I think im developing a problem

[theoak01]

I know somebody here has gone through this shit,but Im catching it early,it isnt affecting my work or anything,but im on the quick road to a problem that I know.

see Ive been drinking a fuck load lately,3-4 times a week just tanked and the days I dont drink I take benzo's at night to relax or I cant sleep, now the benzo's are prescribed for that but I think I only need them due to the booze and how its affecting me.

my issue is how the fuck do I keep away from this shit so much, everyone I work with drinks like fish all the time ,they bug me every night to have a few ,and I turn it down some nights as I hated being tired and useless at work,but ive been giving in more and more.

whats some good advice from those who have been there, military bro's know this mentality,my work is the same ideal ,hard to say no

thanks guys

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Simple you say no really not that hard IMO if your "friends" make a stink then they are really not the friends you thought they were.

 

[theoak01]

ya I agree 100%,I also think im using it to deal with stress and shit so it seems like a real easy way to blow off steam. the peer pressure thing isnt the biggest part of it,it is part of it,but I know ive got the problem.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I was a bartender for years, heck grew up in the business. I never ever ever drank while at work as I knew I couldnt function to my best while under the influence. If patrons wanted to buy me a drink (which was often) then I would politely refuse and say that I would take a tip instead.

Real friends will respect you for saying no. MEN will also respect you for it. Means that you are A MAN... not a sheep.

Trust me on this one.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

ya I agree 100%,I also think im using it to deal with stress and shit so it seems like a real easy way to blow off steam. the peer pressure thing isnt the biggest part of it,it is part of it,but I know ive got the problem.

I blow of steam in the gym I am angry I take out on the iron or have a retard cardio session that after I want to die. LOL Pick you posion wisely mine is the gym and some herbal refreshments to unwind. I can actually go with out the herb I quit all reck drugs and drinking for sometime when I was thinking about becoming a cop.

 

[EnderJE]

Take care, P. I had that problem a long time ago where I found myself drinking way to much and way too often. I stop when I got tired of waking up in my vomit a few times and lost much more then I realized (at the time).

By the sound of it, it doesn't like you need AA yet though...

Maybe you could do as QT mentioned and find some other past time?

 

[theoak01]

Take care, P. I had that problem a long time ago where I found myself drinking way to much and way too often. I stop when I got tired of waking up in my vomit a few times and lost much more then I realized (at the time).

By the sound of it, it doesn't like you need AA yet though...

Maybe you could do as QT mentioned and find some other past time?

I definately need something else to occupy my time,and it use to be the gym,i gotta make that become my priority again,I wanna be a cop so I cant end up with a problem like this.

here is to my fresh start,no more bullshit drinking,just now and then.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I know somebody here has gone through this shit,but Im catching it early,it isnt affecting my work or anything,but im on the quick road to a problem that I know.

see Ive been drinking a fuck load lately,3-4 times a week just tanked and the days I dont drink I take benzo's at night to relax or I cant sleep, now the benzo's are prescribed for that but I think I only need them due to the booze and how its affecting me.

my issue is how the fuck do I keep away from this shit so much, everyone I work with drinks like fish all the time ,they bug me every night to have a few ,and I turn it down some nights as I hated being tired and useless at work,but ive been giving in more and more.

whats some good advice from those who have been there, military bro's know this mentality,my work is the same ideal ,hard to say no

thanks guys

You're already recovering from the problem by catching it, and if your work bros can't handle you turning them down the problem is with them. Obviously if you have to work with them you'll want to avoid making enemies. But if they keep pestering you then they're shitheads with security issues, and you'll have to establish yourself apart from all that. If it turns out that's not an option, it would probably be best to find another job. But usually standing your ground is enough to counter anyone's bullshit.
Let us know how it goes.

