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Zell959
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The follow is a cycle of Andreas Munzer's, which was obtained after his death BTW
Weeks 1-10
Ephedrine
Aspirin
Clenbuterol
Valium
Captagon
Cytomel
Weeks 1-5
Test Enan 500mg daily
Parabolan 152mg daily
Dianabol 150mg daily
Halotestin 150mg daily
HGH 20IU daily
Insulin 20IU daily
Weeks 6-8
Masteron 300mg daily
Parabolan 152mg daily
Winstrol Tab 250mg daily
Halotestin 150mg daily
Winstrol Inj. 50mg daily
HGH 24IU daily
Weeks 9-10
Masteron 200mg daily
Winstrol Inj 100mg daily
Halotestin 200mg daily
Winstrol Tab 400mg daily
HGH 24IU Daily
Insulin
IGF-1
Aldactone and Lasix for 3 days before show
Source:Anabolics 2005, but apparently is was originally published in Der Spiegel, a German magazine.
Weeks 1-10
Ephedrine
Aspirin
Clenbuterol
Valium
Captagon
Cytomel
Weeks 1-5
Test Enan 500mg daily
Parabolan 152mg daily
Dianabol 150mg daily
Halotestin 150mg daily
HGH 20IU daily
Insulin 20IU daily
Weeks 6-8
Masteron 300mg daily
Parabolan 152mg daily
Winstrol Tab 250mg daily
Halotestin 150mg daily
Winstrol Inj. 50mg daily
HGH 24IU daily
Weeks 9-10
Masteron 200mg daily
Winstrol Inj 100mg daily
Halotestin 200mg daily
Winstrol Tab 400mg daily
HGH 24IU Daily
Insulin
IGF-1
Aldactone and Lasix for 3 days before show
Source:Anabolics 2005, but apparently is was originally published in Der Spiegel, a German magazine.
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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bruce410 said:
Bruce knows his shit. He says it, its true.
I'm down to learn more about this too though.
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cbeaks
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I don't know why but I always like to see threads like these. I don't know about that Andreas Munzer cycle. I have read about his cycles before. That is a crazy amount of orals. The halotestin is far higher than anything I have ever heard of. Even the guys that use 5+ grams/week don't usually take more than 50-75mg of halotestin/day
Tux
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Yeah, I could certainly see 3.5g's of test a week, and 150mg/day of dbol. A roommate of mine ran 150mg/day of dbol as part of his FIRST cycle years ago, along with 200mg/day of test suspension. That part I can believe. But 150mg/day of halo on top of that? 400mg/day of oral winny? 200mg/day of halo? another 100mg/day of injectable winny? I'm sorry, but no matter how overstated the dangers of 17aa's are, no one's liver would survive that for more than a day or two. I also have never heard that priest uses much gear, hell he's one of the few guys that will even ADMIT he uses gear. He has NO GH gut, so I believe that he doesn't use much of that, and he gets FAT in the offseason, not muscular huge but FAT huge. I've never seen ANYTHING saying priest uses more gear than most, I've always seen that he uses less. I'm sure i could be wrong though, hell I'd never tell anyone how much or what I used if I was a top pro... well actually I probably would lol, they all take the same gear.
bruce410 said:
Most of that's just rumor, but it is true that Lee Priest was having kidney/liver problems a couple years back. Noone said anything specific, but the information was out there that he was having problems. I don't know about him using more gear than any other IFBB pro, but if you'd seen him in the offseason, you'd know he's definitely on a few things. He doesn't just get fat in the off-season, be balloons up.
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marshallmadman
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Lee Priest is one of the most genetically gifted bodybuilders I have seen in the last 20 years. He has always claimed to use amazingly low levels of gear throughout his career. I tend to believe him. He doesn't need it to gain his size. Now, as far as GH, IGF-1, Clen, diuretics, and insulin go, I have no idea. I am sure they are part of his regimen too, and can take their toll on your health as well.
