I'm new and any advise at all would be helpful!

[babbabuee]

dj, listen to the guys that are telling you to steer clear of juice. not saying forever, but you need more time bro. more time to learn about proper diet/lifting. I've done a handful of cycles and man I still have stuff to learn. it was such a waste of time to take a bunch of gear when you don't know about eating. and for me, I ended 3 of my cycles with injuries and lost my gains. now I've been out for 8 months with a herniated disk in my back(getting the operation soon) and I can't wait to lift naturally for a year just to get the diet back in check and also to work out a good routine.

take your time bro, don't rush it.

 

[Djicy]

Superdawgee and babbauee very good advice thank you. See thats why I came on here to get advice like this because without it I would have rushed into taking the first thing i could get my hands on.


Superdawgee you say to post sample diet and training. My diet consists of unlfavored oatmeal and yogurt breakfast, 4 peanut butter sandwhiches and prtein drink lunch, and dinner try to eat turkey chicken or fish. This isn't everyay but I try as hard as I can to follow that diet. Training goes like this

Monday- Chest 5 sets benches, 4 set incline bench, 4 set decline bench, 4 sets fleys, 4 sets cable pullovers, 4 sets dumbell incline, 4 sets flye machine.

Tuesday- Legs, 5 sets Squats, 4 sets lunges, 4 sets deadlifts, 4 sets lying curls

Wednesday- Back 5 sets pullups, 4 sets machine lat pulldowns, 4 sets bent over barebaell rows, 4 sets dumbell rows, 4 sets seated rows

Thursday- Shoulders 5 sets behind head press, 4 sets shrugs, 4 sets machine (forget the name) 4 sets seated dumbell raises, 4 sets machine

Friday- Legs 6 sets leg extensions, 4 sets heavy squats, 4 sets seated leg machine

Saturday Biceps, Triceps- 5 standing barebell curls, 4 sets preacher curls, 4 sets alternating barebell curls, 4 sets hammer curls, Triceps- 5 sets rope pulldown, 4 sets machine pushdown, 4 sets lying down extensions, 4 sets bench dips

I do Cardio 5 days a week also 15 minutes treadmill 10 minutes bike. Abs 4 days a week.

 

[SuperDawgy]

Not bashing you bro, but your diet goes to prove that you have alot of learning ahead of you.

 

[Djicy]

Not bashing you bro, but your diet goes to prove that you have alot of learning ahead of you.

Could you explain yourself? and offer any help you could plz?

 

[NoWork]

i have went from 155 to 165 in 2 weeks- all muscle- i only have about 4% body fat.

All muscle...4%BF...I don't think so.

 

[babbabuee]

dj,
what he means is that your diet leaves a lot to be desired. you need to count calories/fat/protein/carb intake for a while to see what you're taking in. You need to read a lot of articles on how your body processes nutrients. But more or less a good strict diet consists of protein from sources like egg whites, lean meats, meal replacement drinks, etc.. Carbs should be low glycemic(sp?) oatmeal, brown rice, whole wheat, etc... except after a work out when you can take faster burning carbs and protein. you see what I'm getting to. there's a lot to know and what I just put up is from some average joe body builder that reads a lot of magazines. I have no professional experience so take what I said with a grain of salt. there are a lot of guys on here that know a lot more.
continue to read and learn about proper lifting techniques. I'd be willing to bet money that you are one of those guys that his heaving up too much weight and either bounching the bar off your chest or squating down all of 6 inches instead of using good form. no offense, I just see it all the time. if you want to take any supplements, I'd recommend creatine, multi vitamins, protein shakes. good luck bro.

