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Why dont you cut and paste it so we dont all have to register. I forgot which name I used to use there anyway
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TxCollegeguy said:
SOUNDS LOGICAL TO ME!!!
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Its gone now...damnit!!!!
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Well sumarize it as best as possible
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Here is a copy and paste directly from the underground board..make your own conclusions..
Date: July 24, 2001 09:34 AM
Author: Shockrock ([email protected])
Subject: Not gonna get involved with this..........
Just thought the message is worth reading. Pretty much saying this death is a hoax, etc. Remember I'm just relaying news even
though I do have an outstanding order.
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:13 AM
Author: Jimmy Fino ([email protected])
Subject: hmmmm
If anybody knows his real name (and I do not), it is fairly simple to check the death records on the newspaper website
(www.jacksonville.com). I personally found one that might be him (auto accident) but not knowing his real name, I
couldnt say for sure.
Jimmy
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:20 AM
Author: Raver, The ([email protected])
Subject: Actually, Jimmy...
The MOTORCYCLE accident was supposed to have happened in GA, and our fine GA Dept. of Public Safety
has no record of such an accident at any speed tracks in GA.
Could have been a dirt bike trail, I suppose, but who knows. 'Slamming into a wall' was mentioned in the thread,
and dirt tracks typically don't have any walls.
Rave
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Date: July 24, 2001 03:26 PM
Author: Mattyboy ([email protected])
Subject: I know his name
But I ain't givin it up. If this is true... I am VERY sad. This was a good guy (maybe is a good guy) I actually owe him
some money.
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Date: July 24, 2001 10:50 PM
Author: tom williams ([email protected])
Subject: To all
My best friend and lifting partner is a lawyer his thoughts are this"if this happened at a non sanction event at such a track
they could keep it under wraps for law suit purposes but not for long and the hospital will automatically have a file"He
feels and I quote"If this happened like he has read t2g is either more powerful than Kennedys or has a lot of money in his
family to keep this hidden"Niether of us have orders from him just posting some info.Thanks~T
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:35 AM
Author: Superior1 ([email protected])
He was supposedly on a ducati. So it would have been Road Atlanta. Or Robling Road in Savannah. Never track was
sanctioned for motorcycle race day that I can see. From the track schedules. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have gotten on
the track. I do have an e-mail that he has suppoedly sent saying he was going racing this weekend for what its worth. I have
checked a few things and I see nothing yet.
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Date: July 24, 2001 12:32 PM
Author: Socio Path
Subject: call either place
Roebling Road (888) 398-RACE Bloomingdale, GA 31302 (912) 748-4205 Fax: (912) 748-8038
Road Atlanta 800-849-RACE
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Date: July 24, 2001 01:22 PM
Author: Superior1 ([email protected])
I called and there were no reported deaths at either track.
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Date: July 24, 2001 02:02 PM
Author: Stroyer ([email protected])
Subject: Tracks...
If there was no sanctioned races that weekend, the only way he could have been on the track is if someone
had leased out the tack for the weekend, which some, pro teams do...but I dont see t2g doing so...
I was just going to suggest someone contact the track & find out...but I see Superior1 already did..
Sup1...did you ask, if there were any open riding them days as well, or if there was any reported deaths.
The original thread said:
"T2G was away for the weekend testing out his bike at a track in GA. Well as much as he loves speed, he
was involved in a fatal accident yesterday and will no longer be a part of the UG or anything. I know many
of you are going to claim you sent money but i was assured by family members that any mail will be
returned and existing orders should be filled by his confidant."
Now this does not state weather it happened at the track or on the the way to or fro the track....but one
would assume at the track based on how the thread was worded.
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Date: July 24, 2001 02:41 PM
Author: Swoldier ([email protected])
I did post because i was asked to on the behalf of his wife. I have also called the tracks and got no information, but i did talk to
Mrs. T2G and was told that due the circumstances of his death and under the advisement of the family lawyer that everything
was to be hush, hush. I also asked why there is no obituary( or that sort of thing and was told that they can be private or public)
Due to the fact that t2g is a source and owes money i do not find it hard to believe that this would be the case for the protection
of his wife and two children. I have not seen the corpse and do not plan to do so, but have never heard his wife so hysterical.