 

[theoak01]

thanks guys,I def think I can deal with the people at work,im more worried about battling myself ,but I think if I can workout and keep busy that way then I wont need to drink all the time,hell Ill come on ef every night after work if I have to

 

[Rabid_Goose]

Over the span of a few months, I was drinking roughly two 5th's a week and some weeks, a pint. Usually I was doing around 10-12 shots a night, everynight. Monday through Sunday, as soon as I got off work. I still have my Jager 4ounce shot glasses with me but now I only drink every so often, it has been I'd say 2 months and that was just a couple of sips of WoodFord Reserve.

Look at the money you'll save, I was spending probably 50-60 a week on achohol because I was also drinking a 6-pack to chase with my Jager.

If you love a certain type of achohol, for me it is bourbon. Look for the FINEST spirit/bourbon/tequila you can find that just puts you in heaven and save up for it and every few months treat yourself. The next time I treat myself is still quite a bit away, I have to reach 185 pounds before I'm even allowed to let myself set a date. Set a lot of goals and it is even harder because you are just depending on yourself. May be different between you and I though, I really wasn't phsyically addicted, I was absolutley mentally addicted to the buzz and how fast I fell asleep with a buzz. Never went through withdraws and I drank like that for 5 or 6 months.

 

[healother]

I know somebody here has gone through this shit,but Im catching it early,it isnt affecting my work or anything,but im on the quick road to a problem that I know.

see Ive been drinking a fuck load lately,3-4 times a week just tanked and the days I dont drink I take benzo's at night to relax or I cant sleep, now the benzo's are prescribed for that but I think I only need them due to the booze and how its affecting me.

my issue is how the fuck do I keep away from this shit so much, everyone I work with drinks like fish all the time ,they bug me every night to have a few ,and I turn it down some nights as I hated being tired and useless at work,but ive been giving in more and more.

whats some good advice from those who have been there, military bro's know this mentality,my work is the same ideal ,hard to say no

thanks guys

honestly, if you dont think you can avoid falling into temptation and drinking with your workbuddies, you may be best off finding a different job.

i havent ever been an alcoholic, but ive been addicted to plenty other things, and the best advice i have, is to stay away from the temptation, period.

 

[theoak01]

for em its definately mental,I love ow I can sleep and it just makes the stress fuck off

 

[medical]

I definately need something else to occupy my time,and it use to be the gym,i gotta make that become my priority again,I wanna be a cop so I cant end up with a problem like this.

here is to my fresh start,no more bullshit drinking,just now and then.

If you have a problem having something else to "occupy your time" is not the answer, nor is cutting back. Time will tell. Keep drinking and we'll save a seat for you. You're not ready just yet methinks.

 

[Gambino]

oak i think benzos are worse than boozing in the long run, and booze can do some bad shit to you

 

[Rabid_Goose]

Ya, I have problems sleeping. When buzzing I rarley had my nightmares and I wouldn't lay in bed for minutes to hours just staring and I didn't wake up every few hours ever.

Tell your friends to stop inviting you to gatherings soley based around liqour. You know, clubs/bars and stuff. The only person you is depending on you to stop is the most important person in the world to you, yourself. I find a lot of people at work really don't care what I did or how I'm doing. So don't expect support except for the occasional person.

Look at it this way. You've been stranded behind enemy lines and the majority of your friends aren't going to root for you to come out, or stay behind and die except for some, and we call those true friends. When you come out of this stage, and it is just a stage and not a way of life, you'll see who the true friends are.

At work, I only found one that was a true friend.

 

[jenscats5]

for em its definately mental,I love ow I can sleep and it just makes the stress fuck off

Then you need to look into what else can replace your stress OTHER than booze - cuz booze is actually a stimulant & a stress-increaser.......

When you find yourself craving drinks, ask yourself why?? Bored? Lonely? Just cuz others are drinking?? If it's not a good reason or it's just cuz of peer pressure than don't have any or put yourself in the position to get pressured......

 

[medical]

booze is actually a stimulant & a stress-increaser...../QUOTE]
Ummmmm.......NO. (How do I give my very first red K? )

 

[theoak01]

Then you need to look into what else can replace your stress OTHER than booze - cuz booze is actually a stimulant & a stress-increaser.......

