samoth said:Anyone pick up the Slaughter of the Soul reissue yet?
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from zero said:I had Slaughter of the Soul a few years ago, when the only melodeath I had really known was In Flames' Clayman or something. I hated SOTS and got rid of it.
Christ I hate myself.
samoth said:Okay, I hear lotsa people talking about Meshugga, what's up with them? They hit the mainstream? I've seen their CD's at Best Buy.
Last I remember from Meshugga was their early Relapse Records days, like the Corporate Death comp or something... either way, I'm guessing they have changed drastically to be differentiated from bands like Ressurection and Benediction nowadays. I wasn't fond of their style back then, so I kinda disregarded them.
Flah said:They slow it down and groove a lot more than they used to. Chaosphere is one the best albums ever released in metal. Catch-33 is the best thing out this year.
Most talented and technical band going.
samoth said:Damn, they must've done something right to be around this long... I might pick up something newer by them. What label are they on now? Roadrunner?
Flah said:I heard that Opeth was godly that night. Tell us more! I demand it!
from zero said:Nuclear Blast, I believe.
Speaking of awesome things in metal, guess who saw Into Eternity, Nevermore, and Opeth last night?![]()
powerslave said:4006 songs on my iPOD ALL METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flah said:I'm also really poor.
samoth said:LOL, same here. But even so, I've just never gotten into DLing music or anything involving computers. I don't know why, it's very common today. I just have an obsession with wanting to own the CD.
Although the idea of having 4,000 songs in ONE place is neat. Especially with everything programmable, so one can go album-by-album or what have you. I should probably get with the times.
Do you guys pay to DL your music? Like, what was the TOTAL cost in having 4K songs in an Ipod? Or is pirating easy?
UA_Iron said:paying is for suckers.
and I doubt any metal bands label is gonna come after you unless you're really a bonehead about it.
These guys dont make money from the CDs usually either - mainly the touring.

samoth said:LOL, same here. But even so, I've just never gotten into DLing music or anything involving computers. I don't know why, it's very common today. I just have an obsession with wanting to own the CD.
Although the idea of having 4,000 songs in ONE place is neat. Especially with everything programmable, so one can go album-by-album or what have you. I should probably get with the times.
Do you guys pay to DL your music? Like, what was the TOTAL cost in having 4K songs in an Ipod? Or is pirating easy?
Flah said:Seriously, if you're poor and you want music but feel guilty about downloading a lot of stuff, become a reviewer.
I get sent a bunch of stuff. For free. And a lot of sucks. But that's besides the point.
The kicker is, you don't even have to be a good writer to get stuff, you just need to have a wide audience.
samoth said:It's not that I feel guilty or anything, I just like having the real thing... and sound quality seems to be poor often on the DL'ed stuff. At least the one month or so I used Kazaa my frosh year, on '01. I'm sure it's improved. I used to get free or really cheap demo CD's, the ones identical to the official releases but in cardboard sleaves, from the Milwaukee Metal Shop back in the day, but even then I still wanted the CD, lol. Then again, this is coming from s guy who has four different copies of Seventh Son. And no, don't ask why, lol.
POWERSLAVE!! You rule! I actually like going through other metal friends' CD collections and lists of what they got.
UA_Iron said:Nah dude, if you're get a metal radio show on your college station - they always send college stations a ton of stuff.

