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migcor

migcor

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Hello everybody.

I'm 32 years old and have been lifting consistently for about 2 years.I'm 5'11 and 208 lbs.I think my bodyfat count is around 13% and have been eating pretty good(chicken,fish,and lots of turkey)except for the weekends when i slip up.I like to gain some xtra mass but without gettin swollen up.

My first cycle was straight winstrol depot.Made some good gains and got pretty shredded. Now I'm going for round 2. Here are my ingredients Deca qv200, sus 250 and winstrol depot.Enough for 10 weeks.How and what should I mix?Deca/sus or win/sus or all three?Also should I just do 8 weeks?

I been reading the board for a while and see that you have given much needed help to others and are a good group to talk to.

Any advice or help is greatly appreciated.
 
migcor said:
Hello everybody.

I'm 32 years old and have been lifting consistently for about 2 years.I'm 5'11 and 208 lbs.I think my bodyfat count is around 13% and have been eating pretty good(chicken,fish,and lots of turkey)except for the weekends when i slip up.I like to gain some xtra mass but without gettin swollen up.

My first cycle was straight winstrol depot.Made some good gains and got pretty shredded. Now I'm going for round 2. Here are my ingredients Deca qv200, sus 250 and winstrol depot.Enough for 10 weeks.How and what should I mix?Deca/sus or win/sus or all three?Also should I just do 8 weeks?

I been reading the board for a while and see that you have given much needed help to others and are a good group to talk to.

Any advice or help is greatly appreciated.
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when you say enough for 10 wks....are you intending on taking sus at 500mgs? deca at 400mgs?? For this cycle do you have your PCT as well??
 
Well I was thinkin sus at 250 a week and then in the fourth and fifth 500.But what i'm not sure of is what to combine to get the best results?
 
Swordfish forgive me for sounding ignorant but what is PCT? I was thinkin 200 mg of deca and 250 of sus weekly.
 
Swordfish hit it right on! Do not start this cycle until you can answer your own question complete;y, What is PCT? . Also when you do get ready to run it, I would double the dose on test and deca, 500 and 400, then you can run winny like last 5-6 weeks.
 
migcor said:
Swordfish forgive me for sounding ignorant but what is PCT? I was thinkin 200 mg of deca and 250 of sus weekly.
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You have given out too much Karma in the last 24 hours, try again later.
You're lucky this time :Chef: :tuc:
 
Thank you much swordfish for that link.Those friggin meat heads that I hang out with told me my body would restore itself to its natural state.Thanks again.Is it easy to get a hold of HCG AND NOVALDEX OR CLOMID?

Ruggermu so how long should I run the cycle for and in when do I start the winstrol?
 
migcor said:
Thank you much swordfish for that link.Those friggin meat heads that I hang out with told me my body would restore itself to its natural state.Thanks again.Is it easy to get a hold of HCG AND NOVALDEX OR CLOMID?

Ruggermu so how long should I run the cycle for and in when do I start the winstrol?
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well those meatheads prob loose a lot after there cycle... where you got you deca/sust/ winny... just ask him if he has any hcg, nolva, or clomid. also to combat progesterone sides causes from the deca , dostinex can be used. still gotta read up a little more so u know more than what drugs to take to get big and not what sides i get from certain compounds. plenty of info here, search it up :)
cycle should be at least 10 weeks. can run winny right up to the day before pct
 
Sweed do you think the runnin all three is a good idea or maybe just Deca/sus or Sus/winstrol? Want to get big but stay ripped if possible.I read don't do deca without test and that test would swell me up.
 
migcor said:
Sweed do you think the runnin all three is a good idea or maybe just Deca/sus or Sus/winstrol? Want to get big but stay ripped if possible.I read don't do deca without test and that test would swell me up.
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well ill tell ya for my 2nd cycle im running test/deca/dbol... and im 10 years younger than you. to help test bloat, you can run arimadex throughout. test did not bloat me during my first, ( test E 500 mgs) . depends on the person. sust/deca is a classic bulker.. but adding in the winny could be a little overkill.. could just do sust / winny, or sust/ deca..
 