Bruce
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ok this is coming from a friend of mine. i forgot to come back to this thread. at world gym in tucson we have over a 1000 bbers on the wall, some aren't shit some are. lee priest comes in when he is down here as well as paul demayo and gunther, whatever. tommy the guy who owns it is a champion bber and weightlifter, he told us that lee used more than anyone. he said lee was set to die at the rate he was juicing. i don't believe any pro saying they use 400. sorry just don't. this could be wrong, it is just funny to me cause we would talk about bbers with tommy cause he knows them all, shit arnold presented him with several awards, and it was like matter of fact that priest was a juice abuser.
Bruce
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yeah i have no absolute facts in this department, if you wanna know what type of juice a pro athlete tested positive for i can find it on the net if its out there, but man these guys keep their cycles low key, i can't find anything right now on priest and his usage. yeah its just talk from a guy who knows him. never know
Tweakle
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I've only ever chatted to one IFBB pro and he's relatively small.. but honest about his cycles. He spent $5k a month on juice and GH.. no doses, but they sure weren't 200mg deca a week.
Of course, if you take the EXACT cycle a pro takes you will end up looking EXACTLY like them.. lol
Of course, if you take the EXACT cycle a pro takes you will end up looking EXACTLY like them.. lol
silverbackn
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I don't think I even want to know. It just makes you realize what you have to put your body through to reach that level. I am a competitive bb'er, but as of now I have no aspirations of ever competing on a national level. I am not willing to put my body through that. I couldn't justify it. I have never even used insulin or GH. I'll just stick with my gram of test.
This may seem a little crazy, but my biggest concern with regards to these cycles is the cost and the limited earning power of the users. As I increase my dosages, I become more and more convinced that no amount of injectables is really that hard on you. Some orals can get over on you if you go too hard too long, but nothing like the hype. I am not being nieve, I realize I'm young and I realize the way it goes is you feel good til you feel bad, but by then its trouble. Still, 1 g of test feels very much like 250mg in terms of over all system feel. Gains change, but I don't feel taxed. With steady increases and smart use, particularly over a real career, I could see volumes getting quite high and not being terribly destructive. Yeah, long term pros do damage, but not the individual cycle. I also think, though I've been wrong before, that the lifestyle and harshness of bulking and dieting does alot of damage on its own. Throw in the mental stress and the financials woes, these things would worry me as much as the gear. That leads me back to the original point about the pro level cycle being physically doable, but logically hard to justify even as a pro unless you plan on locking down the O or Arnold or atleast landing a top level contract and even most pros can't.
Just some thoughts, not a whole lot to back em, but I find the whole question interesting.
Just some thoughts, not a whole lot to back em, but I find the whole question interesting.
Bruce
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for anyone who wants to know the bber who owns my gym is tommy ferrentino, he was 1995 mid america champion i don't know its on the wall along with 50 others, but this one was presented by arnold, i mean we have a poster at the gym that says warning! steroids work: and it lists all the things they do.
Tux
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Well, he'd never really lifted before. He was 6'1", about 155lbs, lean and skinny. He could bench 135 for maybe 4-5 reps. He also ran 800mg/week of deca, in the form of 16cc's of 50mg/ml Brovel deca no less. After about 4 months, he was 230lbs, still lean, and repping 315 on bench. He got some horrible backne, and some libido problems, but otherwise no serious or lasting sides. After coming off, he settled at about 215, 7-8% and has maintained that ever since. To this day, I don't know how he managed it.
silverbackn said:
Be satisfied, Silverback......
That 1G of Test is still ALOT.
Think about how much more test you're putting in to your body than it naturally produces.
Don't think about it in terms of comparing yourself to others, just look at it comparing you to yourself.
