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I think we're doing a disservice here...

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Lately I've been noticing more and more newbies that are still in their teens coming on this board and posting ridiculous cycles at mg dosages that are higher than some of the Vets that have had a few years of cycling behind their belt. Are we sending the wrong message?? The shocker of all shockers was when a well-respected Mod endorsed a cycle that consisted on 1g a week of test to a 19 year old that has NO AAS cycling history behind him. I can understand wanting to get the most out of your first cycle since you have virgin receptors but to recommend a 1g a week as a starter cycle is very irresponsible IMO. I'm 30 years old and have been cycling on and off since my early 20's and for me to take a 1g a week of Test is pushing the envelope. My last cycle I was using close to 2g's a week of various AAS compounds and I crashed like a mother fucker, which has me re-evaluating my approach to AAS cycling. Any thoughts here?
 
I think that one of the biggest disservices is platinum search. The newbies are the people that need it the most to get started, but the have to pay to use it properly. So they disregard researching and jump right in.

I am also revisiting my strategies. Less overcompensation and smarter cycle design.
IE> Instead of upping the test over 1g to deal with fina dick, I added proviron at 75mg/day. Now I can keep the test at 500mg less bloat; and virtually no need for aromasin.
 
My husband has taken a lot of stuff at higher dosages. Right now he is on 100mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days and wow, he is loving it more than any other cycle he has done. He feels 100 times better and his tallywacker is like an iron rod all the time and he doesn' t have highblood pressure and his attitude is great and he is gaining strength and muscle and it's just soooo much better than 100mg of propionate a day and 75mg of fina a day. I would have never guessed it, but the lower dosage is much much better.
 
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BrickGirl said:
My husband has taken a lot of stuff at higher dosages. Right now he is on 100mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days and wow, he is loving it more than any other cycle he has done. He feels 100 times better and his tallywacker is like an iron rod all the time and he doesn' t have highblood pressure and his attitude is great and he is gaining strength and muscle and it's just soooo much better than 100mg of propionate a day and 75mg of fina a day. I would have never guessed it, but the lower dosage is much much better.

So lower dosages improve dick function...nice!
 
The cycles I see on this board now are mild compared to three years ago. I remember reading several times about guys doing shot a day cycles of sus, and lots of guys starting insulin.
I know what you mean though.
 
Very true. All a newbie needs for optimal gains is 400-500 mg of test. Bam! Strechmarks everywhere.
 
This has been gone over before. Problem is gear has become cheap and easy to get. Years ago if you hadn't been around the gym for awhile no one would even talk to you about it.
I've been weight training over 15 years and have yet to go over 900mgs a week of combined drugs. It's simply not needed. But don't expect it to end any time soon. Years from now we'll probably see the results of this abuse.
 
you could look at it that way...
but think about all those teens that don't come to the boards for advice and just listen to the "big dude" at the gym or their supplier who is gonna try and sell as much as possible just to get a couple of bucks from these kids...they don't give a fuck about what happens to them as long as they get their money. The noobs that come here and do the first cycle they see were probably gonna do something even stupider without the board. What you are failing to see is all the others who come here and gain valuable info and decide to put off juicing or do low dose smart cycles... my .02
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Both are good points. The price of gear is so low these days, a college kid with a part time job that pays $6 an hour can afford to do 2 grams of test a week year round if he were so inclined. Its also true that alot of people come on here and get good advice that they might not otherwise have access too. None-the-less these high doses are disturbing. I've got afriend who thinks of a moderate cycle as the following
weeks
1-16 150 mg of prop ed
1-16 75 mg of tren ed
1-12 600 mg of eq
13-16 winny 50 mg ed
1-16 4 iu's of gh 5 days on 2 off

After over 10 cycles in 3 years he is like 200 ibs at about 20% bf (just a guess). What a waste of gear. He actually does work out several times a week though, he jsut doesn't keep a food journal and eats mcdonalds a couple times a day. His diet consist of hamburgers, french fries and dr. pepper with the occasional chili dog or pizza thrown in for variety.
 
I think the whole "Platimum search" is a bad idea. I am seeing a lot of posts about shit that could easily be answered through a quick search. Fuck... I think there was a "Is it OK to drink Winny?" post yesterday.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
I think the whole "Platimum search" is a bad idea. I am seeing a lot of posts about shit that could easily be answered through a quick search. Fuck... I think there was a "Is it OK to drink Winny?" post yesterday.

agreed
 
After over 10 cycles in 3 years he is like 200 ibs at about 20% bf (just a guess).
HOLY SHIT!....that's probably my biggest fear: going on gear and looking like i'm not on gear...but the again what body posted would be a huge step in the wrong direction for me:splat:
 
Gear is cheaper now?? Although I know little about the game years ago, I have a hard time believing that gear is cheaper now. It seems to me that before criminalization it would have been cheap and plentiful.
 
DeepZenPill said:
Gear is cheaper now?? Although I know little about the game years ago, I have a hard time believing that gear is cheaper now. It seems to me that before criminalization it would have been cheap and plentiful.