On another note i am not sure where the accident happened, track or street, i just know it happened. I can only stress them so
much at this time
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Date: July 24, 2001 03:28 PM
Author: Fred Durst ([email protected])
"due the circumstances of his death and under the advisement of the family lawyer that everything was to be hush, hush"
What Phuking circumstances of his death? He went fast, he hit a Phuking wall! Why in the hell is that suppost to be kept
"hush,hush"? Is the WALL under investigation for CAPITAL MURDER now? Did the wall JUMP out in front of him?
Did some one (going 130mph as was stated) run and push into the wall?
Jesus it cant be hard to find a motorcycle death if it really happend... there cant be that many per day.
If he is dead then his wife should prove it... other wise she should be held responsible for the money! If he is dead then
why not prove it? Are the FEDS going to put his dead body in prison for steroids? No!
Prove it or he is a scammer in my book!
F.D.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:07 PM
Author: musclestud ([email protected])
Let me get this straight. Immediately upon his death his wifes first calls the lawyer to keep everything hush and the lawyer
jumps on it right away and anyone who knows anything(such as the track) accept this and don't say a word so that they
can protect the steroid dealers family.
Sorry but I don't buy it. This keeps getting fishier and fishier. 1.) The only reason a death would be covered up is if its
under investigation(such as murder) and they don't want the suspect(s) to know what they know). There are tons of drug
dealers caught every day; I have never heard of anyone being able to cover it up; come on give me a break.
2.) If T2G was such a great guy and not a scammer then why would the family be afraid that someone would come after
them. They didn't seem to worry about this the last 2 times T2G disappeared.
Come on guys; if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it IS a duck; don't be so gullible.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:07 PM
Author: C Horse ([email protected])
Subject: Protection of his wife and children?
if he is dead then how will keeping the circumstances of his death "hush, hush" protect his family?
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Date: July 24, 2001 03:53 PM
Author: ShawnRay (Med12nv@SHHHHH.....)
Subject: Welll.......
Anyway, I see it as we are all Phuked in the Poop Shoot! That would be some shit to lie about someones death but its done
just like scamming. I feel for the family if this is real but there is to much pointing in the Bullshitter catagory. No one has got any
proof of it either way apparently except he owes some pretty hefty dues.I have spoken with three guys that are in this mess to
and it blows. I dont wish on anyones death so God bless if he has left us.....(Oh,but you cant lie forvever, the truth will come
out!) S.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:12 PM
Author: draven (+++++@++++)
Hmmmmmm....this whole thing is a mess. If it's true, no way its not going to be 100% known. Cant cover anything up
like that. Too many coincidences--seems like it, but you think after being around a while he would have had a better
story lined up if indeed it is bullshit. If true, condolences go out, but a grieving wife worried about net shit after hubby
dies is a little far fetched. but possible I guess. As above post states truth will surface eventually.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:12 PM
Author: ragnar teknovich ([email protected])
Subject: Regarding the rumor
We are in the process of confirming whether this is for real or a scam.
Until then you won't see anything on the Gade regarding T2G or his "buddy".
Enough said.
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Date: July 24, 2001 07:49 PM
Author: BUFF ([email protected])
damn, i first thought it was genuine, and still KINDA do, but the circumstances do seem very fishy..why would they want it
HUSH HUSH??that makes not much sense to me..im sure the wife knows she isnt going to have 100 guys from the NET after
her, so why keep the details down??i would also think that the family(wife) would know that guys would be APPREIATIVE
enought o WAIT longer on orders IF T2G died..
this whole thing is a mess, and i hope it gets sorted out fast...
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Date: July 24, 2001 09:28 PM
Author: Mike ([email protected])
Subject: Yup
it's true. They went and deleted all threads discussing the T2G sitch over at Gade....IT'S A FRIGGIN CONSPIRACY
MAN!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:25 PM
Author: md ([email protected])
Subject: lol
sounds like a set-up to me. Something's fishy. Maybe he got busted posting a damn tracking number on the internet. ha! sounds
bad. If he did die in an accident, well I would feel real bad for his family. I'll wait and see I s'pose.
