if 250 sust is too low...

[danrag]

if 250mg sust is too low, and i do not want to gain ANY water on my first cycle, what would be a sufficient dosage to put on some moderate gains without becoming bloated. i will be taking winstrol with it but i am not looking to be "huge." do you think 375 or 500mg a week would be low/high enough in order to gain some muscle and no water?

thanks

 

[dreamsoflowbodyfat]

Winstrol won't get you huge, 2 amps of sustanon will get you pretty big. You could probably expect around 20-30 pounds. How long are you going to do this for.

 

[dreamsoflowbodyfat]

thats 2 amps a week.

 

[danrag]

probably around 8-10 weeks. everyone says that 250mg a week is too low, but i am 5'9 and 170lbs. i dont want to bloat but some say that 250 may be sufficient for what i want to do. i want to remain cut, so i may just order EQ. any knowledge will be appreciated.

 

[danrag]

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[Tigerparks]

Mate, you're the same height as me. For my first cycle I was on 500mgs of Sust per week. Among other things. I got bad water retnetion and spots all over my back and face.
EVERYONE in work knew I was on AS. I gained about 20lbs once I came off and maintained about 11lbs.

For my second cycle (which I'm currently on) I'm using half that dosage (250mgs) per week, I'm currently on week 4 and I've put on 7-8lbs no noticable water retention and no spots!

I'm happy with that. Why don't you try lower dosages, if NO BLOAT is most important I'd say start off low, cause you can always increase it.

 

[HugeWannabe]

Everyone reacts differently to AS, I was 170 starting my first cycle of 500mg sust/week 1-12 and 50mg winny ED 6-12, i had a reasonable amount of water retention but that went away when i ran .5 mg of arimidex with it, solution = run arimidex/liquidex the entire time. I didn't get any red spots on me or anything like, I gained 28 kept just over 20. Its all about being informed, doing the research. Read up on coming off right and with the right supplementation. As for your dosing thats your call, I have told you my experience, hope this helps

 

[Just_Grow]

250mgs works for me (10 weeks), diet right and tain hard you'll get your gains.

 

[dreamsoflowbodyfat]

Have you gotten good results with just 250mg a week. Solid, noticeable muscle gain?

 

[FOZY]

get soem arimidex......take care of the bloat I just ran 6-700 mg od test and I had NO bloat with .25 Arimidex

 

[mvmaxx]

Listen to FOZY, the key is to run armidex/liquidex through your entire cycle. I'm running .50 - .75mg/ED on sust @ 500mg, decca @ 300mg and dbol @ 30mg and I have ZERO bloat. I don't look bloated at all just bigger in all the right places. 15lbs in 3 weeks and my wife still hasn't noticed. If I wasn't on the liquidex I know I'd be up about 20-25lbs easy.

 

[Counterstrike]

I plan on 200-250mg a week of test prop and 25mg of winny eD i plan to run i with .25d of armindex and ALA and primerose oil.

 

[danrag]

thanks for the replies guys, i think i might start with 250 a week, and maybe for 2-3 weeks go for 500, and then back to 250. i guess i will run the arimidex the whole time just to be safe. how much arimidex you think would be sufficient?

 

[BigAndy69]

thanks for the replies guys, i think i might start with 250 a week, and maybe for 2-3 weeks go for 500, and then back to 250. i guess i will run the arimidex the whole time just to be safe. how much arimidex you think would be sufficient?

you need more research. You want to build up to 500mg a week for 2-3 weeks? and you didn't even know what arimidex is?

Anyway, 0.25mg Ed will be enough. Keep it at 250 through out the cycle.

 

[danrag]

big andy,

i knew what it was and have read lots about it, i did not know if i needed it for only 250mg week of sust

and why would i not be alright to pyramid?

 

[genarr3]

big andy,
i knew what it was and have read lots about it, i did not know if i needed it for only 250mg week of sust

At 250mgs/week of Sustenon it wouldn't be absolutely needed. But you said - "i do not want to gain ANY water" So the only way this is going to happen with test is to use Arimidex/Liquidex. 25mgs/ED should be enough.

Instead of trying to decide between 250 and 500mgs - BTW I think you'd do fine with 250 - have you considered doing 250mgs every 4 - 5 days? It makes for a good compromise between 250 and 500.

 

[danrag]

yeh i have heard people say do it every 5 days, i am still deciding though. my other thoughts are to use equipoise at 400 a week.

we will see what happens.

you think the gains would be that much different if i did it every 5 days?

 

[robsatx]

I do not understand 250?

Each amp is 100ml - do you use 2 .5 amps for each shot? why would you not just do 3 amps? I am missing something here?
Thanks

 

[padycakes_16]

sust usually comes in 250 mgs

u probally think 100 mg/ml because youre doing primo!!!

 

[anabolicann]

Re: I do not understand 250?

Each amp is 100ml - do you use 2 .5 amps for each shot? why would you not just do 3 amps? I am missing something here?
Thanks

Sustanon 250 is 250mgs per ml. what kind of gear do you have maybe cycpinate thats 100mgs per ml.

 

[Audio8]

250mg os sust/week is fine for a newbie...you'll gain...just know that the proper way to take sust is in 3 doses, split up throughout the week....so if you want to take 250mg/week, you should split up the amp into 3....sust is not really a great choice for a low dose cycle either..you won't be getting full use of the prop in the sust....but hey, like i said before, shoot 1 amp/week and you'll still gain...but just know that there are better solutions out there that will pack on more meat, but it doesn't sound like you want to pack on too much.

And take .25mg arimidex/day for the bloat issue.