I Seriously Need Some Help

[SoCo4Fun]

Heres my story.

Ive always been fat. 5-9 190 ~20% bf. I finally got really dedicated learned a great deal about dieting and training and now I am 172 ~10% bf. I wanna bulk but everytime I start eating enough calories to bulk I begin to gain fat. I dont care if it takes me a lot longer to gain the lbm. I wanna stay skinny while doing it. Please help me design a diet that will allow me to put on lbm while staying lean.


p.s. Ill prawly being doing a winny/ox cycle in a couple of months.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

if you eat clean while bulking, you'll put on mainly muscle with some fat and water, then you cut out dairy and bread and you'll lose the fat and keep muscle

 

[SoCo4Fun]

Even when I eat clean I swear I gain a ton of fat. I think Im just really sensitive to carbs.

 

[maximized]

How much cardio you doing? If you gain fat even while eating clean, perhaps you just need to add more cardio even when you are trying to bulk up...

grats on the bf% improvement...keep it up!


-max

 

[My End Over Mad her]

I think you should figure out how much calories you need
in order to gain 1-1.5 pound a week
start with a good number like 12 X your body weight
then decrease in calories if your gaining to much weight
like around 200 calories..

eat clean too....

something like that or something like something

yeah

 

[Exodus]

read on what you can do naturally first.......JUICE IS NOT THE ANSWER TO ALL YOUR STINKING PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!

good luck, and have a nice day

X

 

[_jaap_]

exodus is being a little hard on you. But i agree with his point try to get your shit together nutritionally first, then start juice.

that said what you want to achieve can only be achieved when on juice gaining lbm while staying at a low bodyfat% is imposible. Still i woudln't advise using the juice just eat clean and get more then your maintance that way. You will gain fat but you cant build without a good foundation can you?

 

[SoCo4Fun]

Ive been owrking out for a long time and tried plenty of things. I actually know a great deal about training and nutrition. I just thought maybe someone elses look on my situation might be different.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Eat clean.

350 grams of protein.
175 grams of carbs
100 grams of unsaturated Fat.

You will slowly gain nothing but Lean muscle.

 

[SoCo4Fun]

Ill give that a try crumcake.

You think thatll work well with

ox 40mg/ED
winny 100mg/ED
clen

for 6 weeks

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

I am on Ox right now, and i'll tell you bro, It'll fuck with your appetite, You need major will power to push through that shit and EAT.

But yes,,it'll definatly work well.

Eat around 250 carbs, not 175 if you decide to go with ox/winny.

I don't think you need to mess with the clen yet.


If i was you this is what i would do....

First 2 months, Eat like a motherfucking maniac,, Just blow up,, but make sure you TRAIN SUPER HARD, and eat a minimum of 400grams of protein Daily (which will be a lot of hard work)...

With your body type you will probably gain 8 - 17lbs naturally like that.

Once you get your Ox/Clen/Winny, Start tha cutting process, BUT do not drop your calories too low.

350 protein, 150 carbs, 100 unsaturated healthy fats.

Will will not only lose all the fat you gained during your originally bulk up (first two months), but you will lose Much more fat, and most likely gain an extra 10lbs of lean mass.

Tha MOST IMPORTANT thing is your diet. That is number 1, It takes extreme dedication to eat 400 grams of protein a day and not miss a meal...extreme dedication.

Good luck bro,
Peace

 

[SoCo4Fun]

thanks for the input crumcake.

Im actually on clen right now. Im down to 169. Im weighing my options with sources right now but my cycle may start sooner than I thought. Ill just bump up the food intake right quick. I eat like a super model because of this clen. Gotta fix that.

Ps. When its back up man come check out the new board.