I'm I wrong?

[luigisacs]

Am I wrong to think that those who pay for personal trainers are getting completely ripped off? I totally think that the PT's (well the ones I see) are completely taking advantage of the fact that the trainee's have no idea what they are doing. Instead of having 300lb Mary on a treadmill to burn off the last 23 years of living like a pig, they have them doing one-leg dumbell overhead presses on a balance board. Which, by the way, they can't do because the trainee hasn't lifted a muscle in, oh I don't know , ever!!!!

My opinion is that the PT's make these people do all these stupid things because if they had them do the normal stuff (squats, presses, etc) then the trainee would just do it on their own and not pay for the PT anymore.

Ok, sorry for the rant, but I hate it when people get dicked over.

 

[Protobuilder]

Anyone who pays someone to help them w/ something they themselves know nothing about, get screwed. Car salesmen will rip you a new one if you're clueless. So will the guy selling you a Big Screen TV. Or a House. Or a lawn mowing service. Etc. If you know nothing about fitness, a Personal Trainer will sell you a bill of goods designed to keep you coming back. Common sense advice: eat less and move more is good for about one paying visit. Then they don't come back. But design them a 'state of teh art, cutting edge" training program that only THEY can tweak weekly, then you keep coming back. Before you figure out it sucks, you quit anyway b/c you're lazy. In the meantime, the PT collected money from you for 6 months or so.

 

[thesuaveone]

Am I wrong to think that those who pay for personal trainers are getting completely ripped off?

In many cases, yes, you are wrong.

 

[Sigbjørn]

In many cases, he's completly right too though.

 

[Kabeetz]

I think its important to confirm certification with the right agency, check references..and see what some of his clients look like.. if they made major gains they'll have pics to prove it. You should do your homework before spending your hard earned dough.

 

[al420]

I pay a trainers over 250 a month. Both of them just competed at the Arnolds - so this blanket statement fails IMO.

Personal Trainers at commercial gyms are hit and miss - often times the ones that look good have great genetics or take loads of gear, and the others...well, one would wonder if they train themselfs.

 

[Tweakle]

I have never in all my time in a gym met or seen a PT that I would listen to. The more impressively developed ones seem to actually be the worst for putting their tiny clients through foo-foo and never doing the basics.

there are some online trainers worth the money for sure.

 

[BiggT]

Al, that's a coach brother, not a PT...they aren't even on the same planet.

Coaching for a sport is different, and a lifelong asset

Actually, most ''trainers'' and ''nutritional'' advisors of Pro Bodybuilders are nothing but drug gurus and biochem experts, lol, seriously, after a couple years if you don't know how to lift weights and train yourself and prepare a friggen meal then you should pack it in , it's not magic. I don't understand people going to a gym PT for more than a couple months, unless ya just want somebody to talk to, lol....I don't understand how it is difficult to do a skullcrusher or a cable pressdown, or why you need somebody to expound on the proper way to do a side fucking lateral, lol. ....I guess some people like the interaction, and among the wealthy CEO-types it is ''in'' to have a PT.....I guess they are good for those with zero motivation too.

PTs of the general public are in a rough position though.....they cannot control 300lb Mary when her husband, 350 pound Bob picks her up after his cardio kickboxing class and they hit the Chinese buffet and even out-eat me.

 

[thesuaveone]

I have never in all my time in a gym met or seen a PT that I would listen to. The more impressively developed ones seem to actually be the worst for putting their tiny clients through foo-foo and never doing the basics.

there are some online trainers worth the money for sure.

Charles Glass?

 

[BiggT]

I'm not so convinced that PT's who work with Pro BB's are giving them training tips so much as they are giving them drug tips and synthol instructions and precontest drug/nutrition/getting cut and dry tips, ya know?? I just don't think some bull crap like rotating the wrists in on cable scoops is what brought someone's chest up to snuff as much as finding the right drug concoction to get them dialed in for the stage.

Again, I have never been intimately involved with BB....it's just a guess I always had.

 

[perp69]

Maybe. Maybe not. If that is what it takes to get that person motivated then I guess it is good. I would hope that 300lb fat pig case they are focusing a lot of time on cardio and not just weight lifting.

Perp

 

[youngguns]

I would have paid someone 500$ for the knowledge I have.

 

[Rabid_Goose]

Well, the small hometown gym I goto the PT training comes from the Owner with membership fee. He will personally give you a super personalized program..

Which inclues 70 year old 90 pound Betty Sue doing Peck Deckz, Someone on his staff telling me going below parallel is bad for my knees and he does his parallel and in the smith like the owner said to be safer on the knees.

Now, I can see having a 300 pound male that is in his 20's or 30's looking to retain muscle, even older, and women around thet age range and have them do really hard weight training. But 55 year old 300 pound Betty Sue doing Peck Deckz, and then she goes for a rousing set at Tricep Push downs.

