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I wanted some more feedback on lot # 1582042. I remember haxed out and some others were having problems with this lot. I just got some and there are that lot#. The 1 is smidged on the amp thats the only problem I can see with the amp. Is anyone on this batch having good results or what.. I'm gonna taste it in a little while...By looking at them they don't seem overfilled either.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
I will bump for you, b/c i heard this concern a while back and when i got my shipment in, low and behold 5 of my amps were that same lot #..the oil actually looks a yellow color when compared to the other lot #'s

hope to find the true answers
 
Allright, WTF!!!
Charcheck, you just reminded me to check all my amps, I have another one in front of me lot # 2390062.. I stand the 2 next to eachother and the 2390062 is noticeably taller and clearer printing on it not smudged at all.. The two amps next to eachother are not the same at all. If its coming from a human grade company that should not happen correct?????? Also, the 1582042 is more yellow than the other one.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
I just unwrapped all my shit I have 12 of the lot # 15, 11 lot #23, and 8 lot # 325809020907. The 3258 is written and below it the 0902 0907 is written. If I stand 2 of the 32 next to each other they are noticably different in height, when I stand one of each lot #'s next to eachother they are all oddly filled, different shades, and different size amps. I'm guessing the 23 are fine cause their all consistent in size and are more clear.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
I have some of each of those lots and just started with the 0902 last week! To early to tell but no tingly taste and no pain at all!
Anyone else
 
I also want to make clear that I don't think this has anything to do with my source. Whatever reason for these variations is happening on a much higher level.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
I was on lot# 1582042 for 8 weeks and I was less than pleased with the results. I recently switched to 3507 1002 1007.

I noticed that the amps in lot# 1582042 were uneven and the amps in lot# 3507 1002 1007 were perfectly straight across when put side by side.

I recently switched about a week ago to the other lot number and I intend on posting my results in a couple of weeks.

There have been a ton of complaints both in my area and on the boards about that lot#

I also have your other lot Mad Max (3258 0902 0907)

I will post the pics of my icn's
 
No clone- i just saw your pics of the amps, mine look the same, its almost comical how different they each are in size color shape, and how their filled. I don't get it cause they are coming from very legit trusted guys who must be getting screwed from their supliers???? There has to be something about this. My amps that start with 23 have to be fine, they look the exact same as the last cycle of them I did. I will taste one tomm. hopefully.
Drrman- interesting the 3 set of # ones look identical in color and amp size as the 15 ones.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
mad max, you think the 15 ones are good too? i got a bunch, with an assortment of lots, do you saying the 15 ones are good or bad?
 
I don't want to make any solid statements now cuase I just got them and haven't tried them yet. All i'm saying is the 15's are identical to the 3 # set that I got.
Drmann, are your amps different heights and varied in how much their filled? The only reason i'm worried cause of the discussion started last week about the 15's getting alot of complaints about them. So when I took a close look at mine I noticed alot of variations in each # sets.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
im not giving them a bad name they did me good my last cyccle and im using them again.....I just asked about the source becasue my source gets em staright from the factory so if itsthe same guy no way its fake
 
geargie- if you ever read any of my post I always rate ICN's as the # 1 rated test and my personal favorite. That is not going to stop me if I notice way too many variations in the amps and the actual color. My e-mail is down but I will find out if their gettim them direct. My guy is domestic but i'm almost positive their coming from yug..
And georgia, even the most reptablejuice gets faked.
Fozy, since you know you get them straight from the factory do you have any of the lot#'s that I have???And do you have any ampps different heights?
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
i know this, my sex drive is WAY down to be on 1 gram of test per week, thats all i can say, not usual for me
 
I dont know the lots from my last cycle since i used them all but i gained around 17 LBS which I think eq wouldnt do alone........

My buddy has some from my source ill go over and check his lots tonight and get back to you..........

I know they come form the fasctory because my guy lives in yugo, why would you fake ICN's where A. They are made and B. they are legal and dirt cheep at that.......so i dont think he would lie about getting them from the factory

Il post again tonight on the lots

foz
 
Fozy- that would be great if you could check on that.
Drrman- that has been a big complaint lately from a few guys who are running a gram a week of just the ICN's.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
you guys are starting to scare me, I switched from QV to ICNs because of the quality, now Im hearing this shit. WTF!!! Will someone please let me know what the deal is with the 236 lot #?
 