samoth said:I didn't know you were into black metal, Maj!
I don't think Powerslave's a big black metal fan, more death and power metal.
What era Emperor? I think it's pretty obvious Samoth is an Emperor fanuntil that whole Peccatum incident, ugh...
And Mayhem, same question?... they've remained pioneers of the scene for almost two decades, and the center of the whole '90's BM controversy in Norway. I never got into the newer Grand Declaration sound, but it's still amazing. Deathcrush was their cult classic... and I say this only 'cause I've never been a huge fan of Euronymus, lol.
samoth said:It's not that I feel guilty or anything, I just like having the real thing... and sound quality seems to be poor often on the DL'ed stuff. At least the one month or so I used Kazaa my frosh year, on '01. I'm sure it's improved. I used to get free or really cheap demo CD's, the ones identical to the official releases but in cardboard sleaves, from the Milwaukee Metal Shop back in the day, but even then I still wanted the CD, lol. Then again, this is coming from s guy who has four different copies of Seventh Son. And no, don't ask why, lol.
POWERSLAVE!! You rule! I actually like going through other metal friends' CD collections and lists of what they got.
powerslave said:Maybe the same reason I have three versions of their earlier releases. They are all different. I have the original, the first re-isssue(contained b-sides on a second disc), the second re-issue(enhanced liner notes, cd-rom stuff and when put in order make the Eddie from the first disc).
UA_Iron said:the only blackmetal I really listen to anymore is Immortal. I prefer my vocals to sound like the cookie monster instead of squeezing a rat![]()
Flah said:Prometeus: blah blah is my favorite Emperor album. Can't really get into the other stuff. Peccatum put out a new EP this year and while it's not as bad as the other stuff, it's not good either. Samoth, Faust, and Trym are doing great stuff with Zyklon. Tchort is turning out solid stuff (Blood Red Throne, Green Carnation). Mortiis...is Mortiis...sigh.
Epoch of Unlight is okay. The new twelve minute Arsis song slays it though.
I actually like Chimera more than anything Mayhem has done with the slight exception of maybe De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas.
Oh, and I can't stand Satyricon, haha. More Spiral Architect! Go with the better band guys!

Peccatum's debut is quite possibly one of the worst things I've ever heard. To this day, I've never met anyone that liked it. Some of their later stuff picked up some fans. The new one is worth a look if you're super interested in hearing where they went. It's not very far though.Really? I've never heard many people take the newer Emperor sound over the classic Nightside. My personal favorite was Anthems, the entire album, sound, production just had a flow to it that I thought blended perfectly. And it was such a huge step in a different direction from Nightside. We were all pretty hyped for IX, but it was a general disappointment for most of us. Granted, I really liked it and all, but it was just... too big a step in a different direction. Warriors of Modern Death was one of/the best song on the album, but their style and direction didn't sit well with the old-school BM fans who disliked anything past 3rd gen BM.
I honestly didn't think anyone in the world listened to Piccatum's debut more than once. I thought it was horrible... and lots of people agree with that. To be fair, though, I've heard nothing from the act since.
And LOL @ being polite and mentioning Mortiis. (Umm... so are those ears and nose REALLY real, ie., permanant? Umm....)
Chimera is the only official full-length I never picked up. Heard some, didn't really seem impressive. That's around the same time period we started seeing bootlegged Morbid CD's around, so we were still grabbing all the old stuff.
I'm the only person I know that never liked De Mysteriis. I just never cared for Euronymus's vox in general, but especially on that record. The only thing worse would be Pure Fucking Armegeddon... but I honestly couldn't discern much on that recording anyway, so there may not have even BEEN vocals, lol. (note to all: DON'T buy Pure Fucking Armegeddon. Horrid recording.)
Spiral Architect is like tech near power metal in the vein of Watchtower but with crazy bass lines. I love it.Really? None of their stuff? The last thing I bought from them was the EP before volcano, after Satyr turned into trailer-park trash. We caught them live around that time, and he seriously looked like an idiot. Stained and torn size medium white undershirt and no hair. The music was still good... but a pain to see compared to the Nemesis Divina video's...
I've never heard Spiritual Architech, but it sounds Vintersorgy. lol
Awesome black metal worth a look:majutsu said:my two favorite musics are jazz and metal (making atheist a secret favorite . . . )
I don't like "death metal" crypto/morbid/etc per se.
Don't get some "doom metal", but do like the sludgier side like Eye Hate God.
But so-called "black metal" with the philosophical/spiritual stuff, especially when mixed with thrash type blast beats.
I really like Epoch of Unlight, for example. I loved Arsis' last album, and pimped it all over the place. I hadn't heard the new one, flah, but I'm sure it kicks. I do like the thrashier quality of epoch though. I like god dethroned too, all that kind of stuff. Flah, samoth, ps, anyone that can recommend further black metal i'd like clue me in, as my ears are always open.
I don't listen to black metal but every 1-2 months, but today I woke up on the wrong side of the apocalypse!
At my age, the bands I'm trying to form are jazz bands, as nearing-40 year old black metal artists look goofy. But I listen to black metal on my stereo whenever I brake from studying bebop cuts.
Sleep is pure stoner rock. Dopesmoker is a milestone in the genre. One hour long song. And not like a song made up of many different parts. I mean, it's just one long song, verse/chorus/verse/bridge style. It's gigantic.

