in response to a homophobic thread

[frorider6]

I am seeing clients today in a t-shirt that says "NIHILIST."

I know your therapy is really a cover for recruiting for the other side. You gays are all alike. I bet you have some sort of quota every month don't you!

 

[musclebrains]

So you think you're gay and you suck dick? Get over it and be hetero like everyone else! *SLAP*

If someone had a problem with being gay, I might, as a paradoxical intervention, prescribe a month of weekends in a straight singles bar. I'm sure that would drive them into happy contentment as a cocksucker.

I have actually done that with overeaters and other people with eating disorders. I won't see them unless they do volunteer work in a soup kitchen. Amazing how their orientation changes when they see the social undergirding of their food problem.

 

[buksoon]

I know your therapy is really a cover for recruiting for the other side. You gays are all alike. I bet you have some sort of quota every month don't you!

They get a toaster and a gift certificate at TGIFridays for every 10 recruits.

 

[musclebrains]

I know your therapy is really a cover for recruiting for the other side. You gays are all alike. I bet you have some sort of quota every month don't you!

I have an insatiable sexual appetite, so quotas are irrelevant. I would exceed any reasonable one.

 

[frorider6]

I have actually done that with overeaters and other people with eating disorders. I won't see them unless they do volunteer work in a soup kitchen. Amazing how their orientation changes when they see the social undergirding of their food problem.

That's pretty ingenious and risky at the same time. But good for you for being a free thinker and a realist.

 

[musclebrains]

They get a toaster and a gift certificate at TGIFridays for every 10 recruits.

Please, no self-respecting gay man would be caught dead in TGIFridays and we don't eat toast. It's fattening.

 

[buksoon]

I have actually done that with overeaters and other people with eating disorders. I won't see them unless they do volunteer work in a soup kitchen. Amazing how their orientation changes when they see the social undergirding of their food problem.

NO DOUBT!! (Sorry, here I go again with the fawning, but...) where is your stuff published? I want to read it, Brains.

 

[musclebrains]

That's pretty ingenious and risky at the same time. But good for you for being a free thinker and a realist.

Most psychological disorder -- I don't mean the psychoses -- has a very heavy cultural basis. I am doing a thing on the so-called Adonis complex in the gay community in a few months. I will be mixing circuit boys on steroids with men from hospices.

 

[buksoon]

That's pretty ingenious and risky at the same time. But good for you for being a free thinker and a realist.

What I think it is is that a lot of sufferers -- and yes, I know aaalll other reasons (self-control, fear of sexual development, etc) -- anyway, a lot romantize wasting away.

They do. Brains, you mentioned Poe in another thread. He said: "Nothing is so poetical a topic as a beautiful girl dying" and that ... I've seen that belief in action.

 

[frorider6]

Please, no self-respecting gay man would be caught dead in TGIFridays and we don't eat toast. It's fattening.

Sooooo gay.

 

[buksoon]

Please, no self-respecting gay man would be caught dead in TGIFridays and we don't eat toast. It's fattening.

I thought you gay men loved the kitsch!

 

[musclebrains]

I thought you gay men loved the kitsch!

I wrote an essay years ago on that for a magazine's Christmas cover. You have to discern between schlock, kitsch and camp. TGIFriday's is definitely schlock.

And yes, I used to have an enormous collection of kitsch, mainly religious. My headboard was a neon crucifix. A mannequin held a star of Bethlem in the corner, etc. Men ran from my bedroom or got instantly on their knees.

 

[manny78]

I'm an hetero white male and proud of it. Anything wrong with that ?

 

[frorider6]

I wrote an essay years ago on that for a magazine's Christmas cover. You have to discern between schlock, kitsch and camp. TGIFriday's is definitely schlock.

And yes, I used to have an enormous collection of kitsch, mainly religious. My headboard was a neon crucifix. A mannequin held a star of Bethlem in the corner, etc. Men ran from my bedroom or got instantly on their knees.

