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If you could be either smart or athletic ...

PICK3

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smart (as in M.I.T. PhD smart) OR

athletic (as in Professional athlete)

Which would you pick?

I'm thinking you're getting lots of tail either way.
 
Athletic all the way. A lot more fun

Whiskey
 
Smart, because there aren't as many professional athlete options for women that result in a big payoff like the men get. :)
 
Athletic.. for sure.. you can get injured and not work and still get paid..

Some people that are smart have no personality or may be the most annoying people you ever talk to. I'm working on my MBA and fuck, some of these goobs are just flat out stupid on real life issues.. I hate that shit
 
Yeah... but you can retire by 40.. and be set for life.. I mean in comparison.. An MIT PHd would be like a top of the line athlete, performing at his best..
 
To me it's kind of sad to see a hall of famer, e.g. Marino or Jordan, sure they set financially but they can't compete at the level they're accustomed to in the thing they are most passionate about.
 
Yeah, but still, usually that gives them time to spend with their families that they didn't have a choice to be away from during their competitive years. There's still options to keep them busy.. Broadcasting..
 
monsterMMF said:
Athletic.. for sure.. you can get injured and not work and still get paid..
True, if you're in the top of your profession, but if not, you're retiring at twenty one with bad knees/back/brain.
& really, how many top athletes do you respect. I have personal respect for very few of them.
However, if you've got brains, you can make yourself be somewhat athletic.
There are lots of unathletic smart people that I respect immensely.
There was a guy at my work yesterday, explaining the new RRSP & pension info. He was overweight, around 50. The 2 young hotties working with him looked at him as if he shit Gold. They were doing the subliminal stuff, like touching their hair, facing him when they spoke. It was actually funny to see.
He was obviously very sure of himself.
 
I'm pretty smart right now. If I pick athlete do I get to keep my current intellect or do I become as stupid as Terrell Owens and Mike Tyson? Because if that is the case then I will definately go with more brain power, but if I would just be me with super athletic skills I would go that route.
 
Smart. I could build a metal suit and call myself Iron Man while I'm running Stark Industries.

It depends on whether we're talking extremes. Would anyone care to swap places with Hawking?
 
n0th1ng said:
I'm pretty smart right now. If I pick athlete do I get to keep my current intellect or do I become as stupid as Terrell Owens and Mike Tyson? Because if that is the case then I will definately go with more brain power, but if I would just be me with super athletic skills I would go that route.

I think Steve Young is probably the best of both world's.

He's a Brigham Young lawyer and a former NFL MVP.
 
The way I see it, I had to make this choice 40-odd years ago. I chose smart with enough athleticism to work with. No regrets.
 
PICK3 said:
smart (as in M.I.T. PhD smart) OR

athletic (as in Professional athlete)

Which would you pick?

I'm thinking you're getting lots of tail either way.

smart doesnt benefit u till uv made some sort of invention in ur 40's and become rich...then the fun starts there.

pro athletic your cruisin through life

like make lots of big bucks professional athlete set for life type thing, girls loving u, being a badass all the way through school.
 
hidngod said:
True, if you're in the top of your profession, but if not, you're retiring at twenty one with bad knees/back/brain.
& really, how many top athletes do you respect. I have personal respect for very few of them.
However, if you've got brains, you can make yourself be somewhat athletic.
There are lots of unathletic smart people that I respect immensely.
There was a guy at my work yesterday, explaining the new RRSP & pension info. He was overweight, around 50. The 2 young hotties working with him looked at him as if he shit Gold. They were doing the subliminal stuff, like touching their hair, facing him when they spoke. It was actually funny to see.
He was obviously very sure of himself.
true.

i was assuming either smart of smart einstien, or athletic of athletic (i dunno any athletes)
 
i would have to say smart...cause really what do you benefit from being athletic????
i mean if you are in pro bowl or what not but then you really have no time to yourself cause you are either playing games or training..when do you have time for any thing else?
i like smart better because you can do a few hours a day and be in the money...not have to worry about when you will have time to do any thing
 
Smart's not necessarily all it's cut out to be either. A lot of miserable people are insanely smart. I mean that quite literally.

