ideas on how i can take my winny and var

[Jroxxx]

How old are you Schmie? Stats? Did you start already? Do you have your PCT lined out? Know what PCT is? Just making sure...

ok im 34 and a personal trainer 6'5" at 232lbs at 18% body fat and have done 2 cycles be4 .the frist was winny 50 mg depot eod and anavar 25 mg ed 4 8 weeks.then i did my next cycle 1 year later and it was50mg winny depot eod and cyiponate transdermal cream with crysin in it and serostim hgh at 6 iu,s a day then down to 3 because of swelling in the hands ,for 8 weeks as well with 4 weeks of novidex at the end ,the last cycle work realy well to harden me up.but that was 2 years ago so i have 50mg winny tabs and 2.5mg anavar tabs .i just want 8 pounds or so fo hard muscle .what do u think,oh whats pct???? and thx for helping

 

[Jroxxx]

ok, i'm here to help, not badger.

if all you have is winny and var, then i would hold off until you can get some test. i'm assuming your 50mg tabs are bd?? what are your goals, bulk, cut , strength?? sounds like your just shooting for strength. i would add in test prop eod.

set it up like this....
prop-100mg eod.
winny-50mg ed
var-15-20mg ed

i hope you have enough var, that shit is expensive. the guy i go through, when you first look at the price, your like "well damn, thats cheap" but when you add up what you need, your like "well shit, thats fuckin high". but var is never cheap anyway, good luck bro

a-bomb

thx u for helping shmie

 

[loserdude]

my friend, if you don't do any pct, your fingernails will fall off
no lie.



ok, ok, all kidding aside. personally, I think you should diet and shed off excess bodyfat to "better" your physique. frankly, I highly doubt that you'll see any significant improvement with those 2 drugs if you have double digits bodyfat wise.
if you disregarded what I mentioned up top (I'm certain you did) -- here's my recommendation. I would definitely only use one of the two and save the other for later. I'd use anavar at 30mgs for 8 weeks with a clean diet. You should shed off a bit of weight, while gaining quality muscle if everything is in check... and phenomenal strength increase.

PCT = post cycle theraphy. to kick-start your hpta. both drugs are suppressive.
Take 150mg of clomid on day 1 (wait 12hrs after you take your last anavar dosage), 100mg day 2-4, 50mg day 5-21. there's other ways you can go about on this (HCG, nolvadex, armi/l-dex, etc.) key is to do your research and have EVERYTHING ready prior to starting the cycle. check out the post cycle theraphy board for in-depth/specific question/answers you may have. good luck.

 

[Slyder190]

My advice, try splitting both those 17AA's into two seperate cycles.

 

[Jroxxx]

my friend, if you don't do any pct, your fingernails will fall off
no lie.



ok, ok, all kidding aside. personally, I think you should diet and shed off excess bodyfat to "better" your physique. frankly, I highly doubt that you'll see any significant improvement with those 2 drugs if you have double digits bodyfat wise.
if you disregarded what I mentioned up top (I'm certain you did) -- here's my recommendation. I would definitely only use one of the two and save the other for later. I'd use anavar at 30mgs for 8 weeks with a clean diet. You should shed off a bit of weight, while gaining quality muscle if everything is in check... and phenomenal strength increase. thx u i never heard of pct cycleing be4 very intresting..i will do the reseach but ! what if i dont use the pct in the cycle of var will the gains be less????

PCT = post cycle theraphy. to kick-start your hpta. both drugs are suppressive.
Take 150mg of clomid on day 1 (wait 12hrs after you take your last anavar dosage), 100mg day 2-4, 50mg day 5-21. there's other ways you can go about on this (HCG, nolvadex, armi/l-dex, etc.) key is to do your research and have EVERYTHING ready prior to starting the cycle. check out the post cycle theraphy board for in-depth/specific question/answers you may have. good luck.

thx u i never heard of pct cycleing be4 very intresting..i will do the reseach but ! what if i dont use the pct in the cycle of var will the gains be less????

 

[IronWuu]

thx u i never heard of pct cycleing be4 very intresting..i will do the reseach but ! what if i dont use the pct in the cycle of var will the gains be less????

Check the Post Cycle Recovery Forum...

PCT is basically to help you get OUT of HTPA supression after a cycle, and to help you keep more of your gains from during the cycle as well.

Good luck! And PLEASE do not start without knowing what PCT is.

 

[Jroxxx]

Check the Post Cycle Recovery Forum...

PCT is basically to help you get OUT of HTPA supression after a cycle, and to help you keep more of your gains from during the cycle as well.

Good luck! And PLEASE do not start without knowing what PCT is.

ok i understand about hcg and clormid and novedex to come off a cycle so your natural test leves go back to normal but people r talking about doing clormid all the way threw .now i thought that anti est drugs were for more anoblic roids like test and d-bol not anavar or winny so do i realy need clorimid or hcg for those 2 drugs ,i read that they r not heavy anabolic roids that they should not supress your test leavels when u come off unless you take a high dose for long periods of time .well guyz fill me in some more and thx u for all the help shmie