When you find yourself craving drinks, ask yourself why?? Bored? Lonely? Just cuz others are drinking?? If it's not a good reason or it's just cuz of peer pressure than don't have any or put yourself in the position to get pressured......

I think its a combination of all you said jen plus the stress from working 7 days a week not having a life.

but Ive been here before and I got it under control,I guess I just need to get myself in check from time to time.

Bino-the benzo's I didnt use to much,maybe a few nights a month when my natural tendancy for anxiety would act up . now its been a when I dont drink i need a sub.

medical-I hope I dont fall off into a big problem,I hope this is a bump in the road

 

[jenscats5]

booze is actually a stimulant & a stress-increaser...../QUOTE]
Ummmmm.......NO. (How do I give my very first red K? )

You'd better not!!

 

[jenscats5]

I think its a combination of all you said jen plus the stress from working 7 days a week not having a life.

but Ive been here before and I got it under control,I guess I just need to get myself in check from time to time.

Bino-the benzo's I didnt use to much,maybe a few nights a month when my natural tendancy for anxiety would act up . now its been a when I dont drink i need a sub.

medical-I hope I dont fall off into a big problem,I hope this is a bump in the road

Are you still off in the boonies working??

 

[theoak01]

Are you still off in the boonies working??

nope got back mid sept,been working in a big city lately,week on week off, when im home i only drink on the weekends,not during the week like at work. so Im definately thinking I need to find something else to do after work

 

[medical]

You'd better not!!

I did, and a bomb for correcting a glaringly WRONG post is uncalled for. You should edit your post at least. Stating that alcohol is a stimulant is a BAD POST! Like saying deca is a libido enhancer!

 

[UA_Iron]

I think its been 2 months since I've drinken. And I go to a big party school too.

 

[jenscats5]

I did, and a bomb for correcting a glaringly WRONG post is uncalled for. You should edit your post at least. Stating that alcohol is a stimulant is a BAD POST! Like saying deca is a libido enhancer!

You redded me - I redded you back, plain & simple......Go Plat & red k won't show as a bomb on you.....

And you could have simply corrected me & left it at that but YOU chose to go that extra step, not me........

 

[medical]

You redded me - I redded you back, plain & simple......Go Plat & red k won't show as a bomb on you.....

And you could have simply corrected me & left it at that but YOU chose to go that extra step, not me........

Mea Culpa....ending thread hijack now.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I blow of steam in the gym I am angry I take out on the iron or have a retard cardio session that after I want to die.

WTF is a "retard cardio session" you Canadian weirdo?

 

[mrplunkey]

I'd definately replace drinking with something else.

Figure-out when you are most vulnerable to want a drink. Is it when you are bored in the evening? Stressed-out from work when you first get home?

I'd find my most vulnerable times and replace it with the gym, a girlfriend, a favorate TV show, etc. etc.

Even these chat boards or a good Suduko puzzle works. I do those puzzles for about 30 minutes every morning and absolutely love them.

 

[theoak01]

I'd definately replace drinking with something else.

Figure-out when you are most vulnerable to want a drink. Is it when you are bored in the evening? Stressed-out from work when you first get home?

I'd find my most vulnerable times and replace it with the gym, a girlfriend, a favorate TV show, etc. etc.

Even these chat boards or a good Suduko puzzle works. I do those puzzles for about 30 minutes every morning and absolutely love them.

thanks bud,its definately after work,Im tired,sore,bored,everyone else wants to drink and I dont wanna seem anti social so I drink away anything thats buggin me.

but it will change that I promise

 

[mrplunkey]

thanks bud,its definately after work,Im tired,sore,bored,everyone else wants to drink and I dont wanna seem anti social so I drink away anything thats buggin me.

but it will change that I promise

What if the moment work is over, you hit a pre-workout drink and go to the gym then?

I use my pre-workout drink as a good excuse to pass on lunches. Everyone loves to have a business lunch, but it sends me to the gym @1:00 feeling full and bloated. So now, I just say: "I'm on a strict program that involves a pre-workout drink around 12:00 and it nauseates me a little bit. I'd love to have lunch with you but I just can't do it."

