If you've worked hard on your body then you deserve a physically attractive mate.

[AAP]

if you were female, you would have made a great sorority girl...

True dat.

 

[atlantabiolab]

LOL, OK, I wish I had chosen a word more prudent than "deserve".

Basically what I am saying is that I have put all that work into my appearance. With that work I am able to attract a physical specimen of a more pleasing standard than I would have been able to back when I was a skinny, zitty, 18 year old.

Since I have the capacity to attract attractive partners, why should I settle for some average looking Joe, just because of some PC idea that it is only the personality that counts.

I totally agree that personality is an essential ingredient. What I am trying to say to people on this thread is that I have met attractive jerks and attractive nice people. I have met plain looking jerks and plain looking nice people. Why should I not have an attractive nice person as a partner instead of a plain nice person? I get this holier than thou attitude from others when I place any weight on the attractive element instead of solely on the nice element.

The fact remains that I enjoy the company of nice people. But unless they are physically appealing as well then they don't do it for me between the sheets.

I am not understanding your questions. Who is saying that you must accept anyone? Drop this collective consensus bullshit of PC-ness. This is your life, your decision of a partner, and therefore they must meet your criteria. If they fail in the looks department, and this is important to you, then it is your right not to accept them. "Love" or "attraction" is about finding one who is a reflection of your ideals, of your beliefs, of your values, this is what one is "attracted" to, what one falls in "love" with. It is subjective.

But it is a reciprocal effect, you will have to have the same effect on them, also.

 

[naturally anabolic]

im doomed, no looks and no personality....

note to self: become a hermit!

 

[Testosterone boy]

I am not understanding your questions. Who is saying that you must accept anyone? Drop this collective consensus bullshit of PC-ness. This is your life, your decision of a partner, and therefore they must meet your criteria. If they fail in the looks department, and this is important to you, then it is your right not to accept them. "Love" or "attraction" is about finding one who is a reflection of your ideals, of your beliefs, of your values, this is what one is "attracted" to, what one falls in "love" with. It is subjective.

But it is a reciprocal effect, you will have to have the same effect on them, also.

This guy has a very good mind but never strikes me as a bodybuilder though I have met some very intelligent bodybuilders.

ABL.....are you one of those cardio kings seeking to work off stress and maintain a heathier lifestyle?

Personally I have concluded that weights make one look good but hardly contribute to good health if one is already pretty healthy. Partly because of injuries and also because size and soreness tend to slow one down.

My energy level and sex drive have both taken off since becoming an active swimmer.



HanzNZ.....as I recall you are over a million dollars in debt? Thats some serious baggage in my humble opinion. You do have brains and brawn though.....I wish you luck.

 

[Stan O'Zolol]

Looks don't matter, but physical attraction does. The difference is that a physical attraction can develop with someone whom one may not initially find "good looking". This difference is "sexiness" which is a term we use to qualify someone we want to have sex with. Sexiness, I believe, is a combination of many traits, and what you might not find attractive in a photograph for example, you may find attractive in person. There are many good looking people that are not sexy, and many sexy people that may not be termed good looking.

 

[nevertoobig]

Looks don't matter, but physical attraction does. The difference is that a physical attraction can develop with someone whom one may not initially find "good looking". This difference is "sexiness" which is a term we use to qualify someone we want to have sex with. Sexiness, I believe, is a combination of many traits, and what you might not find attractive in a photograph for example, you may find attractive in person. There are many good looking people that are not sexy, and many sexy people that may not be termed good looking.

T'is true.

 

[musclebrains]

Looks don't matter, but physical attraction does. The difference is that a physical attraction can develop with someone whom one may not initially find "good looking". This difference is "sexiness" which is a term we use to qualify someone we want to have sex with. Sexiness, I believe, is a combination of many traits, and what you might not find attractive in a photograph for example, you may find attractive in person. There are many good looking people that are not sexy, and many sexy people that may not be termed good looking.

Absolutely.

I've had beautiful/brilliant, beautiful/dumb and average/brilliant. I'll take the latter.

This thread reminds me of the movie "American Beauty." Remember how Lester got out the weights to make himself attractive to his Aphrodite figure, a high school virgin? He had to come to a reckoning with a deeper sense of the beautiful.

Physical beauty is always transient -- especially among people who do anabolic steroids and other kinds of cosmetic enhancements. I find it useful to keep this in mind when I am feeling that I "deserve" the attention of the beautiful.

 

[HansNZ]

Looks don't matter, but physical attraction does.

Attraction is what I am talking about!

I am often attracted to guys other people think nothing of. What I get sick of is this constant attitude that it doesn't matter about the physical so long as they have a nice personality. I want to be turned on by the person I am having sex with beyond enjoying an interesting conversation.

I have worked hard on my body. As a result, when I travel I get attention from amazing looking guys. I get sick of being told that I should instead be going for the office slug because he has a nice personality, because that is all that matters. I prefer the gym guy with the nice personality, and I think it is overly PC (and somewhat disingenuous) for people to say that I am superficial for choosing the nice gym guy over the nice office slug because the gym guy with the nice personality has biceps.

 

[Sinistar]

I am often attracted to guys other people think nothing of. What I get sick of is this constant attitude that it doesn't matter about the physical so long as they have a nice personality. I want to be turned on by the person I am having sex with beyond enjoying an interesting conversation

one question hanz: are you sooooo hung up on looks that you may pass up someone worth a shit? is love not enough?

im not slamming you here, but it seems like looks are jockeying for position with love in the order of your wishes here. how do i figure that? well in the above basically say you arent turned on by less than stellar ppl. ugly girls have gotten me hard before, so either the ppl you fuck are shitty in the sack, which has nothing to do with looks or, theres something wrong with you. like being the gay version of a size queen.

if you want love, great. but im not sure about your depth when it sounds very much like you are incapable of loving someone who isnt a knockout.

to me, thats a big problem. when i hear a girl say what you say, she usually has the depth of a mud puddle, and about as exciting. tend to be pretty stuck on themselves, and think they are a gift to whoever they are around.

 

[musclebrains]

Attraction is what I am talking about!

I am often attracted to guys other people think nothing of. What I get sick of is this constant attitude that it doesn't matter about the physical so long as they have a nice personality. I want to be turned on by the person I am having sex with beyond enjoying an interesting conversation.

I have worked hard on my body. As a result, when I travel I get attention from amazing looking guys. I get sick of being told that I should instead be going for the office slug because he has a nice personality, because that is all that matters. I prefer the gym guy with the nice personality, and I think it is overly PC (and somewhat disingenuous) for people to say that I am superficial for choosing the nice gym guy over the nice office slug because the gym guy with the nice personality has biceps.

Sort of. But you are complaining you can't find what you want around you. Many people might re-prioritize what they're looking for in that circumstance. Go ahead, fuck a troll. YOu'll feel better for it.