QV too ICNS's great switch IMO

also his edocrine system could be fine if the ICN's are fake...400mg of eq can kill your sex drive

how many MGS of test, you sound pretty experienced since your useing GH so thast a good indicator that there not good
 
FOZY said:
QV too ICNS's great switch IMO
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I thought it was a great switch, but this shit is scaring me. I switched 2 weeks ago, so the gains I am seeing are still from the QV, not the ICNs, if the ICNs are fake I wouldnt know yet.

Someone please clear this shit up:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
The machine- from over at the counterfit board someone is taking the 236 batch and their suppose to be working just fine. Also, 2 weeks and the ICN's should be working so if your still seeing results your good to go.People are trying to get in touch with their guys who buy direct from the factory and hopefully they can clear up some of these questions.
 
If anyone has any doubt whatsoever about the legitimacy of their gear, then you have a LOSER for a source and need to find a new one (don't ask me for one, sorry!). If you have a good source then you should never have to question whether what you have is fake or real.
 
Good point but everone is human and the source does not make the gear so who know what happens in between him getting the stuff. I think this is turning into more of a quality subject than all out fake. How do you explain several guys running a gram of test enthate and actually loosing their sex drive.. And the people getting these have solid sources.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
I see your point Mad Max and I wasn't trying to get off point or be an asshole.

he two different 'guys' I deal with get their stuff DIRECTLY from the factory. It goes factory, then 'middle man' (works for or at factory) then source. There's sort of an unbreakable chain of custody there with a relationship like that. It nearly guarentees 99.9% of what you are getting is legit. There's always that .01% chance though I guess...

Any good source also would comp you as well and let you substitute for another product. In the meantime although that doesn't solve the root cause of the problem, it'll keep your cycle going and not fuck everything up.
 
No problem bro, my e-mail is just fucked up and I can't get in touch with my guy. I am almost positive he gets straight from yug...Once I find that out I will feel better.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
well, im experienced enough especially with my own body that i know my endocrine system is not shot. second, i can still get it up, i still like sex, but not "driven" like i should be on 1gram of test, i've done enough cycles and enough shit and i know one thing, no matter what the fuck im on or how fucked my endocrine system is, one gram of test should make me want to fuck everything in site!! ICN's are the fucking problem, i think some suck, some are ok, but all are worse than the first ones
 
and by the way, my shit is only middled by one guy between me and the factory, i got pics of him standing besides 10's of thousands of ICN's, i think the company is the problem here, not counterfeiters, but company's quality and product going to shit
 
and by the way, my shit is only middled by one guy between me and the factory, i got pics of him standing besides 10's of thousands of ICN's, i think the company is the problem here, not counterfeiters, but company's quality and product going to shit
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You may be right DRRman. I just didn't think that there was (or still is) all that great of a chance of that happening. You never know though.
 
They are stopping production for a while fo LABEL CHANGES.. Maybe its possible their having some problems and have to fix them. I dunno, but something is going on here and I still want to find out what. Is there anyone close to someone who works at the factory who would know?? I'm convinced their not fakes since our guys have to be getting them for almost nothing, and I bet all this talk is making alot of people re-think getting ICN now until we find answers.. BUMP FOR ANSWERS!!!!
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Drrman I am with you bro...I know our source is good to go, seen that pic too...pretty cool huh..I just noticed that difference in the way the amps look, out of my 25, only 5 were the 158 lot #, and that yellowish color threw me...but shit who knows...
 
DRRman said:
well, im experienced enough especially with my own body that i know my endocrine system is not shot. second, i can still get it up, i still like sex, but not "driven" like i should be on 1gram of test, i've done enough cycles and enough shit and i know one thing, no matter what the fuck im on or how fucked my endocrine system is, one gram of test should make me want to fuck everything in site!! ICN's are the fucking problem, i think some suck, some are ok, but all are worse than the first ones
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what lot # is this you talk of?
 
i have some of every lot number it seems, i don't think any of them are as good as the one's i did last summer
 
whast up

max the lot my buddy has is 3528 0902 0907

I talked to my source and he said the bacth in question is an older batch and he thinks all the fuss is BS......I emailed him the link so mabey hell shed som light , hes a straight up guy
 
Thanks fozy, hopefully someone has straight answers. If he thinks an older batch is in question then I think we are right to make a fuss about this. Probably all amps are uneven a little but the obvious color difference is what gets me. And people at a gram a week and loosing sex drive.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Mad Max said:
Thanks fozy, hopefully someone has straight answers. If he thinks an older batch is in question then I think we are right to make a fuss about this. Probably all amps are uneven a little but the obvious color difference is what gets me. And people at a gram a week and loosing sex drive.
---PEACE---Mad Max
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what lot#s were these guys on that you keep talking about losing their sex drive? all different or the same?
 
