Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below What up everyone, i just started visiting this site when i was told about it recently -- it seems you guys know what your talking about. I am interested in doing a cycle but am clueless where to start. I have worked out pretty consistenly for the last 5 yrs. and 5 times a week since the begining of this year, but can't get any bigger. I am 6'1'' 180 -- I am pretty cut just need more size -- i've taken everything you can buy at GNC (whey protein, creatine, weight gainer, andro, etc.) and nothing is getting me over this hump, I eat 5-6 good meals a day. What should I take! Explain to me in dumb idiot language b/c when reading some other post i don't even know what some of the abbreviations are. Thanks for the help.
I need cycle recomendations!
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chanmanfoo
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i would try a simple cycle. run testosterone cypionate or enanthate at 250/400mg per week for 8/10 weeks. do a search on both of these compounds, also search: first cycles, clomid, post cycle, esters, liquidex. check out www.siteinjections.com and do a google search for steroids. bottom line is do plenty of research before you start any cycle, make sure you feel comfortable in your knowledge of steroids and what they do before you just start sticking yourself. also check out the diet and training boards as without proper diet and training your cycle will be a complete waste. good luck
foo
foo
Hi,
Try running the follwing for 8 weeks take your meals up to 7 to 8 a day eat as clean as you can get lots of sleep.
===========Sust======Deca======Clomid
Week1-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week2-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week3-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week4-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week5-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week6-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week7-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week8-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week9-----000mg------200mg-----00mg
Week10----000mg------000mg-----100mg every day
Week11----000mg------000mg-----50mg every day
shoud get some good gains if you want swap the deca out for eq or ganabol also you could run 2 shots of cyp 100mg along the sust in the first two weeks to give you a kick into the cycle as sust takes a few weeks to start noticeing gains..!
Hope this helps drink lots of water take some milk thistle and get some cranberry extract pills.!
-=[MIKAI]=-
Try running the follwing for 8 weeks take your meals up to 7 to 8 a day eat as clean as you can get lots of sleep.
===========Sust======Deca======Clomid
Week1-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week2-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week3-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week4-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week5-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week6-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week7-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week8-----250mg------200mg-----00mg
Week9-----000mg------200mg-----00mg
Week10----000mg------000mg-----100mg every day
Week11----000mg------000mg-----50mg every day
shoud get some good gains if you want swap the deca out for eq or ganabol also you could run 2 shots of cyp 100mg along the sust in the first two weeks to give you a kick into the cycle as sust takes a few weeks to start noticeing gains..!
Hope this helps drink lots of water take some milk thistle and get some cranberry extract pills.!
-=[MIKAI]=-
TheDarkSideNinja
New member
Hey bro...
An even better place to start is the search here at E.F.!!! You say your goal is to gain more size so type something like "Gain Size" in the search and that will be a good place to start. I will not recommend anything but some good mass drugs include Enanthate, Sustanon, Omnadren (same as sus), Primobolan, etc.. I.M.O as a beginner all you need is one injectable form of test to hit your goal. If you care about your health you will do extensive research and learn about anything you plan on putting in your body to make sure you remain healthy. Some reasons for sticking with 1 injectable:
1. Less stress on the liver than pills
2. See how your body reacts to test
A good reason for sticking to a single ester test such as Enanthate opposed to Sust. is to keep the blood levels more stable throughout the week. Regardless of what people are going to tell you i would never recommend over 500mgs/week to any newbie. You have to 1st understand how our bodies work. We produce a certain amount of test each week (in layman terms) so when we add that extra test. assuming we have our diet and training in check we will make significant improvements. You may also want to run some searches on supplements you can use to counter side effects such as Tyler's Liver Detox for the Liver or maybe some Milk Thistle or ALA. Also how about some Cranberry Extract for the kidneys??? Stick around and do the research bro and i guarentee you will eventually reach your goals. Oh by the way you may want to also learn about nolvadex, arimidex, and clomid. They can be very helpful!!! Lastly i would like to wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide and if you have any more questions which i can answer feel free to ask!!! ~JT~
An even better place to start is the search here at E.F.!!! You say your goal is to gain more size so type something like "Gain Size" in the search and that will be a good place to start. I will not recommend anything but some good mass drugs include Enanthate, Sustanon, Omnadren (same as sus), Primobolan, etc.. I.M.O as a beginner all you need is one injectable form of test to hit your goal. If you care about your health you will do extensive research and learn about anything you plan on putting in your body to make sure you remain healthy. Some reasons for sticking with 1 injectable:
1. Less stress on the liver than pills
2. See how your body reacts to test
A good reason for sticking to a single ester test such as Enanthate opposed to Sust. is to keep the blood levels more stable throughout the week. Regardless of what people are going to tell you i would never recommend over 500mgs/week to any newbie. You have to 1st understand how our bodies work. We produce a certain amount of test each week (in layman terms) so when we add that extra test. assuming we have our diet and training in check we will make significant improvements. You may also want to run some searches on supplements you can use to counter side effects such as Tyler's Liver Detox for the Liver or maybe some Milk Thistle or ALA. Also how about some Cranberry Extract for the kidneys??? Stick around and do the research bro and i guarentee you will eventually reach your goals. Oh by the way you may want to also learn about nolvadex, arimidex, and clomid. They can be very helpful!!! Lastly i would like to wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide and if you have any more questions which i can answer feel free to ask!!! ~JT~
Eh Bro,
SOunds like it is about time you started to grow. Make sure you hang around the boards and SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH for a while before you actually do anything, you want to be as educated as possible before doing anything. Here is what I would recommend for a first cycle.