DIV
silverbackn
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That's definitely the right attitude to have, if you don't look at it that way it gets dangerous and becomes a mental roadblock. I know I don't use as much shit as other guys who compete and my cycles aren't elaborate. I am trying to do what I can with what I have without hurting myself. It's easy to lose sight of everything else when you compete or are seriously involved in bodybuilding, but I try to keep things in perspective. Good post Div!DIVISION said:
Tux
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Damn, you mean I'll have to take huge-ass doses to look like my boy Priest? And I was hoping to get by with just a couple of grams a week 
Oh well, I better pony up and hit 1.5g's of test a week this fall along with a gram of deca. That should put me at 220+ and 12% at 5'5", then I'll only be about 20lbs shy of Lee, yay. Hmm... if I could EAT enough to grow, those doses aren't actually that dangerous... if only I had priest's appetite I might have a shot, but no, no appetite and crappy genetics. Oh well, I always wanted to live to be over 100 anyway, 3g's a week might have cut me down at 95 or something 
Oh well, I better pony up and hit 1.5g's of test a week this fall along with a gram of deca. That should put me at 220+ and 12% at 5'5", then I'll only be about 20lbs shy of Lee, yay. Hmm... if I could EAT enough to grow, those doses aren't actually that dangerous... if only I had priest's appetite I might have a shot, but no, no appetite and crappy genetics. Oh well, I always wanted to live to be over 100 anyway, 3g's a week might have cut me down at 95 or something
silverbackn
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Hell, I would be happy with his wife's geneticsTux said:Damn, you mean I'll have to take huge-ass doses to look like my boy Priest? And I was hoping to get by with just a couple of grams a week
silverbackn
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That pisses me off something fierce when a woman smokes my ass like a pack of kool's.Makavelli said:I think we all would bro!
silverbackn
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I think I have seen a picture of her training with him, she is a frackin' monster!Tux said:
Tux said:Damn, you mean I'll have to take huge-ass doses to look like my boy Priest? And I was hoping to get by with just a couple of grams a week
Lee has genetics, but megadosing on gear obviously helped. I have no idea what kind of cycles he took, but in interviews he claims that most of his cycles are Test/GH and some clen.
PenguinPet, I don't think you need to be doing even 1G of Test ew, that's overkill. If you're not a competitive bodybuilder, it's not worth it. I suppose you could do it for experimental purposes, but I think it'd be a waste.
DIV
Excidium28
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Have u seen Ruhl wife/girlfriend, she's in his "made in germany" video. Bitch is huge!
Tux
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Unfortunately Div, I don't have Lee's genetics. You've seen my pics... I look alright, but if I want to get bigger than I am now, it will take doses in the 1g range. I've never had any medical problems, not even high BP, etc, from any dose of any gear, and I get it checked often. I don't compete NOW... but I have in the past and probably will again, so it's at least worth a shot, though of course not "necessary" since I don't intend to ever go pro.
Tweakle
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1-2gs really isnt that bad Div. 5gs+ is abuse imo, but it depends on your goals. If you're an 18 year old HS kid trying to get brad pitt abs for spring break then I'd break a barbell off in your ass for doing more than 500mg a week.. if you want to get to 250+ then you'll need big doses.. look at the guys like galaxy, needsize etc.. they look amazing and didnt do it on a couple of dbols a week
its like the idea that your hair will all fall out and you'll strangle your wife if you use tren. For those of us with below average receptor affintity it takes a lot of juice to get the same results as the guys who's muscles are chocked full of AR goodness. bastards.
its like the idea that your hair will all fall out and you'll strangle your wife if you use tren. For those of us with below average receptor affintity it takes a lot of juice to get the same results as the guys who's muscles are chocked full of AR goodness. bastards.
Makavelli
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Tweakle said:1-2gs really isnt that bad Div. 5gs+ is abuse imo, but it depends on your goals. If you're an 18 year old HS kid trying to get brad pitt abs for spring break then I'd break a barbell off in your ass for doing more than 500mg a week.. if you want to get to 250+ then you'll need big doses.. look at the guys like galaxy, needsize etc.. they look amazing and didnt do it on a couple of dbols a week
its like the idea that your hair will all fall out and you'll strangle your wife if you use tren. For those of us with below average receptor affintity it takes a lot of juice to get the same results as the guys who's muscles are chocked full of AR goodness. bastards.