 

[Djicy]

dj,
what he means is that your diet leaves a lot to be desired. you need to count calories/fat/protein/carb intake for a while to see what you're taking in. You need to read a lot of articles on how your body processes nutrients. But more or less a good strict diet consists of protein from sources like egg whites, lean meats, meal replacement drinks, etc.. Carbs should be low glycemic(sp?) oatmeal, brown rice, whole wheat, etc... except after a work out when you can take faster burning carbs and protein. you see what I'm getting to. there's a lot to know and what I just put up is from some average joe body builder that reads a lot of magazines. I have no professional experience so take what I said with a grain of salt. there are a lot of guys on here that know a lot more.
continue to read and learn about proper lifting techniques. I'd be willing to bet money that you are one of those guys that his heaving up too much weight and either bounching the bar off your chest or squating down all of 6 inches instead of using good form. no offense, I just see it all the time. if you want to take any supplements, I'd recommend creatine, multi vitamins, protein shakes. good luck bro.

I was that guy but I got a personal trainer so I could learn proper techinque. I eat what magazines say too so I'll have to look on here for some advice thnx for taking the time to answer me I really appreciate any help people give me!

 

[jbradley2093]

I don't understand bashing the guy when he comes here for help. The way I see it, if he took the time to find EF and sign up and ask the question, he is probably going to hit the juice with or without our help. I would rather advise against it, but give him some help if he is going to do it anyway.

Read around the recent posts. THere is another guy with your similiar situation that I posted a 1st cycle for him. You should wait until you have a couple years of good training and diet under your belt, but if you are going to do it anyway that is the cycle I recommend.

 

[reps4me]

Superdawgee and babbauee very good advice thank you. See thats why I came on here to get advice like this because without it I would have rushed into taking the first thing i could get my hands on.


Superdawgee you say to post sample diet and training. My diet consists of unlfavored oatmeal and yogurt breakfast, 4 peanut butter sandwhiches and prtein drink lunch, and dinner try to eat turkey chicken or fish. This isn't everyay but I try as hard as I can to follow that diet. Training goes like this

Monday- Chest 5 sets benches, 4 set incline bench, 4 set decline bench, 4 sets fleys, 4 sets cable pullovers, 4 sets dumbell incline, 4 sets flye machine.

Tuesday- Legs, 5 sets Squats, 4 sets lunges, 4 sets deadlifts, 4 sets lying curls

Wednesday- Back 5 sets pullups, 4 sets machine lat pulldowns, 4 sets bent over barebaell rows, 4 sets dumbell rows, 4 sets seated rows

Thursday- Shoulders 5 sets behind head press, 4 sets shrugs, 4 sets machine (forget the name) 4 sets seated dumbell raises, 4 sets machine

Friday- Legs 6 sets leg extensions, 4 sets heavy squats, 4 sets seated leg machine

Saturday Biceps, Triceps- 5 standing barebell curls, 4 sets preacher curls, 4 sets alternating barebell curls, 4 sets hammer curls, Triceps- 5 sets rope pulldown, 4 sets machine pushdown, 4 sets lying down extensions, 4 sets bench dips

I do Cardio 5 days a week also 15 minutes treadmill 10 minutes bike. Abs 4 days a week.

Bro I am sorry but 29 sets for chest is overkill! Specially if you are new to the game. 10 to 12 sets would suffice for major bodyparts and 8- 10 sets for smaller just a little advice and i would hope your personal trainer would have told you that bro. Good luck lata reps

 

[SuperDawgy]

I don't understand bashing the guy when he comes here for help. The way I see it, if he took the time to find EF and sign up and ask the question, he is probably going to hit the juice with or without our help. I would rather advise against it, but give him some help if he is going to do it anyway.

Read around the recent posts. THere is another guy with your similiar situation that I posted a 1st cycle for him. You should wait until you have a couple years of good training and diet under your belt, but if you are going to do it anyway that is the cycle I recommend.

I don't think anything that has been said should be considered "bashing". He asked a legitimate question and has gotten legitimate feedback. After reviewing his training and diet, i would definately say that he has alot to learn before he even considers using even a small cycle. I'll also go a far as saying that if you took a look at what he is currently eating and still recommend a cycle for him, you have either no compassion for your fellow man or have little to no experience with steroids.