if this dude is 6'10" how much do you think he weighs?

[SofaGeorge]

I think the reason why he didn't kill the FBI profiler in his cell is because he wasn't drunk!

Kemper is a very unique bird. I've seen many interviews with him. He has a genius level IQ... is very chatty and insightful.

He talked about his last 'pick up' before he turned himself in. He picked the girl up... and demonstrated to himself that he could control himself and not kill her. Then he turned himself in because he still didn't undestand what the beast was inside of him... or how to fully be sure it was under control. He's one of the very few serial killers ever to turn himself in as a way of ensuring that his crimes were stopped.

One of the interesting elements that comes out in interviews with Kemper and other serial killers is that even they are aware of the horrific nature of what they are doing... but they can't gain control of stopping it. (Hence the topomenagitis theory.)

 

[danielson]

how does someone get such an indepth psychological knowledge of women from being in a psychiatric unit for 5 years? fucking scary he was able to use the doctors knowledge against them

 

[SofaGeorge]

how does someone get such an indepth psychological knowledge of women from being in a psychiatric unit for 5 years? fucking scary he was able to use the doctors knowledge against them

It comes back to the same thing... he is really smart.

I've worked in the joint and usually inmates are stupid... true world class dummies... that is why they get caught in the first place. It is always unique and interesting when you meet highly intelligent inmates. They are the guys you learn from.

Years ago I met one inmate who crafted the most brilliant con game I had ever seen. He stole millions. It's hard to explain but it was a shipping and receiving scam where he would simply delay and reroute train shipments of goods... and fill the order with the next train shipment.

His crime was so brilliant that the courts agreed to cut his sentence to almost nothing if he would simply teach the fraud investigators how he did it. He walked with millions of stolen booty. Part of his deal was he didn't have to give the cash back. (They couldn't really claim it either. His plan was so detailed they couldn't pin point what was stolen.)

 

[doubles1]

his names edward something rite the ca serial killer that picked up college girls and killed em then killed his moms...

 

[Lumberg]

his names edward something rite the ca serial killer that picked up college girls and killed em then killed his moms...

Try actually reading some of the replies before responding to a thread next time.

 

[Burning_Inside]

Try actually reading some of the replies before responding to a thread next time.

Funniest post all week

 

[casavant]

That is wild. I wonder why that judge didn't oblidge I mean he asked for it. I could here the bleeding heart liberals now. That is just not human he deserves rights too. Yea, just like those girls deserved some too. Garbage him like a trash he is. Thats it throw him into a human size garbage disposal slowly.

Curling, torture should never, ever be condoned in our society no matter how much the son-of-a-bitch deserves it. With rare exception, serial killers grew up in extremely dysfuntional homes where they've already been subjected to emotional and physical abuse. Can you imagine a generation of little kids that not only grew up in abusive homes, but that were allowed to witness government sanctioned torture on their TV sets. Do you honestly think that would have a positive impact on the levels of violence in our society? Would that encourage sympathy for others?


I finished "Mindhunter", it was a good read. He also has a website [ www.johndouglasmindhunter.com ], with some really interesting articles. This guy has seen more acts of depravity and their aftermaths than damn near anyone, and he does not sympathize one bit with serial killers. He thinks they need to be executed. Not once, however, does he advocate public torture.

Calling the shots

Inadequacy is a factor in most serial killers. These men feel insignificant and powerless. And now, they figure, they can get it all back. They can get power by controlling others. They can feel important, like they've accomplished something.

They don't identify with their victims or feel any sympathy toward them. As they see it, they've been victims all their lives, dominated and controlled by other people. This is their chance to call the shots -- to decide who lives or dies and how someone should die.

Forget rehabilitation when it comes to serial killers. They have a different kind of thinking pattern than other people. You can't reprogram a brain like that with counseling. How could any treatment turn around that way of thinking? You basically just have to write them off.

http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com/articles/030209.php



Serial killers deserve to die

I argue that his victims never had a choice, so why should he? If I had one case to cite, one instance where a violent criminal at Maturino Resendiz's level was treated successfully and rehabilitated into a healthy human being, I might feel differently. But I know this: Serial killers cannot be rehabilitated. I'd stake my life on it.

So if he spends his life in a mental institution instead of being put to death, it will be because the jury feels that due to whatever debilitating, impairing mental disorder the defense will claim he has, they must act mercifully toward him and spare his life.

Serial killers don't deserve our mercy. For the murders they've committed, I believe they deserve to die. To prevent them from killing again, I believe they deserve to die. I don't apologize for those statements. I've looked into the eyes of so many serial killers and seen not just an utter lack of remorse but a frightening truth: If you let me out, I'll do it again.

http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com/articles/030201.php

 

[curling]

Well if you don't want torture em at least kill em. I mean let them know if you are caught serial killing you will be put to death. I still like the torture idea or killing them painfully. What do you think about grinding them to death?

 

[curling]

Cassavant, btw don't forget about the victoms families and loved ones. You always got to put your self in there shoes. What if it was your daughter or your wife or your mother. Would you not want the SOB tortured brutily as possible like what he did to your loved one?

 

[Robert Jan]

Torture is BS.

i say put them to death quickly and painlessly.
its not like they havent had enough pain in their lives. just get rid of them.