I agree, I don't think 2 G's is excessive if you're a competitive BB. 5 G's well...maybe someday...
Tweakle said:1-2gs really isnt that bad Div. 5gs+ is abuse imo, but it depends on your goals. If you're an 18 year old HS kid trying to get brad pitt abs for spring break then I'd break a barbell off in your ass for doing more than 500mg a week.. if you want to get to 250+ then you'll need big doses.. look at the guys like galaxy, needsize etc.. they look amazing and didnt do it on a couple of dbols a week
its like the idea that your hair will all fall out and you'll strangle your wife if you use tren. For those of us with below average receptor affintity it takes a lot of juice to get the same results as the guys who's muscles are chocked full of AR goodness. bastards.
Bigger guys don't necessarily need bigger doses. As you said some of us are blessed with good genetics. I'm a 250+ bber @ 5'11" around 6%bf and I don't really need large doses. 500mg Sus /300mgs of EQ/ 40mgs of D-bol and oh yeah 3-6ius of hgh. I'm still growing. Basically it all comes down to the individual and their DNA. Unfortunately some people have to pay more for the same results. "sucks for them"
Tweakle said:1-2gs really isnt that bad Div. 5gs+ is abuse imo, but it depends on your goals. If you're an 18 year old HS kid trying to get brad pitt abs for spring break then I'd break a barbell off in your ass for doing more than 500mg a week.. if you want to get to 250+ then you'll need big doses.. look at the guys like galaxy, needsize etc.. they look amazing and didnt do it on a couple of dbols a week
its like the idea that your hair will all fall out and you'll strangle your wife if you use tren. For those of us with below average receptor affintity it takes a lot of juice to get the same results as the guys who's muscles are chocked full of AR goodness. bastards.
Tweakle Tweakle....lil' star....
I suppose you're right that bad receptor affinity, but don't you think there's a point at which even anabolic saturation can't overcome bad genetics?
I guess I've got good genetics because I make gains on low doses and never felt the need to hit the 1G barrier.
For non-competitive athletes/bb I don't see the need to go over 1G. If you can't grow on 1G of Test ew then there are other problems you're overlooking.
I can't even imagine what Lee Priest was taking during his bulking era...
DIV
Bruce
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exactly, if you ever have seen priest off season, i did in vegas at a roy jones fight. his arms loooked like they are inflated i mean there is no difference between his flex and non flex, like a damn baloon, that motherfucker is takin a whole lot of shit, but that was 4 years ago and you don't see lee around as much as cutler now, seems like lee used to be the blonde poster boy now its cutler
marshallmadman
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DIVISION said:Tweakle Tweakle....lil' star....
I suppose you're right that bad receptor affinity, but don't you think there's a point at which even anabolic saturation can't overcome bad genetics?
I guess I've got good genetics because I make gains on low doses and never felt the need to hit the 1G barrier.
For non-competitive athletes/bb I don't see the need to go over 1G. If you can't grow on 1G of Test ew then there are other problems you're overlooking.
I can't even imagine what Lee Priest was taking during his bulking era...
DIV
That one sentence sums it all up DIV Nugga! If you can't grow on a gram of test, you need to start looking at things other than upping your dosage. Lackluster training intensity is the biggest culprit amongst today's bodybuilding crowd. They get on a gram of test and a gram of EQ, then train each bodypart with lame intensity once a week because they fear that they will overtrain because all of the magazines constantly talk about overtraining. You need to damn near kill yourself in the gym to get the kinds of results that you want, gear or not. You hafta pay the dues in the gym.....bottom line. Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody want to lift no heavy weights....