I think they're referring to all the UG labs and powder suppliers that have popped up all over the place.
 
DeepZenPill said:
Gear is cheaper now?? Although I know little about the game years ago, I have a hard time believing that gear is cheaper now. It seems to me that before criminalization it would have been cheap and plentiful.
Yes gear is cheaper now. Before the internet there was much less overseas communication. 10 years ago I didn't know a damn person in Russia, Romania, Peru, or a steroid dealer in any other state in my own country for that matter. Actually the only ones, and there weren't very many were the few that were in my own area. So you either paid what they asked or you didn't get any. And it would have to go through so many hands by the time it got to me the price went up dramatically.
Yes, I once paid $100 for 100 Russian D-bols. Remember, the internet didn't exist as we now know it back then.
 
No matter what we do, these newbies posting ridiculous cycles will just follow their path. They come here and make a thread, in order to hear exactly what they want. Even if they could search all day through our search engine, it wont change a damn thing. It was the same last year at the same period. Their mind is stuck with a monster cycle and no one/anything is going to change that.

I've done at least 5 cycles (or even more but I lost track) and I'm still conservative. I'm never crossing the 750mg/week limit, nor taking insane dosage of orals. I take saw palmetto no matter if this can hinder a bit my gains. I like to play the game, but to play it safe.
 
i am young and have done one cycle(500mg/wk sust) and got good results. i think i could have gotten better but of course i thought i was ready. now i dont plan on doing another one for a while but i still sit on here for like 2 hours a day reading and trying to learn. it does get very annoying doing a search and the five things that are allowed to come up have nothing to do w/ what your looking for. thats why i just want to say thanks to all you guys that help me out and even the guys that flame me because a flame=you question is dumb so dont do it. so thanks
 
DaddyX said:


i guess the lower case faq isnt good enough for him ;)

Well, the faq that is there answers board related questions, but nothing in the way of useful information for a newbie creating a cycle.

Not everyone can afford Platinum service...
 
The_Eviscerator said:


Well, the faq that is there answers board related questions, but nothing in the way of useful information for a newbie creating a cycle.

Not everyone can afford Platinum service...

oh i know that bro, but all he said was that there should be a faq section thing and technically there is :D
 
Bulk King said:
The cycles I see on this board now are mild compared to three years ago. I remember reading several times about guys doing shot a day cycles of sus, and lots of guys starting insulin.
I know what you mean though.

You registered in 2003?
 
BrickGirl said:
My husband has taken a lot of stuff at higher dosages. Right now he is on 100mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days and wow, he is loving it more than any other cycle he has done. He feels 100 times better and his tallywacker is like an iron rod all the time and he doesn' t have highblood pressure and his attitude is great and he is gaining strength and muscle and it's just soooo much better than 100mg of propionate a day and 75mg of fina a day. I would have never guessed it, but the lower dosage is much much better.

This makes a ton of sense to me! I'd rather be on lower dosages, longer term. I'm looking to get hrt and if I get on, might do 200mg per week instead of every 2 weeks.
My cycles are generally 500-600 mg of test.
 
Juice Authority said:
Lately I've been noticing more and more newbies that are still in their teens coming on this board and posting ridiculous cycles at mg dosages that are higher than some of the Vets that have had a few years of cycling behind their belt. Are we sending the wrong message?? The shocker of all shockers was when a well-respected Mod endorsed a cycle that consisted on 1g a week of test to a 19 year old that has NO AAS cycling history behind him. I can understand wanting to get the most out of your first cycle since you have virgin receptors but to recommend a 1g a week as a starter cycle is very irresponsible IMO. I'm 30 years old and have been cycling on and off since my early 20's and for me to take a 1g a week of Test is pushing the envelope. My last cycle I was using close to 2g's a week of various AAS compounds and I crashed like a mother fucker, which has me re-evaluating my approach to AAS cycling. Any thoughts here?
bro not to be an ass but this is something that has been going on since i can remember, even before i started posting. it is something you or i could stop but keep trying.;)
 
BrickGirl said:
My husband has taken a lot of stuff at higher dosages. Right now he is on 100mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days and wow, he is loving it more than any other cycle he has done. He feels 100 times better and his tallywacker is like an iron rod all the time and he doesn' t have highblood pressure and his attitude is great and he is gaining strength and muscle and it's just soooo much better than 100mg of propionate a day and 75mg of fina a day. I would have never guessed it, but the lower dosage is much much better.

You have a husband?

DAMMITT!!!
 
i dont know if its because ive had exp with rec drugs or what, but i know more isnt better. id never get too close o a gram, and im 290. these fucking kids think double the dose equals double the gains. it doesnt. i strongly believe that the plat search thing is part of the prob, but these ppl are fucking stupid. hell, i dont think a first timer at 35 should do a gram.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


Well, the faq that is there answers board related questions, but nothing in the way of useful information for a newbie creating a cycle.

Not everyone can afford Platinum service...

Thank you. At least someone understood what I meant. And those who felt it necessary to ridicule me can kiss my ass.
 
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