I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are you a MARINE? got a question

[Razorguns]

3,000 lives were sacrificed so oil and defence leaders could make their bucks.

but joe and jane hamburger would be outraged if they heared the truth.

so the govt makes up this bullshit about wmd's and 'freedoms for iraqis' (lol - like we care about freedoms for poor arabs) to convince people to sacrifice themselves.

nobody, i repeat nobody, sacrifice themselves w/o thinking there's something in it for them. all wars are fough for elitists purposes; but lies are told instead to sway the masses. usualy the word 'freedom' is invoked.

 

[myway]

My first true love was/is a Marine. His life has been destroyed. He's still alive. He's in Iraq at this very moment..... again. Every time I see him or hear from him it seems like more is missing. He really loves the Marines. He seems to really want to be the best at whatever they need for him to be, even now, 13 years after he started. Now, he needs the Marines because it's the only thing he seems to have left. I don't know what has happened to him but he seems stuck on survive. Everytime he gets back home, everything falls apart for him. He can't keep a relationship. Family ties, which were once strong, are now destroyed. He just seems to live for the moment and just get by.... barely. He is very hard to reach.... even when he's right in front of you. If you get him drunk enough, he'll either start a fight or call me(or his mom or aunt) and tell me how much he hates himself. He hasn't always been this way. I remember years ago, he wasn't the same. He looked forward to holidays with his family. He would call and sound SO excited to be flying home on leave. He just wanted to be a Marine like his father, grandfather, uncles, and so on. Years ago, he said he was going to "do the right thing" and make his family proud. Now, the only future he speaks about is when he's leaving or gonna be back. Now, his family only likes him when he's gone.They are pissed at him while he's here but only write to him after he's been gone awhile. He sounds dead on the phone. He has for the last 2 years. I know not all people turn out like him. Maybe he wasn't meant for the job. I appreciate what he does but I feel like we have already lost him to this war or maybe one he waged on himself.

 

[Razorguns]

Re: I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are

My first true love was/is a Marine. His life has been destroyed. He's still alive. He's in Iraq at this very moment..... again. Every time I see him or hear from him it seems like more is missing. He really loves the Marines. He seems to really want to be the best at whatever they need for him to be, even now, 13 years after he started. Now, he needs the Marines because it's the only thing he seems to have left. I don't know what has happened to him but he seems stuck on survive. Everytime he gets back home, everything falls apart for him. He can't keep a relationship. Family ties, which were once strong, are now destroyed. He just seems to live for the moment and just get by.... barely. He is very hard to reach.... even when he's right in front of you. If you get him drunk enough, he'll either start a fight or call me(or his mom or aunt) and tell me how much he hates himself. He hasn't always been this way. I remember years ago, he wasn't the same. He looked forward to holidays with his family. He would call and sound SO excited to be flying home on leave. He just wanted to be a Marine like his father, grandfather, uncles, and so on. Years ago, he said he was going to "do the right thing" and make his family proud. Now, the only future he speaks about is when he's leaving or gonna be back. Now, his family only likes him when he's gone.They are pissed at him while he's here but only write to him after he's been gone awhile. He sounds dead on the phone. He has for the last 2 years. I know not all people turn out like him. Maybe he wasn't meant for the job. I appreciate what he does but I feel like we have already lost him to this war or maybe one he waged on himself.

he needs intervention - otherwise, he'll be like one of those vietnam vets lowered to living off the streets and begging as they enter their older years. and their govt has wayyy long forgotten about them.

 

[Megalomaniac]

3,000 lives were sacrificed so oil and defence leaders could make their bucks.

but joe and jane hamburger would be outraged if they heared the truth.

so the govt makes up this bullshit about wmd's and 'freedoms for iraqis' (lol - like we care about freedoms for poor arabs) to convince people to sacrifice themselves.

nobody, i repeat nobody, sacrifice themselves w/o thinking there's something in it for them. all wars are fough for elitists purposes; but lies are told instead to sway the masses. usualy the word 'freedom' is invoked.