It can be hard to relate to anyone due to having to paraphrase all of your thoughts so that they don't fly over the heads of 95% of your friends and, when you find someone who does understand half of what you want to say, most people think you're being deliberately obscure whenever you get together. You end up huddling in little smart-collectives. Most people call them Universities.
 
Blut Wump said:
Smart's not necessarily all it's cut out to be either. A lot of miserable people are insanely smart. I mean that quite literally.

It can be hard to relate to anyone due to having to paraphrase all of your thoughts so that they don't fly over the heads of 95% of your friends and, when you find someone who does understand half of what you want to say, most people think you're being deliberately obscure whenever you get together. You end up huddling in little smart-collectives. Most people call them Universities.
I was with you, up to the word University. Have some K anyway.
 
to tell the truth im both. im in college right now at the age of 30. i played semi pro football for the past several years. i was in the navy under contract so even if i made it somewhere i would have to wait for the contract to run out. but i am still athletic and have a 3.8 GPA in college at the age of 30. not bad for not having been to school for 13 years. but if i had to choose one or the other, i dont think i can. i believe you should have both. some athletes are very good at what they do, but they get injured before there time and the money they made was blown because they thought they were indistructable. shows they werent very smart. but now they have nothing to fall back on so a lot of them become regular people working regular jobs. and i believe that a smart person should take some time to play a sport. even raquetball, tennis, weightlifting, etc are good choices. because you can be the smartes man in the world but if you dont take care of your body you will die early and never really had a chance to enjoy the money.

thats my take on it.
 
Angel said:
i would have to say smart...cause really what do you benefit from being athletic????
i mean if you are in pro bowl or what not but then you really have no time to yourself cause you are either playing games or training..when do you have time for any thing else?
i like smart better because you can do a few hours a day and be in the money...not have to worry about when you will have time to do any thing

Don't you think most brilliant PhD types spend most of their waking hours with their face in a book or doing some sort of research?
 
PICK3 said:
smart (as in M.I.T. PhD smart) OR

athletic (as in Professional athlete)

Which would you pick?

I'm thinking you're getting lots of tail either way.
yeah...but neither compares to being a Musician...neither can draw the "masses" as such either.
 
Always, always, always....if this was a choice, take intelligence. The athletes get their paychecks from corporate Emperors who got there with brainpower.


I have to tell this story though, to emphasize the point.

I went to a boarding school that had one of the top basketball pograms in the country. Our team my year produced 10 division-1 players and three pros. If there was such a thing as "national champs" we would have won it by a mile.

The best player on the team - by far - was named "Steve" Steve was the best athlete I ever met. I've been around basketball my whole life, and the only person I've ever seen that runs and jumps like Steve is Vince Carter. For raw basketball athleticism, Steve > Vince Carter. The kid was just a freak.

Steve went on to play at one of the top colleges in the country, for a legendary coach. Steve started as a freshman, which almost no one ever did at this school.

Steve was out of there by his sophomore year, because he was dumb as hammered shit. (Steve avoided Prop 48 because someone took his SAT's for him. This is very common. There is a graduate of Syracuse University who attended on a full scholarship because he enabled a current NBA player to get eligible to play at Syracuse. The same thing happened for Steve at another school).

Steve should have been an NBA player. He's playing overseas now. But he was just too stupid. Some more on this topic -

I was the smartest kid on the team. And since Steve and I both played guard, I got to take on this fucking freak in practice. One time, in a half court set, he made a cut away from the hoop and then back to it. Before I realized what was going on, Steve had jumped to catch an alley-oop. The pass was terrible, so Steve had to go up and get it. He reached up (the ball was well above the square, probably 12 feet high, shitty pass) and caught it. Because he was moving so fast, he brought the ball down, flew underneath the hoop and dunked it backward.

I looked at the coach like "What the fuck am I supposed to do?" (I played division-1 also, I was fucking good, but this kid was supernatural).

After practice the coach grabbed me and said "Hey...you're still stunned by what Steve did....but you'll go farther in this world with your brain than Steve will with his body".