And good luck bor. You'll beat this. Recognizing the problem is a huge part of the solution.

 

[crew9]

I've been there myself about a year ago though I was drinking a bit more. I was 20+ drinks 4-5 nights a week. Waking up still drunk and having to go into work and getting a hangover midday gets old. What stopped me was I was just sick of feeling like crap unless I drank and even sicker about all the money I spent.

 

[Maverick]

I know somebody here has gone through this shit,but Im catching it early,it isnt affecting my work or anything,but im on the quick road to a problem that I know.

see Ive been drinking a fuck load lately,3-4 times a week just tanked and the days I dont drink I take benzo's at night to relax or I cant sleep, now the benzo's are prescribed for that but I think I only need them due to the booze and how its affecting me.

my issue is how the fuck do I keep away from this shit so much, everyone I work with drinks like fish all the time ,they bug me every night to have a few ,and I turn it down some nights as I hated being tired and useless at work,but ive been giving in more and more.

whats some good advice from those who have been there, military bro's know this mentality,my work is the same ideal ,hard to say no

thanks guys

just make yourself EF dude #2 to check into rehab

 

[biteme]

My brother I have a friend who drinks as much as 5 liters of wine per day. I'm trying to get them help before it's too late. Alcoholics develop a tolerance and then more and more is needed to achieve the same effect and then the real trouble begins. DON"T GO THERE BRO. IT CAN RUIN YOUR LIFE

 

[Sub-Zero]

how the hell do u guys bb and drink that much...

 

[theoak01]

how the hell do u guys bb and drink that much...

thats another totally unrelated problem,ive been slacking large at lifting and have turned into a fucking diaster, but ive already been to the gym once today and am gonna lift later in the day after some more food and a nap

 

[Scotsman]

You have to learn to rationalize your stress especially on long hitches. If it is too much for you to deal with logically then you need to find a new occupation before this one destroys you. I turned to the drink a few years ago and found out the hard way that it doesn't do anything but mask your current problems and create more, so then when you sober up you have that much more shit to deal with. Learn to meditate, lose yourself in music, take up writing, and definitely hit the iron as often as you can. You just have to man up and realize that you are the only one responsible for your choices at the end of the day and no one can ever take that from you.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[theoak01]

your right Scots, I know I can handle it,just need to man up and handle it better.

ill post updates here from time to time

 

[Scotsman]

Good, I'll check on you as often as I can.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I think its a combination of all you said jen plus the stress from working 7 days a week not having a life.

but Ive been here before and I got it under control,I guess I just need to get myself in check from time to time.

Bino-the benzo's I didnt use to much,maybe a few nights a month when my natural tendancy for anxiety would act up . now its been a when I dont drink i need a sub.

medical-I hope I dont fall off into a big problem,I hope this is a bump in the road

I think the Anxiety is your issue that leads to addiction. It is why you are looking for something to keep you occupied. Look into thearpy to get your problems identified and then work on them. Figure yourself out.

 

[Spartacus]

just make yourself EF dude #2 to check into rehab

you can't even keep score correctly
there's about a half dozen recovering addicts on this here board
bunch more up in the anabolic board
just different sauce

 

[digimon7068]

need to set a goal bro. . .like abs by March 31. . .can't drink your face off every night and have abs too. . .

 

[alien amp pharm]

Tell your buddies that you like to touch other dudes cocks when you get drunk.

I bet they won't peer pressure you into drinking after that.




...unless Lestat is one of your drinking buddies.

 

[OMEGA]

I am a big fan of going cold turkey

in 3 days to a week you will be right as rain

 

[Spartacus]

You have to learn to rationalize your stress especially on long hitches. If it is too much for you to deal with logically then you need to find a new occupation before this one destroys you. I turned to the drink a few years ago and found out the hard way that it doesn't do anything but mask your current problems and create more, so then when you sober up you have that much more shit to deal with. Learn to meditate, lose yourself in music, take up writing, and definitely hit the iron as often as you can. You just have to man up and realize that you are the only one responsible for your choices at the end of the day and no one can ever take that from you.