He has so much crap that even I know wrong and I barley know what the hell is going on. He bought a bunch of new equipment and my wife asked to see where the new Hyper Bench was at. He took her in the room and demonstrated how to do it, then she demonstrated how to do it properly. How do you f**k up a Hyper?

I figured ya'all might have got a lil chuckle out of some of it, I could type 2000 page essay on all the crap he does wrong. I ain't a guru or anything but wow.

 

[silver_shadow]

Well, the small hometown gym I goto the PT training comes from the Owner with membership fee. He will personally give you a super personalized program..

Which inclues 70 year old 90 pound Betty Sue doing Peck Deckz, Someone on his staff telling me going below parallel is bad for my knees and he does his parallel and in the smith like the owner said to be safer on the knees.

Now, I can see having a 300 pound male that is in his 20's or 30's looking to retain muscle, even older, and women around thet age range and have them do really hard weight training. But 55 year old 300 pound Betty Sue doing Peck Deckz, and then she goes for a rousing set at Tricep Push downs.

He has so much crap that even I know wrong and I barley know what the hell is going on. He bought a bunch of new equipment and my wife asked to see where the new Hyper Bench was at. He took her in the room and demonstrated how to do it, then she demonstrated how to do it properly. How do you f**k up a Hyper?

I figured ya'all might have got a lil chuckle out of some of it, I could type 2000 page essay on all the crap he does wrong. I ain't a guru or anything but wow.

lol do you go to the same gym as i do!?

the other day i saw the owner teaching this skinny guy deads. everything was ok except he that didn't deweight the bar... but that's ok considering he had on 2 dimes!

 

[al420]

lol do you go to the same gym as i do!?

the other day i saw the owner teaching this skinny guy deads. everything was ok except he that didn't deweight the bar... but that's ok considering he had on 2 dimes!

Don' get mad when you see someone doing your max for reps SS...it happens. Not to me, but to you it seems.

 

[silver_shadow]

that's more than my max...

 

[al420]

I know that - you need to be taking more creatine bro, and stop drinking the winny

 

[silver_shadow]

bah! i need some Amplify Super 1000!

 

[redguru]

Fuggin balance boards are all the rage at my gym too, the PT's have 300 lb Mary and 80lb youngguns doing the same balance board body weight squats. Then they run them to the Smith Machine for the feet forward, 4" ass drop Smith squat with a nickel on each end. I get the same advice from one of the "trainees" all the time. "You shouldn't go below parallel on your squats because you risk injury, also why don't you use a pad?" I just grunt and turn away. His PT can't even squat 2 plates for reps so why is his trainee attempting to give me advice?

 

[silver_shadow]

Fuggin balance boards are all the rage at my gym too, the PT's have 300 lb Mary and 80lb youngguns doing the same balance board body weight squats. Then they run them to the Smith Machine for the feet forward, 4" ass drop Smith squat with a nickel on each end. I get the same advice from one of the "trainees" all the time. "You shouldn't go below parallel on your squats because you risk injury, also why don't you use a pad?" I just grunt and turn away. His PT can't even squat 2 plates for reps so why is his trainee attempting to give me advice?

because your fat from all those heavy squats!

 

[redguru]

because your fat from all those heavy squats!

LOL, I'm fat from poor diet. I doubt squatting heavy causes me to retain fat. If so, guess I'll stay a fat man, but a strong, fat man.

 

[redguru]

BTW, what is that hokey pokey thing they got the newbs doing on the 45° leg press? Do they call that exercise ankle warmers?

 

[Jimbo15]

You dont get fat from heavey squats, you burn a rediculous amount of cals. As for personal trainers, I'd say it depends on how much you are willing to do your own research and how much disposable income you have. I wouldn't bother with it because I know what i'm doing for the most part. The people who i see using their whole body to do a curl however, could use a PT to show them proper form and technique. These guys are more likely to injure themselves than anything. As for mary, tredmill with a twinkie in front of it, thats all the PT she's gonna need for a while.

 

[silver_shadow]

lol the squats thing is a joke on this forum... same as 5x5 makes you fat!

 

[JohnRobHolmes]

Ahhhhh, I missed this place!

Im gonna go do some tricep kickbacks and balance board squats while holding a ball above my head. I dont want to get fat.

 

[Rabid_Goose]

lol do you go to the same gym as i do!?

the other day i saw the owner teaching this skinny guy deads. everything was ok except he that didn't deweight the bar... but that's ok considering he had on 2 dimes!

I hope to God but two times you don't mean two plates of 10 on each side. I know everyone starts somewhere on their and I have no room to run my mouth on Squats or a Press but Dead Lifting? I was lifting trap bars for a few weeks and then gave a Dead Lift with a barbell a go and maxed out on 315.

By the way, he has his employee on a progam that involes Dead Lifting in the Smith Machine which I don't get. Maybe I'm just too new to this. Maybe I should just give in and welcome our new Smith Machine OverLords.