I thought they'd be on their knees IN your bedroom.

 

[buksoon]

I wrote an essay years ago on that for a magazine's Christmas cover. You have to discern between schlock, kitsch and camp. TGIFriday's is definitely schlock.

I had know I idea the classification systerm, the nomenclature... very scientific!

Your pm box is full.

And schlock it may be, but have you tried the Blizzard?

 

[musclebrains]

I thought they'd be on their knees IN your bedroom.

Isn't that what I just said?

I remember one guy said, "This is like having sex in church."

I said: "We can do it in the kitchen, if yoiu want."

He said: "Oh, no, I wasn't complaining at all."

 

[frorider6]

Ah, I misread that "or" for an "and".

Sinner.

 

[buksoon]

Isn't that what I just said?

I remember one guy said, "This is like having sex in church."

I said: "We can do it in the kitchen, if yoiu want."

He said: "Oh, no, I wasn't complaining at all."

Michael Warner talked about his "crush on Jesus" as a child. Jesus really was designed as the androgynous hottie.

Now if that comment doesn't incur more anti-buksoonism here, I don't know what will....

 

[musclebrains]

Michael Warner talked about his "crush on Jesus" as a child. Jesus really was designed as the androgynous hottie.

Now if that comment doesn't incur more anti-buksoonism here, I don't know what will....

There was a Renaissance convention of depicting Christ as a child being masturbated by his mother and St. Anne. As an adult, he was depicted holding his dick or cupping his hand over it. There's an incredible book on thesubject: "The Sexuality of Christ in Renaissance Art and in Modern Oblivion."

If you walk into the El Greco room at the Prado, you are overwhelmed by the erotic subliminality of the paintings of the dying Jesus. Christ is the conflation of thanatos and eros, the successor to Dionysos.

 

[musclebrains]

I had know I idea the classification systerm, the nomenclature... very scientific!

Your pm box is full.

And schlock it may be, but have you tried the Blizzard?

The Italians have written huge amounts on this subject, since their culture is so haunted by popular religious art. And then there's Mussolini's architecture that is most wonderfully kitschy and campy.

 

[buksoon]

If you walk into the El Greco room at the Prado, you are overwhelmed by the erotic subliminality of the paintings of the dying Jesus. Christ is the conflation of thanatos and eros, the successor to Dionysos.

Definitely agree that Christ has been eroticized. Have to go ... just wanted to say: I always thought conflation of thanatos (death instinct) and eros (sex instinct) was Woody Allen. I was wrong?? Hmph.

 

[musclebrains]

I'm an hetero white male and proud of it. Anything wrong with that ?

Looking for a fight?

 

[frorider6]

Looking for a fight?

Kick his ass Seabass!

 

[Test boy]

In need of slap therapy.

Your alcoholic mother ruined all your childhood Christmases by putting paregoric and vodka in the fruitcake? Get over it, loser. *SLAP*

Your daddy gave you a bike and then made you assemble it yourself when you weren't even old enough to pick up a wrench? I'm soooooooo sorry, but, wasn't that, like, 45 fucking years ago? *SLAP*

The holiday season is hard for you because all the parties raise your anxiety? Well, I don't know why anyone would even invite you to a party. *SLAP*

Christmas is bad for you because your uncle dressed as Santa and gave you a candy cane with one hand, while he touched you down there with the other? You must have been a better looking child than adult. *SLAP*

MB...he cracks me up.

 

[strongchick]

Definitely agree that Christ has been eroticized. Have to go ... just wanted to say: I always thought conflation of thanatos (death instinct) and eros (sex instinct) was Woody Allen. I was wrong?? Hmph.

I need 'Greek Psychology for Dummies' for this post!

And when I think of Christ as erotic, I think of that Madonna video, 'Like a Prayer'. Boy, that caused a stir!

 

[Benzi]

everyone should just learn to love