Well drrman is on all different lots and there was a thread last week and they were all on the 15 lot#...i'm goona look up who was taking what and get them to post info on this thread.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
i dont know if id judge the amp sizes for legitamcy....i dont think there amp making technique are all that sophisticated....ICN amps remind me orf the first cycle i did with those white writing Nile sus that looked fakes as hell......no exp no lot Just said NILE SUSTANON in white letters with 250mg ml..every amp was a differetn size and IMPOSIBLE to open MUCH LIKE the ICN's so I dont think thats the detremining factor...........mabey therer shutting down to get up to date labelling and amps? ? ?
 
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this is straight from my "friend"..........

I've just read the thread in question and as I said -
BS... Jesus you're all seems to forget where those
amps are coming from... they are coming from one of
the most unstable countries in the world... Somebody
said in the thread like ICNs are human grade product
so there shouldn't be variations on the amps, labels,
boxes design...etc. THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I EVER
HEARD!!! Quote me on that!!!


"ICN Galenika" or nowadays-just "Galenika AD" is a
>Yugo Company located about 10 minutes drive from where
>I live. Over the last 10 years they changed the look
>of their product so many times then even I who use
>their products over that 10 years lost track of all
>the variations. And I'm talking about:
>
>1. the shape, size and lettering on the amps (7 that I
>know of)
>2. the design of the box (5 that I know of)
>3. the name of the company (Galenika, ICN,
>ICN-Galenika, Galenika AD)
>4. the logo setup (5)
>5. the color of the liquid - there were two batches
>about two-three years ago with yellowish liquid
>instead of the clear... I asked the guy who works
>there about that and he said that they were using the
>different oil in the solvent... that is all to it. I
>used those myself and had great results as always.
>
>Now, I really don’t know why would anybody make fakes
>when that would be much more expensive than to simply
>go to the pharmacy or even cheaper, order them
>directely from the factory through some private
>pharmacy… I am 100% sure that there is no fake ICNs!
>At least not in Yugo as it would be absolutely
>pointless.
I will try to attach scan with some amp variations I
made some time ago... (zipped). You’ll notice the two
of them filled with yellowish liquid…and they are all
100% legit… .......................................



This should end the thread.......And ill vouch for this guy 100% Ihave used Icns in the past with great results

I have the scan if you want email me I'm not platnum so I cant post it

Well i hope it all works out for you max and otheres who are having trouble...mabey your source is getting fakes, I hop it all works out


foz

foz
 
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOZY, your guy deff, knows what he is talking about. And that explains the color variation, and all other questions. I would not have found that info out which makes this borad in-valuable for pulling together and getting info. Thank your guy for us, and karma for fozy.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
FOZY said:
this is straight from my "friend"..........

I've just read the thread in question and as I said -
BS... Jesus you're all seems to forget where those
amps are coming from... they are coming from one of
the most unstable countries in the world... Somebody
said in the thread like ICNs are human grade product
so there shouldn't be variations on the amps, labels,
boxes design...etc. THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I EVER
HEARD!!! Quote me on that!!!


"ICN Galenika" or nowadays-just "Galenika AD" is a
>Yugo Company located about 10 minutes drive from where
>I live. Over the last 10 years they changed the look
>of their product so many times then even I who use
>their products over that 10 years lost track of all
>the variations. And I'm talking about:
>
>1. the shape, size and lettering on the amps (7 that I
>know of)
>2. the design of the box (5 that I know of)
>3. the name of the company (Galenika, ICN,
>ICN-Galenika, Galenika AD)
>4. the logo setup (5)
>5. the color of the liquid - there were two batches
>about two-three years ago with yellowish liquid
>instead of the clear... I asked the guy who works
>there about that and he said that they were using the
>different oil in the solvent... that is all to it. I
>used those myself and had great results as always.
>
>Now, I really don’t know why would anybody make fakes
>when that would be much more expensive than to simply
>go to the pharmacy or even cheaper, order them
>directely from the factory through some private
>pharmacy… I am 100% sure that there is no fake ICNs!
>At least not in Yugo as it would be absolutely
>pointless.
I will try to attach scan with some amp variations I
made some time ago... (zipped). You’ll notice the two
of them filled with yellowish liquid…and they are all
100% legit… .......................................