Tweakle
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div sure, the more you throw at it the less the results will be, you get diminishing returns.. I think your body can only process so much gear. 2gs a week doesnt give twice the results but it does give a major kick in the ass strength wise. I think there's a genetic limit to how much you can grow on moderate doses, and it takes a lot to break thru that.. not interested in slin or GH so I cant comment on that stuff, but to get past 230 is taking some serious juice.. my training and diet are on point, you hit a point where the only way to keep adding weight to the bar is more tren
my focus is strength.. I care how I look obviously but there's no way I'll be squatting 635 raw with a mild var cycle and some EQ
my focus is strength.. I care how I look obviously but there's no way I'll be squatting 635 raw with a mild var cycle and some EQ
marshallmadman said:
Is your mother really that bad, Marshall?
Are you telling me I should not fuck her?
Yes, to get any results you have to really push yourself in the gym, push out those last few reps that take everything you've got to finish and then eat healthy enough to grow in your downtime. When you are on AAS, overtraining is not a factor, but undertraining can be. I just up my intensity and push my body to the max, that's the only way you'll grow.....the body doesn't want to grow it wants homeostasis. You have to counteract that and that usually involves pain and suffering.
DIV
Tux
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Believe me Div, that's not my problem. I train legs so hard I can't walk right for several days, they're sore for 5 days or so every time. I hit back with 20-25 sets, heavy barbell and db rows, pulldowns, seated rows, etc. Everything gets hit hard and heavy, lots of sets, lower reps... much like Lee Priest. Then I do my best to suck down 4500-5000 calories per day just to grow a few measly pounds? My metabolism and frame really don't like adding the extra weight, I think at this point, I just have to wait till I'm older and my metabolism hopefully slows down. The way I train and eat, if I go to 1g+ this fall and still don't grow anymore, then damn do I have bad genetics
Tweakle
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overtraining is actually a serious factor when on AAS.. ask needsize or any of the guys routinely lifting heavy weights (400+ benches, 500+ squats and 600+ deads) if they beleive overtraining's not possible on cycle.
roids improve my recovery ability some, but I'd rather the juice was used for growth than for soaking up the damage done by overtraining. I look at it this way, when I can bench 495 then my chest will be a lot bigger than the dude who does 10 sets with 275.
tux i obivously have no idea how you respond to volume you might be overdoing it, especially with that volume & intensity.. 25 sets for back, damn how much do you do for legs? I did 2 worksets of squats & a set of pause squats on sunday and that was game over. Look at the size of the guys juicing and doing DC..
roids improve my recovery ability some, but I'd rather the juice was used for growth than for soaking up the damage done by overtraining. I look at it this way, when I can bench 495 then my chest will be a lot bigger than the dude who does 10 sets with 275.
tux i obivously have no idea how you respond to volume you might be overdoing it, especially with that volume & intensity.. 25 sets for back, damn how much do you do for legs? I did 2 worksets of squats & a set of pause squats on sunday and that was game over. Look at the size of the guys juicing and doing DC..
DIVISION said:
I think that's a really good point. If fairly constant blood levels of 10x your natural test can't get you to gain muscle there's a problem. Look at HRT dosages (real ones not drug dealers in disguise) and realize that a gram is many multiples more than they perscribe. Plus, with injectibles providing relatively constant blood levels there is always plenty of test floating around (unlike normal human fluctuations over the course of 24 hours).
If you can't gain in this type of chemically altered envirnoment, you sure as shit can't gain naturally and given that humans are designed and have a propensity to adapt there is simply something wrong with your procedure for spuring on adaptation, not the environment. Granted someone way above their genetic potential, okay - he's going to need to compensate by racheting up the dosages because he's already unnatural but most people can get pretty big naturally (maybe not by staying at 6-8% bodyfat or razor cut all the time but certainly within reasonable shape and then cutting back down should they choose to).
silverbackn
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Just to nitpick, how much weight you're using and your strength doesn't dicate growth. How hard the muscle is working does. I feel my chest working much harder when I bench 225 and control it ans squeeze it using no momentum, than I do handling 315 for 6-8 reps.Tweakle said:
Madcow2 said:
Great post Madcow......I suppose I have great androgen receptor affinity because I don't need high dosages to make steady progress.