Cheers,
Scotsman

what do you do when you lose the focus to hit the iron
2 years ago I lifted 3-4 days a week
ran 3-5 miles on alternate days
it wasn't the alcohol
it was the grinding depression
that sucked it out of me

 

[jnevin]

You're the only one that knows how much of a problem this is becoming. If you're binge drinking regularly and are feeling like you're becoming dependant upon prescription meds, you may want to take a big step back and do what you can to change the behavior. I'm not saying you need AA, but going to a meeting or two wouldn't be the worst idea. I've gone to them. I don't go regularly, but they're helpful.

You're the only one that knows how bad it is, or how close to your wit's end you are because of it. I hope it all works out.

 

[Lestat]

good luck bro, you'll be alright, you've got a good head.

 

[jnevin]

what do you do when you lose the focus to hit the iron
2 years ago I lifted 3-4 days a week
ran 3-5 miles on alternate days
it wasn't the alcohol
it was the grinding depression
that sucked it out of me

That was me too.

And I don't know why a depressant seems to be such a good cure for the blues, but it can be a great numbing agent.

 

[Spartacus]

That was me too.

And I don't know why a depressant seems to be such a good cure for the blues, but it can be a great numbing agent.

the peace
even if the peace is for 4 hours and then you have to deal with the ramifications for the next 24

 

[Scotsman]

what do you do when you lose the focus to hit the iron
2 years ago I lifted 3-4 days a week
ran 3-5 miles on alternate days
it wasn't the alcohol
it was the grinding depression
that sucked it out of me

Sometimes you have to figure out what it is that's bothering you. Sometimes that takes help, not necessarily professional help but a good friend to come kick you in the ass or put things in a different prospective. This spring I turned in my resignation at work because I knew it was the root problem in my life and I had finally had enough. Then some weird shit transpired and eventually they begged me to stay then fired me. Oh well at least then I was getting unemployment which helped fund a few months off that I used to really get back in touch with myself and the iron at the same time. You are going to lose the hunger every so often you just need to figure out what can be done to get it back. I understand about the depression thing I battled it when I first started college and was miserable every day. After about a year of it I decided no more and tried my best to do more things I enjoy, I cut out negative influences in my life (people, drinking too much, etc.). I tried to find people who I liked to be around and eventually overcame it and found inner peace.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[jnevin]

the peace
even if the peace is for 4 hours and then you have to deal with the ramifications for the next 24

Well, you can really draw it out and redefine misery with the white devil and an all-nighter.

 

[Spartacus]

Sometimes you have to figure out what it is that's bothering you. Sometimes that takes help, not necessarily professional help but a good friend to come kick you in the ass or put things in a different prospective. This spring I turned in my resignation at work because I knew it was the root problem in my life and I had finally had enough.
Cheers,
Scotsman

what do you do when the root problem is a family business
I've lost a wife and the only other gal I loved over this business
how do you tell your family fuck you
and I'm financialy coincided

 

[Scotsman]

what do you do when the root problem is a family business
I've lost a wife and the only other gal I loved over this business
how do you tell your family fuck you
and I'm financialy coincided

That's a tough one because it is not only work it is blood. Emotional ties are the hardest to cut but sometimes you just have to do it for your own good. I have never gotten involved with any family on a business level and never will for that very reason. A good friend of mine had to do this a year or so ago. He finally couldn't take it anymore and had his dad and brother buy him out of the ventures. It fucked him up pretty bad for a while but once he got over the initial shock he is the happiest I've ever seen him.

There is no way to make a clean break of it and it may takes years to repair the emotional damage, but is it better or worse to stay in a situation that is killing you inside and out? Only you can make that decision and I honestly don't envy you bro, but making no decision is the worst possible avenue in life.

