In need of Cycle feedback

[aluv4speed]

I am 5'10", 170 about 11%BF been training 5 years but very consistantly for the last 2. I am looking to be at 180 when all said and done after PCT. I have done 2, 3 week cycles of M1T when it was legal. I responded farily well to those. I will take in enough calories and protien for sure and get good rest.

Test E, 500 wk, 1-10 or 12
deca, 400 wk, 1-10
dbol, 30 mg ED spread out 1-4 ...maybe if $ are there.

Do you know how long a 20 ml bottle would last? deca and test? I just wanna make sure I am getting enough. I really would like to do 12 of test.
Should I front load the test?
Is it really nessicary to run nolva on cycle?
I can shoot 250 test and 200 deca in one shot an be safe right?
Do you think the Dbol is needed or will help with overall gains?
I am looking for a good PCT setup.

any suggestions or other feedback would be great.

 

[25homes]

Just have novla on hand bro, no frontload and run the dbal some how.(get money)
You can shoot it all in one pin...sounds like you have 20ml deca 200 and 20ml test 250
In that case you can run deca at 400mg 10 weeks and test 500mg 10 weeks..PCT
clomid and nolva...first 10 days 100mg clomid and 20mg nolva ed...next 10 days 50mg clomid and 10mg nolva

 

[drrman]

how long it last depends on the strength per milligram, as for your cycle, that was almost exactly like my first cycle, and i put on over 30lbs, so i say you will go way over your expected 10lbs mark....I like the cycle bro. If for instance yoru deca is 200mg per cc, 20ml will be exactly 10 weeks. and just take the nolvadex if you start getting symptoms of gyno, have some arimidex on hand also, i personally would take arimidex all the way through it to keep off the bloat. and no need to frontload the test either.....good luck

 

[immortalis]

These two guys have ya covered pretty good.

It depends on what the mgs per ML are and what type of frequency you are going to be goin on, as to how long it will last.

You dont need to front-load the test.

Its not neccesary to run nolva while on cycle, however I recommend it. Preventative measures are good. You definitely need to have it onhand just incase.

IYou can shoot both in 1 shot. Infact that is what I suggest when mixing two types of gear. As a matter of fact, I am gonna give myself a nice lil stick of Test/Deca when I get to the house!

Dbol is really not ever needed. People like to use it for the first 4 weeks or so during a cycle because it kicks in so fast. If people are impatient and cant wait that 5th, 6th week to start feeling the affects from other gear, they like to use Dbol on the frontend to see some gains early. Most are water weight, and i really dont like to use it because you dont retain very much.
I am looking for a good PCT setup.


Sounds like you, unlike most new posters that come around, actually have a solid training background behind you and are at least a little informed about diet and rest. *golf clap* to you!

 

[big49ersfan]

from expericnce bro dont run deca/ test and dbol for afirst cycle. i not syaing this because of the sides or gains or cost even. but this is what i ran for my first cycle and i did well no bettter tho than other first timers with a nailed diet and training schedule. but if means that you will not know how you respond to eat fo the drugs which is aproblem when trying to put future cycles together.

if you want to a 1100mg of gear a week which is what you are proposing then up the test dosage (im not reocmmending it just saying for a first timer then run one ijectable and kickstart it)

IMO run

weeks 1-12 test e @ 500mg ew
weeks 1-6 35mg bdol (i dropped the bdol at week 4 but then felt the test e/ deca kic in on week 6 so that is y i am sayting runt he dbols for 6 weeks)

pct

clo day 1: 150mg day 2-21: 50mg
nolva day 1 60mg day 2-11: 40mg and day 12-21 20mg

have an extra box of nolva on hand in case gyno rears its ugly face.
run adex @ 0.5mg ed to avois bloat if you want to but the water will go in pct so isnt much of an issue on cycle unless it a) effects you bp b) you dont want to blow up.

 

[aluv4speed]

Thanks, I just wanted to see if the cycle looked ok, I have done quite a bit of searching. I just want my PCT to be in tack. I also will prob run some no explode, cell mass stack to help maintain post cycle. any other feedback?

 

[aluv4speed]

So even though I did M1T 2 times. I still would be considerd a first timer. I thought M1T is now reviewd a pretty potent? Not arguing just questioning.

 

[big49ersfan]

even if it is considered a roid you havent run any of bdol/deca or test correct

therefore if you run all 3 you will not know what is doing what!! which is very important IMO

so run the bdol and kickstart as it takes a while for the test e to get rolling and once the test is rolling you will know it and will feel great adding on the pounds in weight and increase in strength as long as you eat right.

what you proposed althought has been brandished about as a newbie stack and y i did for my first time there were issues with it and so i feel 1 drug with a kickstart is much better even if you run an oral only stakc a couple of times.

like i said if you feel you need more than 500mg of tets a week dont add 400mg of deca add more test. but i persoanlly dont think you will need more than 500mg but i am not you

 

[25homes]

Bro M1T does shit compared to a real cycle...I like your cycle bro prepare to blow up...you could save the deca if you wanted bro...test and dbal and you are going to gain 30lbs

 

[Mr.X]

I am 5'10", 170 about 11%BF been training 5 years but very consistantly for the last 2. I am looking to be at 180 when all said and done after PCT. I have done 2, 3 week cycles of M1T when it was legal. I responded farily well to those. I will take in enough calories and protien for sure and get good rest.

Test E, 500 wk, 1-10 or 12
deca, 400 wk, 1-10
dbol, 30 mg ED spread out 1-4 ...maybe if $ are there.

Do you know how long a 20 ml bottle would last? deca and test? I just wanna make sure I am getting enough. I really would like to do 12 of test.
Should I front load the test?
Is it really nessicary to run nolva on cycle?
I can shoot 250 test and 200 deca in one shot an be safe right?
Do you think the Dbol is needed or will help with overall gains?
I am looking for a good PCT setup.

any suggestions or other feedback would be great.

Scrap the whole cycle, new cycle:
Test E, 500 wk, 1-10
Arimidex 1mg ED , wk 1-10

PCT