HRT doses are like 200MG EOW.........so 1 Gram of Test ew is about 10X what the average HRT schedule dictates.
That's why I think 1 Gram of Test EW is overkill for most guys. You just don't need that much Test flowing through your body to make gains. If you can't make gains on that, your genetics are absolute shit or your diet and lifting program are shit. It's one of the three......
You give an AIDS patient 1Gram of Test EW and they'll grow just laying there, so any healthy adult on 1Gram should really see progress.
I just don't see the possibility that someone's androgen receptor affinity could be so bad that they need that much.
DIV
psychedout
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idcbp said:
I've got a problem with this statement. I could bet money you have not had bloodwork done on 250mg vs 1000mg of Testosterone.
How you feel hardly qualifies as having an empirical element to it and immediately destroys any validity to your claim.
If you ran both cycles and kept everything exactly the same, then you could draw a strong conclusion; however, I am more then willing to bet your bloodwork would reveal significantly more problems on 1000mg of Testosterone than on 250mg.
Tux
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Tweakle, I don't do the same # of sets for everything. Actually legs are a good bodypart, they rarely get more than 10 sets and they grow well. Back is stubborn for me so it gets hit harder. I think I may still be overtraining though, so I've just cut my schedule back from 6 days a week to 4 days a week. We'll see if the increased time off lets me recover more, and therefor grow more. I sure hope so... and now I'm off to eat again, damn I hate eating!
weeks#1-4
250mg sustanon and 250mg test enenthate or cypionate on mon-wens-friday
200mg e.q. on monday wensday friday
150mg tren on tuesday and thursday
30mg d-bol per day or 50mg anadrol per day
4IU GH per day(please take this 2 hours after your last meal right before bed)
4iu humulin-r 2 times per day on monday and thursdays only(please drink 1 carbo force or carbo rush drink with each shot)
50 mcg t-3 per day
60mcg clenbuterol per day
50mg proviron per day
1 tab arimadex EOD
20mg nolvadex per day
weeks #5-6
we are going to take a break as we will kick in
2500iu HCG every 3 days in weeks #5-6
tribistan brand tribulus 1500mg per day
50mg clomid per day
!-AD 2 capsules 3 times per day
80mcg clenbuterol per day
weeks #7-12 will be as follows bellow
600mg deca per week
800mg test prop. per week
50mg winstrol-v EOD
4iu GH per day
1/2 tab arimadex per day
100mg proviron per day
50mg masteron per day
100mg primobolan depot EOD
2 tablets of "jacked" fat burner 3 times per day(no clenbuterol during this period)
weeks #13-16
150mg tren EOD
100MG winny-v EOD
100mg test suspension EOD
100mg primobolan depot per day
75mg proviron per day
30mg nolvadex per day
30mg anavar per day
1 tab arimadex per day
80mcg clen per day
100mcg t-3 per day
2iu GH per day( we will drop this 2 weeks out)
20mg haloteston per day
600mg e.q. per week
250mg sustanon and 250mg test enenthate or cypionate on mon-wens-friday
200mg e.q. on monday wensday friday
150mg tren on tuesday and thursday
30mg d-bol per day or 50mg anadrol per day
4IU GH per day(please take this 2 hours after your last meal right before bed)