When it all comes down to it at the end of the day the only thing we control is our decisions, good or bad they are the only thing that matters.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[jh1]

I Told You So!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Spartacus]

That's a tough one because it is not only work it is blood. Emotional ties are the hardest to cut but sometimes you just have to do it for your own good. I have never gotten involved with any family on a business level and never will for that very reason. A good friend of mine had to do this a year or so ago. He finally couldn't take it anymore and had his dad and brother buy him out of the ventures. It fucked him up pretty bad for a while but once he got over the initial shock he is the happiest I've ever seen him.

There is no way to make a clean break of it and it may takes years to repair the emotional damage, but is it better or worse to stay in a situation that is killing you inside and out? Only you can make that decision and I honestly don't envy you bro, but making no decision is the worst possible avenue in life.

When it all comes down to it at the end of the day the only thing we control is our decisions, good or bad they are the only thing that matters.

Cheers,
Scotsman

to be honest
I'd love to tell my parents "fuck you"
they use my loyalty and then fight amongst themselves
some things you can't do
I have 2 sisters and a brother
and they look apon me as...

 

[Scotsman]

to be honest
I'd love to tell my parents "fuck you"
they use my loyalty and then fight amongst themselves
some things you can't do
I have 2 sisters and a brother
and they look apon me as...

As their rock?

Problem with being a rock is that eventually they will break themselves on you like a ship caught in the tide.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[theoak01]

alot of good insight here guys.

right now its not effecting any other parts of my life,I still go to work,am good at my job,and handle all my responsibilities,but I think if I keep going it will lead me down a bad road,I had not been training and that wont get me into my career,plus im way over the max bodyfat to get hired so im getting back on track,clean diet,lots of gym time from now on.

thanks again for all the input guys,Im gonna look back on this thread whenever i feel a weak moment. definately dont want to be dependant on this shit.

 

[Spartacus]

alot of good insight here guys.

right now its not effecting any other parts of my life,I still go to work,am good at my job,and handle all my responsibilities,but I think if I keep going it will lead me down a bad road,I had not been training and that wont get me into my career,plus im way over the max bodyfat to get hired so im getting back on track,clean diet,lots of gym time from now on.

thanks again for all the input guys,Im gonna look back on this thread whenever i feel a weak moment. definately dont want to be dependant on this shit.

cut it out
when I got sober first(~9 years) I still bartended
my co-workers would ask me if I was going out
I'd just tell "not tonight"
when I relocated I kept my night job at outback steakhouse
met the girl I married after 9 months
long 9 months

 

[theoak01]

im just gonna be straight and say im taking a break for now,i wont stop forever,just get a handle on it before it gets really bad

 

[Spartacus]

im just gonna be straight and say im taking a break for now,i wont stop forever,just get a handle on it before it gets really bad

too bad you can't quit in a "little way"
if you're sick you have to do the all or nothing
you'll figure it out

 

[medical]

too bad you can't quit in a "little way"
if you're sick you have to do the all or nothing
you'll figure it out

"If you have a problem having something else to "occupy your time" is not the answer, nor is cutting back. Time will tell. Keep drinking and we'll save a seat for you. You're not ready just yet methinks."

 

[theoak01]

wow you guys think that this is really that big of a deal already? not that I just realized it can quickly go that way?

 

[medical]

wow you guys think that this is really that big of a deal already? not that I just realized it can quickly go that way?

No one is saying you have a problem (you already said that), but people with experience are saying that if it really is a problem ...ahem.... "half measures availed us nothing" (google that phrase).

 

[theoak01]

makes sense man,but I think I was developing one,it had not yet become a problem,ive been to this point before back in college where I felt I was on the verge of things going very downhill and I backed off,and was good for a long time,now i just seem to be back at that point about 2 years later

 

[medical]

makes sense man,but I think I was developing one,it had not yet become a problem,ive been to this point before back in college where I felt I was on the verge of things going very downhill and I backed off,and was good for a long time,now i just seem to be back at that point about 2 years later

Good. we wish you luck but will still save a seat for you.