ruggermu said:
Swordfish hit it right on! Do not start this cycle until you can answer your own question complete;y, What is PCT? . Also when you do get ready to run it, I would double the dose on test and deca, 500 and 400, then you can run winny like last 5-6 weeks.
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This is good advice! Swordfish's link is a great source. Sust 500mg and Deca 400mg. ;)
 
If you had to make a choice what would you go with? Want to pack on some mass but stay ripped. Do my goals have more to do with my diet and training and not my gear?
 
migcor said:
Sweed is it not a good idea to run deca by itself?
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well havn't you heard of the dreadful "deca dick" if your married, you wife might not like it. but some people don't get that side.. but for the people that do, then run at least the amount of deca (mgs) .
Diet, Training, Rest should be number 1 .. AS is only a supplement. You can acheive goals through diet and training, but if you're looking to add some mass (no fat) then AS can be a good route.
 
I'm married and I don't want to take a chance with "deca dick" if I'm not bangin wife then she's gonna think I'm bangin someone else.Then my she'll throw my gear out the window.Think I'll run deca and sus and use the winny later.Thanks for your help.
 
migcor said:
Thank you much swordfish for that link.Those friggin meat heads that I hang out with told me my body would restore itself to its natural state.Thanks again.Is it easy to get a hold of HCG AND NOVALDEX OR CLOMID?

Ruggermu so how long should I run the cycle for and in when do I start the winstrol?
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Wow. There is some bad info still floating around out there...

Research. Here and elsewhere. Nolva and clomid are easy enough to come by, and are fairly cheap too. HCG is a bit more cash, but many swear by it.

As you learn about gear and PCT, you will soon figure out what is right, wrong, grey area, and outright dangerous. You make your own call, but to be informed is the key. That is EF is here for.

Why not just go with the sust for 10 weeks to see how your body responds? You don't want multiple sides on two compounds and then not know which is causing you problems. I personally won't touch deca. I like my junk to work. You can finish up with the Winstrol since you know you repsond well to it.

Good luck - and stick around.


Bluesman
 
Bluesman thanks for the reply. however, when you say sus for 10 weeks i understand but how do i finish up with winstrol. Basically when would I start with the winstrol?What week?
 
swordfish151 said:
ha ha ha ha ha..you complaining..i'll hit you with some red too...nah im just messin...what did you do small fry?
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i think everyone thinks im an alter ego
 
migcor said:
Bluesman thanks for the reply. however, when you say sus for 10 weeks i understand but how do i finish up with winstrol. Basically when would I start with the winstrol?What week?
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Blues said it right...Id just do sus 10 weeks start at 250 for 3 weeks if all is good id go 500..250 isnt that impressive..keep some nolva and clomid on hand because its slow acting, shit can creep up on yea with out notice...So they say..My body tolerates just about anything with out sides got to love that....
 
I'd like to thank everybody who replied.I think I'll do the sus for the 10 weeks and see what happens and save the deca/winstrol depot for another time.
 
migcor said:
Bluesman thanks for the reply. however, when you say sus for 10 weeks i understand but how do i finish up with winstrol. Basically when would I start with the winstrol?What week?
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I would day use the winstrol for the last 4-6 weeks. (You generally do not want to go past 6 weeks with a 17AA oral - winstrol, Dbol, Anabol) So you could finish the last few weeks of your cycle with Winny, and harden up.


Bluesman
 
migcor said:
Thank you much swordfish for that link.Those friggin meat heads that I hang out with told me my body would restore itself to its natural state.Thanks again.Is it easy to get a hold of HCG AND NOVALDEX OR CLOMID?

Ruggermu so how long should I run the cycle for and in when do I start the winstrol?
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http://www.ag-guys.com/home.html

thats where you can get your nolva, clen, t3, clomid etc. great guys, very fast shipping and turnaround.
 
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