He was right. And if he's still around when I buy a team :) I will make him director of personnel and scouting.
 
bigmann245 said:
to tell the truth im both. im in college right now at the age of 30. i played semi pro football for the past several years.

No ... you're not.

In college at 30? Most real achievers have already made their mark.

semi-pro ball? How many G's have you set aside?

Nice try, orb.
 
PICK3 said:
No ... you're not.

In college at 30? Most real achievers have already made their mark.

semi-pro ball? How many G's have you set aside?

Nice try, orb.

lets see, i believe i was defending our country in the navy. sorry if i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth and was not able to afford college right away. oh and by the way, after i broke my ankle i became part owner of the team so yea i made my mark but it is not something i wish to do forever so i moved on this year. the VA offered to pay 100% for college so i said shit yea. so now i am a full time college student pulling in 4k a month without having to lift a finger for work. i would say that is pretty smart. i set myself up pretty damn well for not having a job. so again i say i am smart AND i am athletic. oh and in case you were wondering why i didnt get into college on a scholarship for football, well thats easy. my school was so damn poor we didnt have sports for the last 3 years of high school. the budget was turned down every year for the last 3 years of school. so its hard to get recognized when you cant play. so i joined the navy at the age of 17. what were you doing at 17? and what kind of mark have you made? or are you still 17 thinking the world is going to hand you everything because you know it all and have done it all?
 
Angel said:
not at all......

are you serious?

these people need to make a living too. A PhD doesn't come with an automatic weekly paycheck. I'm sure MTS will back me up when I say that 99.9% of the smartest doctors, scientists, lawyers, businessmen, etc that are wealthy are logging serious hours at work, most likely considerably more than your average 9-5.

i don't care if you're stephen hawking, if you don't lift a finger then you won't achieve a thing
 
Einstien himself said that genius if 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration.

Anyone who wants to thrive needs to work hard the difference is that someone who is good at what they do will probably have more to show for their time spent.
 
It would be nice for everyone to be smart but the dumb athletic ones are better lovers.
 
sigweed said:
are you serious?

these people need to make a living too. A PhD doesn't come with an automatic weekly paycheck. I'm sure MTS will back me up when I say that 99.9% of the smartest doctors, scientists, lawyers, businessmen, etc that are wealthy are logging serious hours at work, most likely considerably more than your average 9-5.

i don't care if you're stephen hawking, if you don't lift a finger then you won't achieve a thing


i believe in working hard. this is why i concentrate all my efforts towards school. i believe it will pay off in the end. i mean its not like i can walk into a board room without a degree and ask for a 6 figure salary. i know where i am going, i know where i came from but you have to take it one step at a time. i want to make my own fortune and not be given it from Daddy Dearest. my dad is a truck driver. i respect him because he raised a family of 5 on a very low income. but he works very hard and showed me what an honest dollar can do. i just have higher expectations of myself to go farther than what was handed to me. believe me, i have been working since i was 11. i even got into trouble with the labor deoartement as they caught me working under age. but it was my decision to do so. it was just a paper route but in new york you had to be 12. i couldnt wait. but i worked ever since. so i know all about lifting a finger, its just i set myself up good for now so that i can concentrate fully on school, get high grades and have a better chance to get a better job when i graduate. i have a plan believe me.
 
bigmann245 said:
lets see, i believe i was defending our country in the navy. sorry if i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth and was not able to afford college right away. oh and by the way, after i broke my ankle i became part owner of the team so yea i made my mark but it is not something i wish to do forever so i moved on this year. the VA offered to pay 100% for college so i said shit yea. so now i am a full time college student pulling in 4k a month without having to lift a finger for work. i would say that is pretty smart. i set myself up pretty damn well for not having a job. so again i say i am smart AND i am athletic. oh and in case you were wondering why i didnt get into college on a scholarship for football, well thats easy. my school was so damn poor we didnt have sports for the last 3 years of high school. the budget was turned down every year for the last 3 years of school. so its hard to get recognized when you cant play. so i joined the navy at the age of 17. what were you doing at 17? and what kind of mark have you made? or are you still 17 thinking the world is going to hand you everything because you know it all and have done it all?

