I was told that a first cycle should be test only...

[youlikeadajuice?]

To see how your body reacts to the test.


So I'm 3 weeks in. But I'm looking ahead to a summer cutting cycle(saving $$$).

What factors should I take into considerations. I want to cut, but I'm not really into using huge doses of several diff types of gear.

Could I get a voice of reason, to give me some advice.

 

[youlikeadajuice?]

and should I be saving money for clen?

 

[DerekRF]

I'm in the middle of a cutting cycle using EQ and the T-Rex/YES combo. Two weeks in, already lost seven pounds. EQ is pretty cheap so it's a good budget muscle-saver. Shouldn't run you more than two hundred bucks all together. (Unless you plan on Nolva and Clomid)

 

[biggeek]

To see how your body reacts to the test.


So I'm 3 weeks in. But I'm looking ahead to a summer cutting cycle(saving $$$).

What factors should I take into considerations. I want to cut, but I'm not really into using huge doses of several diff types of gear.

Could I get a voice of reason, to give me some advice.

Here's what I would do.. of course your gonna get a million different opinions but I was pretty overweight after my last cycle.. I was about 200lbs.. 20%bf.. i had a high bf% before the cycle and i just bulked up more... and i've since cut down to a MUCH leaner 185lb.. anyway.. this cycle shouldn't set you back much if you can get it all from the right places..

Anavar 30-40mg/day for 8-10weeks - anavar is great for overall hardness and lean muscle gains.. most gains made on anavar cycles are kept.. even though with a cutting cycle you may not gain any weight.. but your body composition can drastically change.. supplementing with creatine during var usage is a good idea and can further help gains and also having a liver supp like milk thistle is advised..

T3 - 6 weeks- starting with 25mcg a day.. and quickly ramping up to 75-100mcg per day.. if you feel like your loosing muscle (which you shouldn't).. eat more protein and take 10mg more var.. should counteract it.. T3 can REALLY speed up your metabolism.. or you can run it below 25mcg per day without really shutting down natural thyroid output and just put yourself in hyperthyoid state.. that's what i've done and it worked EXTREMELY well..

Clen - 7 weeks - starting with 40-60mcg per day.. depending on how you react to stimulants.. and go as high as you feel comfortable with.. probably in the 160mcg range or so.. having supplemental potassium and taurine will help with cramps and shakes.. trust me.. they are cheap and VERY worth it..

Ketotifen - 7weeks - 1.5-2mg per day at night.. can cause some hunger.. but var usually supress appetite well.. another GREAT reason that var is good for a cutter.. keto will help upregulate the same receptors that clen downregulates.. so you can run the clen for an indefinate period of time.. and it will still be effective.. i love keto as well because it helps me sleep great.. if you can't get ahold of the keto.. than just run the clen 2weeks on/2off with something like T-rex in between.. but run the clen past the T3 if you plan on going high with the T3 so that when you thyroid is shut down and recovering you won't have a massive rebound in weight..

Well... that's what worked for me.. especially the t3/var/clen... has been amazing honestly.. i've done winny before instead of var.. still was a great cycle.. but the joint pain was insane.. var is much better imo with much less sides and can be gotten for cheaper or just as cheap if you know where to look.. but anyway.. just my thoughts.. good luck man..

-BigGeek-

 

[youlikeadajuice?]

my source says around*************...????!!
I hate the thought of using orals.

 

[biggeek]

my source says around 400 for that much var...????!!
I hate the thought of using orals.

LoL.. find a new source man... i can get enough var for that cycle a quarter of what you can.. and it is LEGIT.. do some more research.. and no i'm not giving out any names.. but why do you not like orals.. you could go with primo instead of var.. still think var is the better option but primo costs a pretty penny as well.. you could use winny if you can get it cheaper.. but winny over a few weeks will start to take its toll on you and you may be buff and cut.. but your joints will hurt so bad you won't be able to lift much.. ha ha.. sucks.. oh well

 

[youlikeadajuice?]

What about EQ/clen/T3 ?

 

[biggeek]

heard good things about it.. never tried it.. but then again.. EQ can cause some serious hunger in most people.. definatly something you don't want on a cutter.. big reason i chose var other than no sides and good product is appetite suppression.. but try different things out.. see what works for you..

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

my source says around 400 for that much var...????!!
I hate the thought of using orals.

Don't talk $$$ of they'lll close this thread...

 

[Judo Tom]

you could also do test part 2

my first real cycle was test only.. it was soo great i ran it again and just upped the dosage a bit ate better trained harder and it was even better

..why buy the cow when you get the sex for free?? know what im sayin

 

[youlikeadajuice?]

you could also do test part 2

my first real cycle was test only.. it was soo great i ran it again and just upped the dosage a bit ate better trained harder and it was even better

..why buy the cow when you get the sex for free?? know what im sayin

you mean go on a cutting diet, sust/t3/clen ????

 

[Judo Tom]

no t3 for me unless its prescibe.. but my family has some thyroid issues and maybe thats why t3/clen scares me..

i am VERY active and normally eat clean so i just run test with nolvadex and drop lots of fat..

the water will come off after a week or so

but yeah test/t3/clen would be a good cutter IMO