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do you think creatures such as flies have a soul, or essence, or do they just exist through instinct and nerve synapse and reaction toward certain stimuli?
 
Bar fight results in one arrest

Altercation at Buddhist Biker Bar & Grill early Saturday morning stems from unwillingness of patrons to leave, leads to hospitalization of three employees

Stephanie Kassab, Cavalier Daily Staff Writer

A fight broke out at the Buddhist Biker Bar & Grill on Elliewood Ave. on the Corner early Saturday morning, leading to the arrest of one student and the hospitalization of three employees.

Third-year College student Daniel Hardesty-Dyck was arrested for assault and battery after hitting Law student Ryan Melogy over the head with a beer bottle.

According to Sgt. David Jones of the Charlottesville Police Department, the fight started at approximately 1:47 a.m as the establishment, located on 20 Elliewood Avenue, was trying to close.

"It looks like the Buddhist Biker Bar was closing down for the night and some people didn't want to leave and a fight broke out," Jones said.

Approximately ten people were involved with the actual fighting, and several people were injured during the fight.

"A couple people got cut on broken glass trying to break up the fight," Jones said, adding that one of the employees separated his shoulder. All three employees were transported to the University Medical Center emergency room.

Students who witnessed the fight but were not involved described a chaotic scene.

"I heard it and I looked over and there was a lot of glass and tables knocked over," fourth-year College student Kristen Boutchyard said. "There were a lot of people yelling. It was kind of shocking; I've never really seen anything like it because it seemed like it came out of no where."

The incident shocked and startled other bar patrons.

"There were probably about seven to eight guys, and it started with about three, I guess," fourth-year College student Lindsey Haines said. "There was one guy that threw another guy across a table and the table completely broke and glass shattered and went everywhere. Everyone was on the ground wrestling and tables were getting knocked everywhere. There was a guy walking away with blood dripping down his face, so that was a little disturbing."

Dean on Call Aaron Laushway said that this incident is not a matter the University takes lightly.

"This is very serious; we do not tolerate assault, particularly by one student to another," Laushway said.

Hardesty-Dyck awaits a court date over the incident.

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=27817&pid=1480




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PICK3 said:
Do they have to be about science?

No, this is Chat, not the Science board. But the multiple rapping, reach-arounds and general threads about being geigh are well over played and have reached beyond the point where they even deserve bandwidth here.




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FISHTALES said:
do you think creatures such as flies have a soul, or essence, or do they just exist through instinct and nerve synapse and reaction toward certain stimuli?

The latter. While this gets into philosophical territory, think of how annoying heaven and hell would be with all those billions of flies that have lived and died throughout the centuries.





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samoth said:
No, this is Chat, not the Science board. But the multiple rapping, reach-arounds and general threads about being geigh are well over played and have reached beyond the point where they even deserve bandwidth here.




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:( your right, but i was having fun, and i could never explore my AAP side like that in the real world
 
samoth said:
No, this is Chat, not the Science board. But the multiple rapping, reach-arounds and general threads about being geigh are well over played and have reached beyond the point where they even deserve bandwidth here.




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seems to be pretty popular subjects that entertained several good bros tonight
 
samoth said:
The latter. While this gets into philosophical territory, think of how annoying heaven and hell would be with all those billions of flies that have lived and died throughout the centuries.





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This relying heavily on the prospect that there actually is a heaven and hell.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
samoth said:
The latter. While this gets into philosophical territory, think of how annoying heaven and hell would be with all those billions of flies that have lived and died throughout the centuries.





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so, at what point does a living thing "obtain" a soul/essence, and at what point does its life have "real" value?
 
What sounds better for the plate resistor on V1 in a Vox AC15, a carbon composition resistor or carbon film?
 
I found this article interesting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/us/24woodpecker.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Rare Woodpecker Sends a Town Running for Its Chain Saws
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 24, 2006

BOILING SPRING LAKES, N.C., Sept. 23 (AP) — Over the past six months, landowners here have been clear-cutting thousands of trees to keep them from becoming homes for the endangered red-cockaded woodpecker.

The chain saws started in February, when the federal Fish and Wildlife Service put Boiling Spring Lakes on notice that rapid development threatened to squeeze out the woodpecker.

The agency issued a map marking 15 active woodpecker “clusters,” and announced it was working on a new one that could potentially designate whole neighborhoods of this town in southeastern North Carolina as protected habitat, subject to more-stringent building restrictions.

Hoping to beat the mapmakers, landowners swarmed City Hall to apply for lot-clearing permits. Treeless land, after all, would not need to be set aside for woodpeckers. Since February, the city has issued 368 logging permits, a vast majority without accompanying building permits.

The results can be seen all over town. Along the roadsides, scattered brown bark is all that is left of pine stands. Mayor Joan Kinney has watched with dismay as waterfront lots across from her home on Big Lake have been stripped down to sandy wasteland.

“It’s ruined the beauty of our city,” Ms. Kinney said. To stop the rash of cutting, city commissioners have proposed a one-year moratorium on lot-clearing permits.

The red-cockaded woodpecker was once abundant in the vast longleaf pine forests that stretched from New Jersey to Florida, but now numbers as few as 15,000. The bird is unusual among North American woodpeckers because it nests exclusively in living trees.

In a quirk of history, human activity has made this town of about 4,100 almost irresistible to the bird.

Long before there was a town, locals carved V-shaped notches in the pines, collecting the sap in buckets to make turpentine. These wounds allowed fungus to infiltrate the tree’s core, making it easier for the woodpecker to excavate its nest hole and probe for the beetles, spiders and wood-boring insects it prefers.

“And, voilà! You have a perfect woodpecker habitat,” said Dan Bell, project director for the Nature Conservancy in nearby Wilmington.

The woodpecker gouges a series of holes around the tree, creating “sap runs” to discourage the egg-gobbling black snake, the bird’s chief enemy. Because it can take up to six years to excavate a single nest hole, the birds fiercely defend their territory, said Susan Miller, a biologist for the Fish and Wildlife Service. “They’re passed from generation to generation, because it’s such a major investment in time to create one cavity,” Ms. Miller said.

Like the woodpeckers, humans are also looking to defend their nest eggs.

Bonner Stiller has been holding on to two wooded half-acre lakefront lots for 23 years. He stripped both lots of longleaf pines before the government could issue its new map.

“They have finally developed a value,” said Mr. Stiller, a Republican member of the state General Assembly. “And then to have that taken away from you?”

Landowners have overreacted, says Pete Benjamin, supervisor of the federal agency’s Raleigh office.

Having a woodpecker tree on a piece of property does not necessarily mean a house cannot be built there, Mr. Benjamin said. A landowner can even get permission to cut down a cavity tree, as long as an alternative habitat can be found.

“For the most part, we’ve found ways to work with most folks,” he said.
 
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