majutsu said:But so-called "black metal" with the philosophical/spiritual stuff

Crimson still has very varied parts. I mean, Dopesmoker (which was originally recorded somewhere between 92-96, it was delayed because no one wanted to put it out) is a song in the simplest of senses. There's a verse section, a chorus, and a bridge. That's it. There's not even really a chorus. Essentially there's one riff that evolves (or devolves), some solos, and a section where they strip away the distortion. It's just insanely heavy. Almost trance inducing.Hmm... lol, I wonder if this or Swano's Edge of Sanity CD was released first.
samoth said:Hey Powerslave, just curious if you collect vinyls? (or anyone else here)
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majutsu said:I guess I really me not so much spiritual as in lyrics, as in spiritual as in radiating a tripped-out vibe. That's why I like the Leviathan; it's creepy. I drift to the alternative slice in every genre.

Flah said:Sunn 0))) - Black One (this album is just goddamn evil)
Flah said:Kalmah > CoB
I know, I'm breaking new ground with every post.

Flah said:I kind of worried about Misery Signals. They said they were going to try and make everything...catchier.
Terrible CD of the week: xBishopx. Ugh, if you're going to sound like Until the End, why don't you just go back to Until the End Pete?
Misery Signals announced that vocalist Jesse Zaraska has parted ways with the band. Zaraska was a founding member of the band since 2002 and had done vocals on both the band's debut EP and acclaimed full-length Of Malice And The Magnum Heart which launched the band into the hardcore stratosphere. The band including Kyle Johnson (bass), Ryan Morgan (guitar), Branden Morgan (drums) and Stuart Ross (guitar) will be holding auditions for a new vocalist and those interested are invited to download a track that the band placed on their myspace page without vocals for the song "In Summary Of What I Am" and ask vocalists to add their own vocals and e-mail back to the band. Zaraska has released the following statement to the public "I would like to say thank you to everyone who came to the shows, danced, sang and supported the band throughout the years. Canadian love to Carl, Portland, Rick, Conrad, Dicky, Mike Longhair, MC, Mixon and Smith, The Baines, Undying, xWith Honorx, The Wage girls, DEP, 18V, Premonitions, ForDireLifeSake, ETID, Robbins and Emery, Hoya and Madball, Brandan and Bleeding Through and our bros in ZAO, up the irons." You can check out Zaraska's new project Sleeping Girl, which features former members of Compromise (Zaraska's band before Misery Signals) at www.myspace.com/sleepinggirl. Zaraska says "Musically it is something quite different, lyrically its picks up right where I left off in MS." Misery Signals would like to wish Zaraska well on his new endeavor.
Flah said:And things get worse...
Get Forest of Equilibrium and Endtyme. That's a pretty good over view of both periods. I suggest listening to Forest first for context.Hillmachine said:Dear Flah,
Which Cathedral album should i start with?
Love Hillmachine
Flah said:Get Forest of Equilibrium and Endtyme. That's a pretty good over view of both periods. I suggest listening to Forest first for context.
Flah said:Get Forest of Equilibrium and Endtyme. That's a pretty good over view of both periods. I suggest listening to Forest first for context.
markshark said:anybody check out the new bleeding through yet? its not bad.
mudaq said:who's going to EmperoR reunion shows here in NYC? I wish the damn tickets weren't starting at $50, but I have a feeling it will be so worth it...
Are these dates sold out yet? I hate driving and going to shows (there's usually wave upon wave of soldiers in the douchebag army), but, shit, it is Emperor.mudaq said:who's going to EmperoR reunion shows here in NYC? I wish the damn tickets weren't starting at $50, but I have a feeling it will be so worth it...
powerslave said:It seems to me that In Flames are making a return a heavier sound. At least from the tunes that I heard from the new disc.
powerslave said:It seems to me that In Flames are making a return a heavier sound. At least from the tunes that I heard from the new disc.
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