True. what does this have to do with this kids post? All wars have been fought for the same reason so it isn't like this one is something new and we all should be shocked about it. I was a buck sgt engineer in Kuwait getting ready to punch through the berm and was writting home to my parents about how Halliburton's pipeline was the only thing that was more forward than my unit(mom still has the letters, I hope they are valued someday down the line). Giving terrorists a place to focus other than the states, guaranteeing no wmd's and giving iraqi people a chance at democracy are all by-products of controlling the oil. Do you want me to list some of the other things we are doing globally for the same reasons? None of this takes away from good military service, you did it and deserve respect for it.

 

[myway]

Re: I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are

he needs intervention - otherwise, he'll be like one of those vietnam vets lowered to living off the streets and begging as they enter their older years. and their govt has wayyy long forgotten about them.

I know. A couple of years back, he got into A LOT of trouble. They sent him to therapy but his uncle(also a Marine) said that his sisters were tougher than him. He had some other similiar problems from people.I wish he would have ignored what those idiots said.Plus, his parents were afraid he was gonna get kicked out. He ended up saying he was fine when he wasn't. I guess he didn't matter enough to the people who mattered to him.
Sometimes, I really wish they would kick him out. I know that sounds wrong but he won't get any better where he's at. I wish he would just come home and do construction work or something. He never would. I honestly think he doesn't care about himself anymore. I think getting him to admit he needs help would be impossible. He's too ashamed. I wish he wasn't. He shouldn't be.

 

[Megalomaniac]

Re: I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are

I know. A couple of years back, he got into A LOT of trouble. They sent him to therapy but his uncle(also a Marine) said that his sisters were tougher than him. He had some other similiar problems from people.I wish he would have ignored what those idiots said.Plus, his parents were afraid he was gonna get kicked out. He ended up saying he was fine when he wasn't. I guess he didn't matter enough to the people who mattered to him.
Sometimes, I really wish they would kick him out. I know that sounds wrong but he won't get any better where he's at. I wish he would just come home and do construction work or something. He never would. I honestly think he doesn't care about himself anymore. I think getting him to admit he needs help would be impossible. He's too ashamed. I wish he wasn't. He shouldn't be.

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[myway]

Re: I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are

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I did. Ther's nothin.....?

 

[Razorguns]

Re: I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are

True. what does this have to do with this kids post? All wars have been fought for the same reason so it isn't like this one is something new and we all should be shocked about it. I was a buck sgt engineer in Kuwait getting ready to punch through the berm and was writting home to my parents about how Halliburton's pipeline was the only thing that was more forward than my unit(mom still has the letters, I hope they are valued someday down the line). Giving terrorists a place to focus other than the states, guaranteeing no wmd's and giving iraqi people a chance at democracy are all by-products of controlling the oil. Do you want me to list some of the other things we are doing globally for the same reasons? None of this takes away from good military service, you did it and deserve respect for it.

nothing NOTHING is a better opportunity to make a fast buck - then a declaration of war. the 'reconstruction of iraq' was the greatest money making opportunity we'll ever see in our entire lives. 100x greater than the dot-com days.

the 10-year contracts have already been signed. no chance now.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Re: I have many friends and relatives at WAR time for me to join them and fight. Are

Let's see, most of the worlds leaders in the 50's and 60's fought in WWII. A lot of the leaders durning the 80's and 90's fought in Vietnam. I wonder who will be making decisions in 20 years, good chance folks from Britain, Australia, Korea, Canada and the US that have done tours in the Stan and the Box.

oh you are NOT that obtuse, no waaaay am i biting

 

[stosstruppe]

Rather odd this type of thread on a forum where most people are a model of self interest.

Like someone mentioned already, speak to serving and ex-serving marines. Do they have "look at life" type days like in Britain where you can see what battalion life is like for a day or two for your particular regiment / corps to help give you a better idea?