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Date: July 24, 2001 09:34 AM
Author: Shockrock ([email protected])
Subject: Not gonna get involved with this..........
Just thought the message is worth reading. Pretty much saying this death is a hoax, etc. Remember I'm just relaying news even
though I do have an outstanding order.
Shock
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:13 AM
Author: Jimmy Fino ([email protected])
Subject: hmmmm
If anybody knows his real name (and I do not), it is fairly simple to check the death records on the newspaper website
(www.jacksonville.com). I personally found one that might be him (auto accident) but not knowing his real name, I
couldnt say for sure.
Jimmy
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:20 AM
Author: Raver, The ([email protected])
Subject: Actually, Jimmy...
The MOTORCYCLE accident was supposed to have happened in GA, and our fine GA Dept. of Public Safety
has no record of such an accident at any speed tracks in GA.
Could have been a dirt bike trail, I suppose, but who knows. 'Slamming into a wall' was mentioned in the thread,
and dirt tracks typically don't have any walls.
Rave
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Date: July 24, 2001 03:26 PM
Author: Mattyboy ([email protected])
Subject: I know his name
But I ain't givin it up. If this is true... I am VERY sad. This was a good guy (maybe is a good guy) I actually owe him
some money.
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Date: July 24, 2001 10:50 PM
Author: tom williams ([email protected])
Subject: To all
My best friend and lifting partner is a lawyer his thoughts are this"if this happened at a non sanction event at such a track
they could keep it under wraps for law suit purposes but not for long and the hospital will automatically have a file"He
feels and I quote"If this happened like he has read t2g is either more powerful than Kennedys or has a lot of money in his
family to keep this hidden"Niether of us have orders from him just posting some info.Thanks~T
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:35 AM
Author: Superior1 ([email protected])
He was supposedly on a ducati. So it would have been Road Atlanta. Or Robling Road in Savannah. Never track was
sanctioned for motorcycle race day that I can see. From the track schedules. But that doesn't mean he couldn't have gotten on
the track. I do have an e-mail that he has suppoedly sent saying he was going racing this weekend for what its worth. I have
checked a few things and I see nothing yet.
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Date: July 24, 2001 12:32 PM
Author: Socio Path
Subject: call either place
Roebling Road (888) 398-RACE Bloomingdale, GA 31302 (912) 748-4205 Fax: (912) 748-8038
Road Atlanta 800-849-RACE
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Date: July 24, 2001 01:22 PM
Author: Superior1 ([email protected])
I called and there were no reported deaths at either track.
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Date: July 24, 2001 02:02 PM
Author: Stroyer ([email protected])
Subject: Tracks...
If there was no sanctioned races that weekend, the only way he could have been on the track is if someone
had leased out the tack for the weekend, which some, pro teams do...but I dont see t2g doing so...
I was just going to suggest someone contact the track & find out...but I see Superior1 already did..
Sup1...did you ask, if there were any open riding them days as well, or if there was any reported deaths.
The original thread said:
"T2G was away for the weekend testing out his bike at a track in GA. Well as much as he loves speed, he
was involved in a fatal accident yesterday and will no longer be a part of the UG or anything. I know many
of you are going to claim you sent money but i was assured by family members that any mail will be
returned and existing orders should be filled by his confidant."
Now this does not state weather it happened at the track or on the the way to or fro the track....but one
would assume at the track based on how the thread was worded.
Stroyer
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Date: July 24, 2001 02:41 PM
Author: Swoldier ([email protected])
I did post because i was asked to on the behalf of his wife. I have also called the tracks and got no information, but i did talk to
Mrs. T2G and was told that due the circumstances of his death and under the advisement of the family lawyer that everything
was to be hush, hush. I also asked why there is no obituary( or that sort of thing and was told that they can be private or public)
Due to the fact that t2g is a source and owes money i do not find it hard to believe that this would be the case for the protection
of his wife and two children. I have not seen the corpse and do not plan to do so, but have never heard his wife so hysterical.
On another note i am not sure where the accident happened, track or street, i just know it happened. I can only stress them so
much at this time
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Date: July 24, 2001 03:28 PM
Author: Fred Durst ([email protected])
"due the circumstances of his death and under the advisement of the family lawyer that everything was to be hush, hush"
What Phuking circumstances of his death? He went fast, he hit a Phuking wall! Why in the hell is that suppost to be kept
"hush,hush"? Is the WALL under investigation for CAPITAL MURDER now? Did the wall JUMP out in front of him?
