I know this dose may be wack

[suaveyankees]

I just started with the testosterone therapy which Im sure to most this is baby stuff. I had been on morphine and other medications for about 3 years due to a nerve injury. I took myself of the medication and was left with pain on my left arm and also unable to make a fist. I work out but i have a hard time staying modivated unless i have some kind of supplement. I was taking the VPX stuff but since they banned it Its hard to get. So now I looked into this testosterone therapy. First of all Im scared of needles so I hope im able to continue I had my first shot already last wed. Now the question is will I really see gains from what they gave me? Here is what they gave me.




Testosterone Cypionate 200mg 1cc
Nandrolone: 200mg 1cc


I take the first two together 1 a week.

Anastrozole I have not received it yet but I guess I will soon.

Im sure I can get the dosage greater I will have to tell the doctor.


Also what supplements does any one recomend on taking while on this stuff to help build mass and put on weight besides eating a lot. Like creatine ect.


Thanks to everyone in advance.

Steve
Orlando, Fl

 

[ThepoolGuy]

I hear nandrolone is best used at 400-600mg a week. Ive never used nandrolone b4 though. Ive only done one cycle that was Test Enanthate 500mg a week for 15 weeks. I gained 22lbs and kept 16lbs. I am also leaner than when I started. It sounds like if you want to gain mass I would do 200mg cypionate 3X a week and nandrolone 200 mg 2X a week. So Test C 600mg a week, Nandrolone 400mg a week. As far as extra supplements I would be injesting at least 250mg a protein a day from lean meats and occasional shakes. Lots of whole food, eggs,tuna,turkey,beef,fruits,vegetables,lowfat milk,chicken,fish,multi vitamins, and 1.5 to 2 gallons of water a day. Youll also want to pick up some AIFM and some nolvadex to keep the water off of ya and for your post cycle therapy. Good luck Guy!!

 

[suaveyankees]

I hear nandrolone is best used at 400-600mg a week. Ive never used nandrolone b4 though. Ive only done one cycle that was Test Enanthate 500mg a week for 15 weeks. I gained 22lbs and kept 16lbs. I am also leaner than when I started. It sounds like if you want to gain mass I would do 200mg cypionate 3X a week and nandrolone 200 mg 2X a week. So Test C 600mg a week, Nandrolone 400mg a week. As far as extra supplements I would be injesting at least 250mg a protein a day from lean meats and occasional shakes. Lots of whole food, eggs,tuna,turkey,beef,fruits,vegetables,lowfat milk,chicken,fish,multi vitamins, and 1.5 to 2 gallons of water a day. Youll also want to pick up some AIFM and some nolvadex to keep the water off of ya and for your post cycle therapy. Good luck Guy!!

If im moderated by a doctor (palm beach rejuvination) how can i get a higher dose. Im sure If i requested they will give it to me Im sure I just have to pay for it. Also while on those higher dosage do you still cycle off/

 

[kaoz]

if you need motivation take no explode preworkout drink it works good

 

[jmead]

If im moderated by a doctor (palm beach rejuvination) how can i get a higher dose. Im sure If i requested they will give it to me Im sure I just have to pay for it. Also while on those higher dosage do you still cycle off/

you are on hrt.. as in on for life.. correct? those dosages will shut you down like crazy after a few months.. i would just stick around the ballpark of 400-500 test and 200-300 nan..and i still dont know if thats healthy to run for extended periods.. the nandro will shut you down after awhile.. even with the test i think..

 

[ortiz34]

I hear nandrolone is best used at 400-600mg a week. Ive never used nandrolone b4 though. Ive only done one cycle that was Test Enanthate 500mg a week for 15 weeks. I gained 22lbs and kept 16lbs. I am also leaner than when I started. It sounds like if you want to gain mass I would do 200mg cypionate 3X a week and nandrolone 200 mg 2X a week. So Test C 600mg a week, Nandrolone 400mg a week. As far as extra supplements I would be injesting at least 250mg a protein a day from lean meats and occasional shakes. Lots of whole food, eggs,tuna,turkey,beef,fruits,vegetables,lowfat milk,chicken,fish,multi vitamins, and 1.5 to 2 gallons of water a day. Youll also want to pick up some AIFM and some nolvadex to keep the water off of ya and for your post cycle therapy. Good luck Guy!!

