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Culero

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I started taking winny/dbol last friday, 30mg of each, along with 1000/mg of milk thistle. I plan to run this for dbol for 4 weeks, and winny for 8. Before you guys go flaming me for not doing a needle, I've just finished a year and a half of hormone replacement therapy because I have a pituitary gland tumor. During that time, I took a shot every week, non-stop, not by choice, but because I had to. So, I'm a little bit over shots for a while. But, getting back to this thread, I worked out my legs last night for the first time since I started taking these. I normally warm up 2 sets, one at 185, and another at 225, then i start my real sets. Last night, after I did my 225, my legs felt useless by my third set, normally at 275. My quads were so tight, that it hurt and I had to stop. I went around and worked on hamstrings, calves, and abs, then I came back and tried again. This time, I started with 225, and could only muster 3 reps because of the pain and tightness. Am I not drinking enough water, or is this to be expected? My last cycle, I took 250mg sus/week, 200mg eq/week, and dbol for the first 4 weeks. I experienced none of this that time around. My goal is to slowly get back into the swing of things. I wasn't able to consistently work out for the past year and a hald due to the tumor and different types of therapy. I went from 205 to 180, so lost a lot of muscle, strength, and definition. I want to get strong and lean, and then go from there. I appreciate any constructive criticism and advice you guys have.
 
You should work out and build a base again, without taking AAS. Taking dbols and winny is just asking for liver problems. You could have been seizing up because you are not drinking enough water, you SHOULD be drinking and insane amount of water since your are taking orals, and especially when taking two different orals
 
Culero said:
I started taking winny/dbol last friday, 30mg of each, along with 1000/mg of milk thistle. I plan to run this for dbol for 4 weeks, and winny for 8. Before you guys go flaming me for not doing a needle, I've just finished a year and a half of hormone replacement therapy because I have a pituitary gland tumor. During that time, I took a shot every week, non-stop, not by choice, but because I had to. So, I'm a little bit over shots for a while. But, getting back to this thread, I worked out my legs last night for the first time since I started taking these. I normally warm up 2 sets, one at 185, and another at 225, then i start my real sets. Last night, after I did my 225, my legs felt useless by my third set, normally at 275. My quads were so tight, that it hurt and I had to stop. I went around and worked on hamstrings, calves, and abs, then I came back and tried again. This time, I started with 225, and could only muster 3 reps because of the pain and tightness. Am I not drinking enough water, or is this to be expected? My last cycle, I took 250mg sus/week, 200mg eq/week, and dbol for the first 4 weeks. I experienced none of this that time around. My goal is to slowly get back into the swing of things. I wasn't able to consistently work out for the past year and a hald due to the tumor and different types of therapy. I went from 205 to 180, so lost a lot of muscle, strength, and definition. I want to get strong and lean, and then go from there. I appreciate any constructive criticism and advice you guys have.

Drop the winny bro...it's oral over kill....dbol is strong enough alone to make some gains and get you back in the swing of things....take milk thistle right before you start training to relieve the back pumps..also I recommend taking dbol 1-1.5 hours before you start training to kick you back into your workouts...some will disagree, but try it and see how it works for you....at your weight you need to be drinking at least 100-120 ozs while juicing and 80-100 ozs when not juicing...but remember you can never get too much water.....
 
Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it! Can I do dbol, then winny? I'm already almost a week into the cycle, and still debating on Tren or something like that.
 
NO TREN. Do the d-bol by itself. You should make great gains with it. One week into it is not long bro. You will be fine to drop the winny now. Save it for another cycle. (cutting) Once you get back into it solid then you can look into the winny and run it with some tren if you want. That will give you some sick muscle and definition but you gotta get your body back into the swing of things first. Good luck bro.
 
my left hand has been numb for a couple of days now, mainly my ring and pinky fingers...this hasn't happened to me before. Is this related to gear, or something else? I'm 25, and I don't think i have bad circulation.
 
Culero said:
my left hand has been numb for a couple of days now, mainly my ring and pinky fingers...this hasn't happened to me before. Is this related to gear, or something else? I'm 25, and I don't think i have bad circulation.
Whoa that doesn't sound good man. Do you have chest pain? I would go in and have doctor look at it. It could be the begining of a stroke or a heart attack. Dbol makes your blood pressure go up so it could be you just started feeling a pre-existing condition.
 
Damn, I didn't even think of that at my age. Should i tell my doc everything I'm taking? I feel like he's going to scold me or something.
 
Sounds like dbol pump and winny joint stiffness.
Go to the DR. Numbness in the hand is not good. I would rather be alive and skinny than pumped up and dead!
Good luck bro!
 
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