I just don't get it?

[smoke67]

I read allot of posts dealing with many issues. The issue of clomid and how some guys get depressed and emotional. I do not have this problem. However, nolva is another subject. This stuff makes me crazy. I don't mean depressed, It's like my thought process is screwed up.
I had some issues with gyno my last cycle and had to dance with the devil (nolva) for the remainder of the cycle. I thought I would go nuts!
Anybody else have this problem?

 

[acneman]

I read allot of posts dealing with many issues. The issue of clomid and how some guys get depressed and emotional. I do not have this problem. However, nolva is another subject. This stuff makes me crazy. I don't mean depressed, It's like my thought process is screwed up.
I had some issues with gyno my last cycle and had to dance with the devil (nolva) for the remainder of the cycle. I thought I would go nuts!
Anybody else have this problem?

i think that any drug that effect hormones/is hormones/replaces hormones/blocks hormones etc etc can have an emotional side
some more than others
nolva less than most but im confident you are not the only one

 

[solidspine]

I have taken novadex with every cycle and pct for the past 10 years, on it right now,


Have not had any problems that I know of, because of nolvadex,


I stay away from Clomid, anadrol and maybe DNP but everything else seems to be manageable,

Sorry you can’t use nolvadex, have you tried AIFM, I like that a lot,

Have been using with liquidex, & nolvadex for my anti-e’s

 

[smoke67]

I use liquidex as my base anti e with no probs. It's just the nolva I seem to have probs with. I will say the longer I am on it the sided seem to lessen but DAMN, getting to that point is a bitch. I just have never heard of anyone else complaining of this.

K to you!!!!

 

[acneman]

I have taken novadex with every cycle and pct for the past 10 years, on it right now,


Have not had any problems that I know of, because of nolvadex,


I stay away from Clomid, anadrol and maybe DNP but everything else seems to be manageable,

Sorry you can’t use nolvadex, have you tried AIFM, I like that a lot,

Have been using with liquidex, & nolvadex for my anti-e’s

wassup big brotha

absolutely
an anti aromatase (aromasin is popular) should be your first line of defense against test sides
however if you start to get the tes gyno symptoms you gotta go with the nolva no matter the sides. progestins are for another post. some like solid and myself notice no sides from nolva
luckly with emotional sides like these your knowledge is your best defense
knowing the sides are comming and preparing your self mentally will help you to avoid a lot of it
"manageable" is the perfect word

 

[acneman]

I use liquidex as my base anti e with no probs. It's just the nolva I seem to have probs with. I will say the longer I am on it the sided seem to lessen but DAMN, getting to that point is a bitch. I just have never heard of anyone else complaining of this.

K to you!!!!

what dosage you usin??
http://www.medicinenet.com/tamoxifen-oral/article.htm
TAMOXIFEN - ORAL
SIDE EFFECTS: mental or mood changes,


stated as rare

 

[solidspine]

If novladex bothers you, simply don’t use it,

I stay away from Clomid, I know it works, but can’t handle the sides.


Not worth the aggregation.

 

[smoke67]

I have run up to 40mgs a day but when gyno issues subsided, I dropped to 25mgs a day. I does'nt matter what dose I use, after about 5 days on the nolva and I feel crazy as a loon. My wife calls them my crazy pills. LMAO

 

[acneman]

I have run up to 40mgs a day but when gyno issues subsided, I dropped to 25mgs a day. I does'nt matter what dose I use, after about 5 days on the nolva and I feel crazy as a loon. My wife calls them my crazy pills. LMAO

i agree with solid that you should stay away if possible
but the fact is that i know of nothing thats gonna stop gyno quicker or better than nolva when you are already usin an anti aromatase

mabey next cycle try aromasin or aifm
ive seen some on here like italian muscle state that arimadex just wasnt good enough for them in that department

if your wife is able to joke about it then i think your handling it well
good luck

 

[Selene]

wassup big brotha

absolutely
an anti aromatase (aromasin is popular) should be your first line of defense against test sides
however if you start to get the tes gyno symptoms you gotta go with the nolva no matter the sides. progestins are for another post. some like solid and myself notice no sides from nolva
luckly with emotional sides like these your knowledge is your best defense
knowing the sides are comming and preparing your self mentally will help you to avoid a lot of it
"manageable" is the perfect word

Very good mon cheri

 

[smoke67]

i agree with solid that you should stay away if possible
but the fact is that i know of nothing thats gonna stop gyno quicker or better than nolva when you are already usin an anti aromatase

mabey next cycle try aromasin or aifm
ive seen some on here like italian muscle state that arimadex just wasnt good enough for them in that department

if your wife is able to joke about it then i think your handling it well
good luck

I was considering that route (aifm of aromasin) on the next run. I am planning a sust, var, hgh run in the early part of the year. I would very much like to get through it with no probs, especially feeling like a nut.

I am a little uneasy about eye issues with clomid. I have used it several times and have a few floaters in one eye (spots) so I will stay away if possible.

Thanks for the comments!!!

 

[thegoodfoods]

I have run up to 40mgs a day but when gyno issues subsided, I dropped to 25mgs a day. I does'nt matter what dose I use, after about 5 days on the nolva and I feel crazy as a loon. My wife calls them my crazy pills. LMAO

how long does it take for the gyno to subside? i've been taking from 40-80mg nolva ed for my sore nipples that started two weeks ago. they're still sore. and can you build up a tolerance to nolva? i hope not

 

[gettinripped]

funny cuz i was worried about the sides from clomid. been running it for 2 weeks now, started at 100mg ed and now down to 50mg ed with no sides to mention. or at least that i've noticed.

 

[justinjones1963]

I'm a mental fruit-loop. I battle depression and running cycles always leads to some mood swing here and there. The key is recognizing it and adapting your behavior around it. It is all about control. It is hard but I manage.

If it bother you that much run something else. I use AIFM. It is dirt cheap and effective.

 

[BigCracker]

how long does it take for the gyno to subside? i've been taking from 40-80mg nolva ed for my sore nipples that started two weeks ago. they're still sore. and can you build up a tolerance to nolva? i hope not

Using AS is a crapshoot-nolva may work fine for some. but not for others. Also, once gyno starts a lot of times there's no turning back and it continues to get worse-esp when you go off. Lucky you. Start shopping for training bras.