Did some one (going 130mph as was stated) run and push into the wall?
Jesus it cant be hard to find a motorcycle death if it really happend... there cant be that many per day.
If he is dead then his wife should prove it... other wise she should be held responsible for the money! If he is dead then
why not prove it? Are the FEDS going to put his dead body in prison for steroids? No!
Prove it or he is a scammer in my book!
F.D.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:07 PM
Author: musclestud ([email protected])
Let me get this straight. Immediately upon his death his wifes first calls the lawyer to keep everything hush and the lawyer
jumps on it right away and anyone who knows anything(such as the track) accept this and don't say a word so that they
can protect the steroid dealers family.
Sorry but I don't buy it. This keeps getting fishier and fishier. 1.) The only reason a death would be covered up is if its
under investigation(such as murder) and they don't want the suspect(s) to know what they know). There are tons of drug
dealers caught every day; I have never heard of anyone being able to cover it up; come on give me a break.
2.) If T2G was such a great guy and not a scammer then why would the family be afraid that someone would come after
them. They didn't seem to worry about this the last 2 times T2G disappeared.
Come on guys; if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it IS a duck; don't be so gullible.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:07 PM
Author: C Horse ([email protected])
Subject: Protection of his wife and children?
if he is dead then how will keeping the circumstances of his death "hush, hush" protect his family?
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Date: July 24, 2001 03:53 PM
Author: ShawnRay (Med12nv@SHHHHH.....)
Subject: Welll.......
Anyway, I see it as we are all Phuked in the Poop Shoot! That would be some shit to lie about someones death but its done
just like scamming. I feel for the family if this is real but there is to much pointing in the Bullshitter catagory. No one has got any
proof of it either way apparently except he owes some pretty hefty dues.I have spoken with three guys that are in this mess to
and it blows. I dont wish on anyones death so God bless if he has left us.....(Oh,but you cant lie forvever, the truth will come
out!) S.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:12 PM
Author: draven (+++++@++++)
Hmmmmmm....this whole thing is a mess. If it's true, no way its not going to be 100% known. Cant cover anything up
like that. Too many coincidences--seems like it, but you think after being around a while he would have had a better
story lined up if indeed it is bullshit. If true, condolences go out, but a grieving wife worried about net shit after hubby
dies is a little far fetched. but possible I guess. As above post states truth will surface eventually.
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Date: July 24, 2001 04:12 PM
Author: ragnar teknovich ([email protected])
Subject: Regarding the rumor
We are in the process of confirming whether this is for real or a scam.
Until then you won't see anything on the Gade regarding T2G or his "buddy".
Enough said.
-Ragnar
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Date: July 24, 2001 07:49 PM
Author: BUFF ([email protected])
damn, i first thought it was genuine, and still KINDA do, but the circumstances do seem very fishy..why would they want it
HUSH HUSH??that makes not much sense to me..im sure the wife knows she isnt going to have 100 guys from the NET after
her, so why keep the details down??i would also think that the family(wife) would know that guys would be APPREIATIVE
enought o WAIT longer on orders IF T2G died..
this whole thing is a mess, and i hope it gets sorted out fast...
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Date: July 24, 2001 09:28 PM
Author: Mike ([email protected])
Subject: Yup
it's true. They went and deleted all threads discussing the T2G sitch over at Gade....IT'S A FRIGGIN CONSPIRACY
MAN!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: July 24, 2001 11:25 PM
Author: md ([email protected])
Subject: lol
sounds like a set-up to me. Something's fishy. Maybe he got busted posting a damn tracking number on the internet. ha! sounds
bad. If he did die in an accident, well I would feel real bad for his family. I'll wait and see I s'pose.
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sounds fishy indeed but since that doesn't pertain to me at least not that I know of I'll keep my fingers crossed everything works out well for all those concerned and or rest in peace to the person it involves the most
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Just so everyone knows also..this does not pertain to me either..... I just wanted the other bro's who may be involved with the dude to know..
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