6 year veteran here ... and no one every handed me shit.

Bor, we're talking about "world class" scientist smart here and "hall of fame" professional athletes ... sorry you're not either.
 
Smart. Its more durable and (in most cases) more profitable

its also more pilosophically interesting. I´m more curious what its like to be incredibly well educated and have an IQ in the highest 99.999% and look at the world, interpreting it with that mind, than how it feels to run 100 meters in 9.12 seconds.

Anyone who would disagree on that is in my eyes a complete hedonist satanist swine.
 
PICK3 said:
6 year veteran here ... and no one every handed me shit.

Bor, we're talking about "world class" scientist smart here and "hall of fame" professional athletes ... sorry you're not either.


i still say both. and yes i am both smart and athletic. i may not be the best at one or the other but my whole point is you have to be both, not the same at both but both. i would rather be smarter than i am athletic but still have both. im not saying i am the god of both worlds. i am very happy and content with where i am at and where i am going.

listen, im not trying to bash anyone. a question was asked and i answered it with my personal view. your the one that jumped on me for my opinion. and i believe you can not argue over opinions because they are not facts. not many people are happy with where they are at in life. i for one am very happy with where i am. but it makes me happier to know where i am going. but im not going to be the rich billionair that dies early because he didnt excersise. why make billions if your not going to take care of yourself and have fun. sure we all want more than we have, but not many of us are willing to do what it takes to get there. i was pissed that i had to join the military while my friends went off to college. but i do not regret it in the very leased. anyone can go to college, not everyone can make it in the military. i have seen a lot of guys get out or get kicked out for stupid reasons. i had to get out for disability, i had no choice. i had 12 years in, i didnt want to leave but it has opened the door for me to go further than if i did stay in. i try to look ahead.

so lets call a truce and move on, there are too many assholes out there we can concentrate our negativity on. take it easy bro.
 
bigmann245 said:
so lets call a truce and move on, there are too many assholes out there we can concentrate our negativity on. take it easy bro.

Agreed! BTW, your accomplishments are pretty impressive.

Good luck in college.
 
A personal friend of mine (well- friend- hes like 55 years older than me, but ive spoken with him for a lot of hours over the last year) is a retired professor for Princeton University and now still, with the work he does ad libitum as a pasttime in the evenings now, a defining force in his particular field of physics. The field is theoretical physical cosmology- He studies the nature of the universe by method of rational analysis, rather than empirical findings. In 2002 he published a study that concluded the maximum mass any star could have, has to be 158 starunits. A year later infrared scans by the Hubble telescope showed that the largest stars in the Milky Way galaxy are roughly 158 units in mass, but this could not show it with the accuracy his book did, or explain it like he did.

He also studied the theoretical properties of singularities, even going so far as to analyse the interactions between different singularities.

He´s 74 yrs old, unwed and childless. Mutual friends and I agree he´s likely to be a lifelong closet homosexual, so conservative and categoric in his principles that he´d rather be loveless and lonely than admit to himself or the world that he´s queer- a complete failure in his darwinist hardline world view. He´s also obsessed with his (now deceased) mother.

I don´t know if his life has been a happy one, but it would seem obvious that happiness is not the highest goal in life. If it was, we should all be on drugs 24/7. They should put prozac in the water supply.
 
sigweed said:
are you serious?

these people need to make a living too. A PhD doesn't come with an automatic weekly paycheck. I'm sure MTS will back me up when I say that 99.9% of the smartest doctors, scientists, lawyers, businessmen, etc that are wealthy are logging serious hours at work, most likely considerably more than your average 9-5.

i don't care if you're stephen hawking, if you don't lift a finger then you won't achieve a thing

Sunday afternoon, 3:30 PM and I've been at work for 5 hours. So true bor - how far you go has so much to do with how bad you want it.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Sunday afternoon, 3:30 PM and I've been at work for 5 hours. So true bor - how far you go has so much to do with how bad you want it.


i agree 100%. no motivation means no way to make it anywhere.
 
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