4iu humulin-r 2 times per day on monday and thursdays only(please drink 1 carbo force or carbo rush drink with each shot)
50 mcg t-3 per day
60mcg clenbuterol per day
50mg proviron per day
1 tab arimadex EOD
20mg nolvadex per day
weeks #5-6
we are going to take a break as we will kick in
2500iu HCG every 3 days in weeks #5-6
tribistan brand tribulus 1500mg per day
50mg clomid per day
!-AD 2 capsules 3 times per day
80mcg clenbuterol per day
weeks #7-12 will be as follows bellow
600mg deca per week
800mg test prop. per week
50mg winstrol-v EOD
4iu GH per day
1/2 tab arimadex per day
100mg proviron per day
50mg masteron per day
100mg primobolan depot EOD
2 tablets of "jacked" fat burner 3 times per day(no clenbuterol during this period)
weeks #13-16
150mg tren EOD
100MG winny-v EOD
100mg test suspension EOD
100mg primobolan depot per day
75mg proviron per day
30mg nolvadex per day
30mg anavar per day
1 tab arimadex per day
80mcg clen per day
100mcg t-3 per day
2iu GH per day( we will drop this 2 weeks out)
20mg haloteston per day
600mg e.q. per week
heres your diuretic use
MONDAY AND TUESDAY: 1 TAB ALDACTONE IN THE A.M. AND ANOTHER TAB 8 HOURS LATER/2 TABS OF QUINIE SULFATE 3 TIMES PER DAY
WENSDAY:1 TAB ALDACTONE IN THE A.M. AND 1 TAB ALDACTONE/DIAZIDE IN THE P.M. 8 HOURS LATER/2 TABS QUNINE SULFATE 3 TIMES PER DAY
THURSDAY: 1 TAB ALDACTONE/DIAZIDE IN THE A.M. AND ANOTHER TAB OF EACH 8 HOURS LATER ALONG WITH 2 TABS OF QUININE SULFATE 3 TIMES PER DAY
FRIDAY: YOU WILL TAKE 1 TAB OF ALDACTONE IN THE A.M. AND WE WILL ACCESS YOUR OVERALL LOOK AND POSSIBLY HIT 10-20MG OF DEMEDEX AROUND 1-2 P.M. IF NEEDED! ALSO YOU WILL KEEP THE QUININE SULFATE IN AT 2 TABS 3 TIMES PER DAY THRUE PRE-JUDGE!
that is the game plan as we speak in regards to water also we will drop sodium on Monday and re-introduce it ever so slightly thursday and friday. your water intake will be 3 gallons of distilled water mon-wensday and 1 1/2 gallons on thursday and 16-32 oz. on friday. essentially what you pee out you put back in on Friday.
MONDAY AND TUESDAY: 1 TAB ALDACTONE IN THE A.M. AND ANOTHER TAB 8 HOURS LATER/2 TABS OF QUINIE SULFATE 3 TIMES PER DAY
WENSDAY:1 TAB ALDACTONE IN THE A.M. AND 1 TAB ALDACTONE/DIAZIDE IN THE P.M. 8 HOURS LATER/2 TABS QUNINE SULFATE 3 TIMES PER DAY
THURSDAY: 1 TAB ALDACTONE/DIAZIDE IN THE A.M. AND ANOTHER TAB OF EACH 8 HOURS LATER ALONG WITH 2 TABS OF QUININE SULFATE 3 TIMES PER DAY
FRIDAY: YOU WILL TAKE 1 TAB OF ALDACTONE IN THE A.M. AND WE WILL ACCESS YOUR OVERALL LOOK AND POSSIBLY HIT 10-20MG OF DEMEDEX AROUND 1-2 P.M. IF NEEDED! ALSO YOU WILL KEEP THE QUININE SULFATE IN AT 2 TABS 3 TIMES PER DAY THRUE PRE-JUDGE!
that is the game plan as we speak in regards to water also we will drop sodium on Monday and re-introduce it ever so slightly thursday and friday. your water intake will be 3 gallons of distilled water mon-wensday and 1 1/2 gallons on thursday and 16-32 oz. on friday. essentially what you pee out you put back in on Friday.
silverbackn
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My pre-contest cycle is pretty elaborate too.
1g of test (lower the test at some point)
.5mg of rimi everyday
37.5 mg's of tren everyday the last 6 weeks
I feel like a fucking loser
1g of test (lower the test at some point)
.5mg of rimi everyday
37.5 mg's of tren everyday the last 6 weeks
I feel like a fucking loser
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