if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your gains

[die faster]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

hahahaha thanks for the pic man that explains it all

im pretty sure i hit my genetic max on cycle. 5'7-5'8 when i got to about 210 at 12% and this time around i lost alot more of my gains than i ever have. now i bounced right back to 196 (started 185 before cycle). but thats another thread..

i feel that now that im off its impossible to maintain a size higher than my genetic max. so it got me thinking.. these dudes that start a cycle while theyre already at their genetic max, what do they expect to keep from it?? and what do the ppl telling them to wait till their genetic max expect them to keep from their cycle??

is anyone here really maintaining more size than they can get naturally while theyre off cycle??

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

for me personally, i can gain as much size as i want. i use AAS to try and keep a lower bodyfat at a bigger size than i would be naturally. if it was just about size and strength for me i could keep on gaining

 

[stevesmi]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

how bout this perspective.

my tren/mast cycle I ran which I have a log up of I only gained a couple pounds.. however if you look at the before and after pics there is a difference in the way I look. so there is a difference in what you are capable of being genetically between what pics show and what the scale says.

my point is you cannot judge your genetic potential by listening to what a scale says IMO.

 

[-SD-]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

I think there is a genetic limit for the amount of lean body mass any given person can carry. so that means there is a limit to what someone can maintain as far as the combination of bodyfat% and lean body mass.
That was a good graph by the way subz. it may be lol but its actually a good accurate representation.

 

[Voijn]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

Well... at one point we reach our fully protensial in hormone levels, at point where we are using 100% of our test to hold the mass that we have build.
going beyond this amount of test, wich injections you can raise test and that way build muscle faster? but how the hell you wonna keep them, when ure hormone levels are returning to normal ?

some people use low dose anabolics to maintain untill next cycle, maybe strength from the roids is actually helping preservere more mass then natural.

 

[stevesmi]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

^^^ an old poster on here was 5'5" and 250 pounds with 10% bf. he had pics up and he competed all the time.. not gonna say the name but everyone on here knows who I am talking about. he would run dbol cycles and blast and cruise. he stayed on for a long time

so i agree that without being on roids there is no way he could of achieved that monstrosity of size.

 

[-SD-]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

In the end its all a crapshoot. You can train right, eat right, roid right, but at the end of the day you wont know what you can achieve until you actually do it.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Re: if you wait till you hit your complete genetic max to cycle, wont you lose your g

Well... at one point we reach our fully protensial in hormone levels, at point where we are using 100% of our test to hold the mass that we have build.
going beyond this amount of test, wich injections you can raise test and that way build muscle faster? but how the hell you wonna keep them, when ure hormone levels are returning to normal ?

some people use low dose anabolics to maintain untill next cycle, maybe strength from the roids is actually helping preservere more mass then natural.

thats not how it works.