IGF Goal ?

[ricorico]

the pamphlet in Igtropin give directions for usage of their product and recommends using insulin with your morning dose of Igf to increase the half life (not active life) of your igf, and then another injection by itself in the evening. THis is what ive read from the guys at GenSci, i dunno bro....and i was saying "half life", not active life.....so after 6 hours only "half" of the compound is active, and another 6 hours later half of that, and so on.....and for some reason the ppl at GenSci (and other knowlegeable ppl ive talked to) say insulin increases that half life, how it does it? i have no fuckin clue.....but enough very very very smart and expierenced ppl have told me this, so im kinda inclined to belive it., i wish i was able to dig up some proof on how it actually does, but havent found shit as of yet

 

[Kachunga]

Can you forward me this info? Could you not see my concern with constantly injecting insulin to preserve the "half life" of your igf-1? I was referring to insulin when I was talking about active life.
So you are saying at 9am I inject 100 mcgs. At 3 pm I only have 50mcgs still doing its job. And insulin increases this half life so its more than 50 but less than 100? How exactly do you think insulin accomplishes this?
Bro I am sure this isnt your first rodeo, it's definately not mine. I have used 9 mg the past year w/o insulin and have gotten exactly the gains it is supposed to provide. I too have talked with alot of knowledgeable people, pro's who have been using this stuff for the past 5 years. No one has said' bro make sure you use your slin with it to increase it's half life". So please, find me this info so I can take a look at it. I promise I did not fabricate that link I posted. It was from GenSci, from their Igtropin link, and it it it said a 26-30 hr half life. Based on how IGF-1 has worked for me and dozens of other I know, I am inclined to believe that rather than at 18 hours post injection I have only 12.5 mcgs of IGF-1 doing its job.

 

[Shinobi]

Rico and Kachunga: do u inject IGF intra muscular or sub-q?

 

[ricorico]

to shinobi- ive done both

...i dont know how insulin increases its life bro, all i was writing is what i read out of the Igtropin directional/info pamphlet. And i have also heard from others that igf has a 6 hour half life. And ive never taken insulin with my igf either, and ive gotten sick results before, but that doesnt mean they wouldnt of been even better with the slin

 

[Kachunga]

Rico and Kachunga: do u inject IGF intra muscular or sub-q?

I have done both as well, sub q tends to leave a bruise on me. I feel that IM is the way to go.
Well Rico, if its working for you, leave it be. And if you want to try it with the insulin, let me know how it works for you. I was actually using both together in September when one of the guru's asked me why the hell I was doing that.

 

[Shinobi]

I have done both as well, sub q tends to leave a bruise on me...

bruise? you mean welts?

 

[Kachunga]

bruise? you mean welts?

No a quarter sized bruise. Black/blue that was there for 3 days

 

[Kachunga]

Holy shit, the link I posted is working. BUT if it doesnt work for you, I copied and pasted the info for you.
"the most effective form of IGF is Long R3 IGF-1, it has been chemically altered and has had amino acid changes which cause it to avoid binding to proteins in the human body and allow it to have a much longer half life, around 20-30 hours. "Long R3 IGF-1 is an 83 amino acid analog of IGF-1 comprising the complete human IGF-1 sequence with the substition of an Arg® for the Glu(E) at position three, hence R3, and a 13 amino acid extension peptide at the N terminus. This analog of IGF-1 has been produced with the purpose of increasing the biological activity of the IGF peptide. It is also not as expensive since a media grade version is available which is sufficient for bodybuilding use.
This is from the gensci igtropin page so Rico, I don't know why they did a flipflop but its right there in their site 20-30 hrs.

 

[ricorico]

are u sure thats an official gensci site?? this is the only one i know of, dunno why they would have 2

http://www.gensci-china.com/index.asp

 

[Kachunga]

They have 2 because Igtropin split away from Gensci in 2004. They are their own separate entity I guess. On your link there is no igf-1 info (at least on the english page, I can't read chinese!LOL). I am probably sounding like a pain in the ass to you guys, but I have done tons of research and have never seen that 6 hr claim.
Much Respect