This should end the thread.......And ill vouch for this guy 100% Ihave used Icns in the past with great results

I have the scan if you want email me I'm not platnum so I cant post it

Well i hope it all works out for you max and otheres who are having trouble...mabey your source is getting fakes, I hop it all works out


foz

foz
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Great post fozy... we all hate to have to question gear that has always been regarded as reliable. It's good this got resolved.
 
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Well I agree that a source in yugo should know his shit about icn's but dont forget he is a source that sells the very product you are questioning. If I worked for FORD the very same company that writes my checks I wouldn't be talking shit about thier cars.

Anyway, I currently know 3 people (all friends of mine) that question the legitimacy of thier icn's or the quality of the particular batch. I was on lot 15 for 8 weeks along with my bro's and they have all had the same result's. #1 no increase in sex drive #2 no weight gain! not even water and a bad diet cant do that.#3 no strength gains and that particular batch came straight from a very well known bro in yugo.

I switched about 10 days ago to 3507 1002 1007 from a totally different yugo bro and will keep everyone informed of any changes.
 
thing is there so cheep in yugo it was cost a counterfiter more money to fake then run down to the pharmacie annd just sell it.........know what i mean, if there nit comming direct from yugo then it could be questoned mabey there knocking face ones of in New York but I just cant see someone faking amps in Yugo to lose out on money ? ? ? Mabey the factory had a bad batch but I dont think any Yugo source in there right mind would fave Icn"s

As far as the ford analagie thats like saying if you work for ford and you get a ford for 20,000 and sell it to a guy for 30,00 or you could make a fake ford, and not buy extreme bulk quantititeis in material and get one for 30,000 and youf have to sell it for 30,00 since thats the going rate.......wouldnt make much scence, why not just go to the plante and grab a reel one ????
 
I spoke with a bulk supplier from Yugo and he told me the same thing. He told me that lot # was an older lot but that they come so cheap it wouldn't make sense to fake them.
 
well fellas i dont care what you guys say, i have been taking 500mg for 6 weeks with 400mg EQ, and my weight has stayed the same, i'm only referring to the lot #158...42. i love icn's but this batch is not legit, no way no how! no bloat , nothing , without doing anything, water weight alone would put tleast 5-10lbs alone. lets hear more respones about this batch mine came from CZ
 
I switched about 10 days ago to 3507 1002 1007 from a totally different yugo bro and will keep everyone informed of any changes.
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no clone - How have your results been on lot 3507 1002 1007? It's been a while since anyone's posted on this thread so I thought that I would check to see how that lot is doing for you.
 
chakarov said:


no clone - How have your results been on lot 3507 1002 1007? It's been a while since anyone's posted on this thread so I thought that I would check to see how that lot is doing for you.
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Sorry bro's I havent been around much lately. Any way I gained an additional 14lbs since switching lot's and strength dramatically increased. There was no chang in my diet or training regimen either!

I have been on many different boards that complain about 1582042. They most likely aren't fakes..........just a bad batch.
 
Fuck! Why? Why does this have to happen every time I start to begin a cycle. I can feel some roid rage starting already! I am starting a cycle next week. Just checked my lot number ... 1582042. Looks just the same as the picture above. So basically what you are all telling me is that my gear is shit!

Please be carefull what you say about this. I recieved these from a very reliable source also, now I am thinking of returning these. This is going to open up a whole can of worms. Never fails!

Mavy
 
Lets re-phrase this .... has anyone at all out there had any positive results on the 1582042 batch number?

Mavy
 
Sorry Mavi, but I have seen nothing but negative remarks regarding that lot#. Whether you recieved them from a reliable source or not, i would not use them, they are shit, your source probably has no idea that they are a shit batch. If he will take them back, send them back and get something else.
 
This happens way more than we like to admit.
most times the source is as unaware as the buyer.
Let your source know because he's also been had.
Most times they will try to make it right.
 
Same lot #, same results, source says get them tested and prove they are fake before anything. So pretty much I'm screwed with these underdosed ICN"s. Sucks.
 
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