IMPORTANT...need help with a question about going from abombs to dbols....

[X Man]

okay heres my cycle

week1-4abombs 50mgs ed
week 1-12 test e 600mgs ew
week 4-12 test prop/tren 50mgs of each ed
week6-12 winny 50mgs ed

how bad would it be for my body, if i just this once ran the abombs for 4 weeks then switched over to dbols for the last 2, then went into the winny...

any point in running the dbols for 2 maybe 3 weeks on top of the abombs...?


i would def not make a habit of this obviously and i may not even do it...im just thinking about bulking up to 230 then cutting before i wanted to reach 225 then cut...

the diet is in check --with the help of mr x. i got everything down pretty perfectly.... and the bloat is minimal.

just dont know if i got all the gains im going to make from running the bulking orals.. or if dbols would spark things up a little..

i mean ive heard of guys running orals for 6-7 weeks to kickstart..combining the time on the two i wouldnt be going over 7 weeks...

whut do u guys think?

 

[Tux]

If you decide to do it, make sure to get bloodwork done every 3-4 weeks or so to check liver values. I've run dbol and abombs together at 100mg/day total with normal liver enzymes, I've run tbol at 60mg/day for 8 weeks with normal levels, and I've run 4 week segments of dbol, tbol, and winny with only a week or two off orals between them, and still my liver values stayed within normal range. I used ALA, tylers, policosanol, and niacin, and got bloodwork done, but as far as my liver was concerned it was fine. I would suggest starting with the aboms and ending with the winny, but no need for the dbol for 2 weeks in the middle. Also, why the prop weeks 4-12? Why not add the prop weeks 1-4 as an additional jumpstart as you have test enth the whole 12 weeks?

 

[BigCracker]

If you decide to do it, make sure to get bloodwork done every 3-4 weeks or so to check liver values. I've run dbol and abombs together at 100mg/day total with normal liver enzymes, I've run tbol at 60mg/day for 8 weeks with normal levels, and I've run 4 week segments of dbol, tbol, and winny with only a week or two off orals between them, and still my liver values stayed within normal range. I used ALA, tylers, policosanol, and niacin, and got bloodwork done, but as far as my liver was concerned it was fine. I would suggest starting with the aboms and ending with the winny, but no need for the dbol for 2 weeks in the middle. Also, why the prop weeks 4-12? Why not add the prop weeks 1-4 as an additional jumpstart as you have test enth the whole 12 weeks?

What he said.

 

[X Man]

If you decide to do it, make sure to get bloodwork done every 3-4 weeks or so to check liver values. I've run dbol and abombs together at 100mg/day total with normal liver enzymes, I've run tbol at 60mg/day for 8 weeks with normal levels, and I've run 4 week segments of dbol, tbol, and winny with only a week or two off orals between them, and still my liver values stayed within normal range. I used ALA, tylers, policosanol, and niacin, and got bloodwork done, but as far as my liver was concerned it was fine. I would suggest starting with the aboms and ending with the winny, but no need for the dbol for 2 weeks in the middle. Also, why the prop weeks 4-12? Why not add the prop weeks 1-4 as an additional jumpstart as you have test enth the whole 12 weeks?

constraint wise i only could get 600mgs of enth...if i wanted toup the test ne higher prop was the only other test i could use..it made sense if i was injecting everyday..i.e. because of the tren to use prop as its compliment...its kind of like my own sust using the enth and the prop together... the abombs were DEF enough of a jumpstart i gained 15 pounds in 3 weeks

another question though tux, say i run the dbols for three weeks...and im at 221 now, think i could get up to 230? then start cutting with winny clen or will the tren just take me up there and the dbol isnt really neccesary...?


just trying to feel some things out that all.. i find this a very interesting complex science

 

[Ulter]

No there is no reason to add the dbol for 2 weeks to the drol. You'll just add water. You don't list it but I will assume you're going to use an AI for this like AIFM or Aromasin. ESPECIALLY if you decide to go ahead and add that dbol to the drol.
Just looking at it the way it's written, you should do very well with that.
7 weeks is not too long for orals. I ran dbol 14 months once and my liver tests were fine during it. You have to use Tyler, Glucorell R, and now Sesapure to handle that.

 

[X Man]

No there is no reason to add the dbol for 2 weeks to the drol. You'll just add water. You don't list it but I will assume you're going to use an AI for this like AIFM or Aromasin. ESPECIALLY if you decide to go ahead and add that dbol to the drol.
Just looking at it the way it's written, you should do very well with that.
7 weeks is not too long for orals. I ran dbol 14 months once and my liver tests were fine during it. You have to use Tyler, Glucorell R, and now Sesapure to handle that.

using aifm and im gunna start with some glucerol

 

[big_boy_1]

okay heres my cycle

week1-4abombs 50mgs ed
week 1-12 test e 600mgs ew
week 4-12 test prop/tren 50mgs of each ed
week6-12 winny 50mgs ed

Why not:

a bombs wk 1-4
test prop wk 1-2
test e, tren wk 2-12
zero winny (its as harsh as dbol on the liver, being a weaker anabolic).
no orals wk 5-6
dbol wk 7-10
of course some ancillaries