Sustanon 250: Week 1 - 8
EQ 400: Week 1 - 8
Dbol 30mgs: Week 1-3
Anavar 40mgs: Week 3 - 8
+ all the appropriate protective measures that you will find out from your searching. This should give you some decent solid gains that you should keep.
Good luck,
Mavy
SOunds like it is about time you started to grow. Make sure you hang around the boards and SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH for a while before you actually do anything, you want to be as educated as possible before doing anything. Here is what I would recommend for a first cycle.
Sustanon 250: Week 1 - 8
EQ 400: Week 1 - 8
Dbol 30mgs: Week 1-3
Anavar 40mgs: Week 3 - 8
+ all the appropriate protective measures that you will find out from your searching. This should give you some decent solid gains that you should keep.
Good luck,
Mavy
Keep it simple!
400 mg Test ent/cyp for 8 weeks.
If you are tight on cash, get some Clomid for the the end (3 weeks after last shot) I don't like this but it is cheep and it works.
If you care about your health and want to ensure better recovery get 18,000 IU of HCG and 45 tabs of N-dex and use as follows...
2000 IU x 3 /week for 3 weeks starting week 8 along with
10 - 20 mgs of N-dex each day for a toal of 45 days.
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Notes: You should have some n-dex around just in case you have a reaction to the test. I think that the deca and dbol is a bunch of crap....save it for later if you want to try that. Test is all you really need for now. YOu will make GREAT gains from it!! AND you will be much better off as far as being safe.
Good luck and focus on Diet and Training!
READ - READ - READ - READ
400 mg Test ent/cyp for 8 weeks.
If you are tight on cash, get some Clomid for the the end (3 weeks after last shot) I don't like this but it is cheep and it works.
If you care about your health and want to ensure better recovery get 18,000 IU of HCG and 45 tabs of N-dex and use as follows...
2000 IU x 3 /week for 3 weeks starting week 8 along with
10 - 20 mgs of N-dex each day for a toal of 45 days.
--------
Notes: You should have some n-dex around just in case you have a reaction to the test. I think that the deca and dbol is a bunch of crap....save it for later if you want to try that. Test is all you really need for now. YOu will make GREAT gains from it!! AND you will be much better off as far as being safe.
Good luck and focus on Diet and Training!
READ - READ - READ - READ
chanmanfoo
New member
Mavy said:
no offence here mavy as i know you are trying to be helpful to this kid but why would you reccomend eight weeks of orals and a total of four different compounds to someone for their first cycle? keefer take the search advise and you will learn why this is bad advise.
foo
cdownie927
New member
Grainger said:
Hey grainger or whoever can help I can get Pregnol hcg if thats spelled right 5000iu Would it be enough to split it up and run 2500iu twice a week for three weeks I dont want to go threw the process of puying vials and water. I guess 5000iu would be one cc so if i did a half twice a week would that be cool
I don't think that you can get 18,000 IU from a 5000 IU bottle unless your initals are J.C. 
Get 3 5000 IU bottle (1 cc each) You are going to use one bottle per week. Take 1/3 of a cc (using an insulin pin would be beter to measure) and do that 3 times per week for 3 weeks. Make sense? You could do 2 shots per week but I would prefer to spread it out. M - W - F.
Get 3 5000 IU bottle (1 cc each) You are going to use one bottle per week. Take 1/3 of a cc (using an insulin pin would be beter to measure) and do that 3 times per week for 3 weeks. Make sense? You could do 2 shots per week but I would prefer to spread it out. M - W - F.
cdownie927
New member
Never got insulin pins before do you need a certain measurement (i heard they come 10 50 100 or something like that) and to what line do i feel the insulin pin to to get 1666iu
