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I think I'm taking too much D-bol

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Swole_2112

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Currently I'm taking (or think I'm taking) 50mg/day of liquid d-bol. The liquid d-bol came in a 30ml bottle marked 50mg d-bol. Since it is 50mg d-bol, it stands to reason that it is 50mg/ml. It further stands to reason that at 50mg/day, the bottle would last 30 days. Now, I've been consuming 1/4 ml 4x per day (12.5mg 4x per day) for a week and the bottle appears that it is half empty. Now, either it's 15ml and not 30ml, or I've been getting 100mg/day, or perhaps it's something else I didn't think of. The UG lab I got them from came highly recommended from a friend of mine who has used them on multiple occasions. I know some places will short some customers maybe 2 or 3 ml, but I doubt by half. I'm not sure what to think. Any thoughts?
 
maybe losing a little each time you dip in 4x a day. or you are now at the wide part of the vial. or yes, you got ripped. ?????
 
What are you using to get the stuff out? I found the marked droppers are not always acurate. I just pull the liguid with a syringe, much more accurate.
 
I thought the same thing happened to me. The bottle looked low but I actually ended up with extra but it didn't look low as early as you say yours did.
 
What Caliboy said.
They have probably provided you with a shitty dropper/pipet.
Use a good syringe to measure your Dbol
 
chicagobuffedbod said:
I always use a syringe with no needle to get my liquid chemicals out. It's very accurate and quite easy.
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not really. syringes are not designed for that kind of measurement. you are likely taking .1 to .3ml extra with every draw. If you maintain a reservior of .5ml and draw up 1/4ml past and then push back to the .5ml mark then it will be more accurate.

this would account for you use in 15 days, with 4 draws a day you are likely taking nearly a full extra ml per day.

if you look closely at the syringe you will notice that the volumetric line marks start above the base- and does not include that volume or the volume within the needle itself (likely in this case an 18g which will hold more- a small amount but still more than say a 25g)
 
It depends on your stats bro. I don't think the lab is ripping you off, but if you believe so, then email your guy and see what he can do for you. You are probably taking more than you think each day though. Those droppers and even the syringes hold a little extra.

But even if you are taking spot on 50mg a day, I would look into some r-ala and tylers liver detox from the AF store. It's not a high dose, but a healthy liver is better than a bad one. :p Good luck on your cycle and happy gaining brother.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
not really. syringes are not designed for that kind of measurement. you are likely taking .1 to .3ml extra with every draw. If you maintain a reservior of .5ml and draw up 1/4ml past and then push back to the .5ml mark then it will be more accurate.

this would account for you use in 15 days, with 4 draws a day you are likely taking nearly a full extra ml per day.

if you look closely at the syringe you will notice that the volumetric line marks start above the base- and does not include that volume or the volume within the needle itself (likely in this case an 18g which will hold more- a small amount but still more than say a 25g)
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I've been using a syringe w/o a needle and I had considered the same thing. The mesuring lines don't account for that which is in the syringe before the lines begin. That being said, and assuming that I have not be taken, how should I adjust my measurement? Perhaps cut it in half?
 
Ulter said:
Yes cut it in half. Take 2 instead of 4. Or dilute it, which is probably the best idea since being off a little won't make such a difference.
Unfortunately this is a common problem with using liquids. Especially things like T3 that have to be dosed exactly every day.
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I assume I can dilute it in water. Will that effect it at all?
 
Syringes are used for dosage accuracy, mainly in fields where there is no margin for error.
Sorry Macrophage69Alpha, but I don't take your explanation.
 
Computer said:
Syringes are used for dosage accuracy, mainly in fields where there is no margin for error.
Sorry Macrophage69Alpha, but I don't take your explanation.
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do you have experience with syringes or have you studied their mechanics. A simple perusal of a common syringe would be enough.

keeping in mind that the syringe in this case is not being used for injection, where there still is room for error (just less) and that commonly when used in this fashion the individual will push with air in the syringe or draw in air to get the remainder out. also for drugs where precision in dosing is needed the metering on such syringes is either minute (in the case of these typically .2ml which is huge) or greater dilutions are used (so that its not an issue with less precise admin)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
do you have experience with syringes or have you studied their mechanics. A simple perusal of a common syringe would be enough.

keeping in mind that the syringe in this case is not being used for injection, where there still is room for error (just less) and that commonly when used in this fashion the individual will push with air in the syringe or draw in air to get the remainder out. also for drugs where precision in dosing is needed the metering on such syringes is either minute (in the case of these typically .2ml which is huge) or greater dilutions are used (so that its not an issue with less precise admin)
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Please don't try to sound like an expert in "syringe mechanism".
(yep I know, questionning a "vet poster" is a no-no on this site.....I'll probably see my karma going down fast)

Syringe usually have a +/- 1% accuracy specification. A 23G needle has an inner diameter of 0.318mm and will contain a minimal amount of liquid.
In total, this would lead to an error margin of +/- 1.0005% on that precious Dbol measurement. So while staying on the 1ml line, instead of drawing 50mg....he would be drawing 50.5mg Dbol.

Where does your "so yes you are probably using closer to 100mg a day than 50mg" estimation come from??? (100% error margin)

You shall notice that I am not an English speaker and do not have access to the full required vocabulary to be heard.
 
4 dosings per day. there is a .05 to .25 ml (varies though general .1 to .2) reservoir below the first measure mark (waste space) on a syringe. as a note Most people use 18g to draw, and taken as a single factor it would not account for the amount though it would still be more- especially with 4 draws per day.

its the repeated draw and error margin (created in part by a syringe being used to measure and fill or deliver, not inject) that created the disparity. as a note its really more like 4 separate errors per day (you will note-- closer to 100mg than to 50mg-- was the description)- with a single 1ml draw the error max would be probably 20%, but with smaller draws the error is greater (because the volume is smaller)
 
Good assessement.

I am indeed assuming that a roid consumer would use the smallest, most accurate syringe to have the job done. (Oh yes, and the "below 1st mark space" is not a waste space)
I stand corrected.

Sorry for the thread hijack as we were initially supposed to help Swole_2112.
 
just be careful with the dbol I got 3 benign tummors in my liver 2.5cm for taking 45mg a day for 5 weeks about two yrs ago. my dr told me that it was the oral steroid or estrogen itself because of the dbol so I suggest taking adex with it and milk thistle, I did another cycle of test and npp about a yr ago and my mri follow up showed that its been shrinking ever since even when I was on cycle. my liver enzymes were within the normal range though so it doesn't matter if ur feeling fine but inside u can grow something else besides muscle. For me orals are the devil but that's just me.
 
No. Dbol is not water soluble.
If your "liquid" Dbol is an alcohol solution, you can further dilute it with ethanol (Everclear).
If it's on oily solution, use oil.
If it's disolved in PEG, use PEG
....
 
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