Horrible advice bro. 200mgs of cyp and 200 mgs of Deca is plenty for someone just starting out. Along with a good diet and lifting routine he should make nice moderate gains.

 

[suaveyankees]

if you need motivation take no explode preworkout drink it works good

yea i used it it truly does work

 

[bilter]

a cycle for me used to be just 200mg of test per week. I used to compete in power lifting in the 80's and that was all I needed to win regional events

I agree with ortiz

 

[suaveyankees]

a cycle for me used to be just 200mg of test per week. I used to compete in power lifting in the 80's and that was all I needed to win regional events

I agree with ortiz

thanks guys for the advice

how long until i see anything happening. Like when will i see or feel something in my body to realize its working.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

600 and 400 is alot I agree. However I have heard that 200mg a week of nandrolone is a waste of time. Also I hear that you want to use the same amount of test with deca if not more. So maybe400mg Test 400mg Deca would be the best if you use both compounds. When I do decide to use deca I will use more Test than the Deca. Something like this 750mg Test E 400mg Deca. That is why I recommended 600/400. I did not recommend he use that much for an extended period like 6 months. Only buy the extra for a 12-15 week cycle either from his doc or from another source preferrably so his doc doesnt know. Then when the cycle is over go back to your hrt plan.

 

[Ulter]

I assume you're not really looking to grow much. If that's the case then you'll do just fine with those doses. You'll grow a little and will most likely get all the side effects you would get using body builder doses. (That's why it makes no sense to use doses that small)

 

[dsh89]

Ulter an Ortiz are correct. Hell I have run 250mg test/200 deca per week and had gains. That would be just fine for you. If you are looking to put on some mass, make sure you are getting enough protein, if you need to then supplement with shakes. Eat right, train hard, and you will get results.

 

[suaveyankees]

I assume you're not really looking to grow much. If that's the case then you'll do just fine with those doses. You'll grow a little and will most likely get all the side effects you would get using body builder doses. (That's why it makes no sense to use doses that small)

even if i was to use a higher dose palm beach would most likely not allow it. So if i was to use higher dose how do you go around it. And yes i want to get big since im 40 with 5 boys i dont need to make any more babys

 

[Ulter]

It won't keep you from making babies. They couldn't care less if you supplement what they give you. And they wouldn't know anyway. If you want to grow then use 500mg of test and you can keep the deca the same.

 

[suaveyankees]

It won't keep you from making babies. They couldn't care less if you supplement what they give you. And they wouldn't know anyway. If you want to grow then use 500mg of test and you can keep the deca the same.

ok so where would i get the 500mg the only give me enough for 6 month supply if i shoot 2 times a week which would be 400mg then i will be short.

 

[Ulter]

You're not allowed to ask that here. Now you'll get 200 PM's from people wanting to sell you steroids and rip you off.

 

[suaveyankees]

You're not allowed to ask that here. Now you'll get 200 PM's from people wanting to sell you steroids and rip you off.

lol thanks i guess the same thing that happened last week requesting a loan through lending tree and received 100 calls before lunch time.

 

[dsh89]

LOL yeah same deal except you will get nothing for your cash from scammers. Seriously bro, I would just stick with the dose you are at now for 10 weeks. you should be able to put on about 20 lbs in ten weeks with that dose. Just get some PCT in place so you do not lose your gains.

 

[suaveyankees]

LOL yeah same deal except you will get nothing for your cash from scammers. Seriously bro, I would just stick with the dose you are at now for 10 weeks. you should be able to put on about 20 lbs in ten weeks with that dose. Just get some PCT in place so you do not lose your gains.

PCT??? I dont know all the language yet sorry. Now that im asking 1 dumb question i might as well add another. What is this winnie i hear everyone talking about.

 

[dsh89]

Winnie is Winstrol(Stanozolol) another steroid. Read the Newbie stickie posted in this forum, It will help you a lot. Also, there is a PCT forum. By the way, PCT is post-cycle therapy, it is so you keep your gains and get your natural test production back.