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I hate needles.. what else are my other option?

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MaCPiMP1n

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I've been researching about AS for a while now. I was gonna go on my first cycle(dbol/sust/winny/clomid last summer but i chickened out =(... btw i'm 20 and i've been training for a bit over 3 years..
I was just wondering if I would get any gains if I were to go on dbol alone(flame suit on =)
25mg ED for 6 weeks.. I was also looking at winny pills but it's quite difficult to find a source here.. What else are my other options? Please comment...

thanks in advance,
andrew
 
Winny
Dbol
Anadrol
Anavar

All these compounds will yeild small gains or hard to keep gains.
I was afraid too, everyone was a one point. It doesn't hurt at all.
 
MaCPiMP1n said:
I've been researching about AS for a while now. I was gonna go on my first cycle(dbol/sust/winny/clomid last summer but i chickened out =(... btw i'm 20 and i've been training for a bit over 3 years..
I was just wondering if I would get any gains if I were to go on dbol alone(flame suit on =)
25mg ED for 6 weeks.. I was also looking at winny pills but it's quite difficult to find a source here.. What else are my other options? Please comment...

thanks in advance,
andrew
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I would just suck it up and inject!!! It's not hard at all. I am doing every day injections now and am loving it! Trust me, once the first one is over you will laugh and realize you worried about nothing

M18
 
Its not bad at all, dont have bitch in your blood, do it bro. :)
 
um u can throw transdermal fina in there too ...
my next cycle will prolly be fina & dbol & maybe winny if i
have enough money

but injecting is not that bad actually ... it doesnt hurt at all
u'll be surprised when u stick the needle in ur ass and u
dont even feel it going in ... just make sure u use a gauge 25
needle
 
D-bol-- 25mg--4 weeks
winny 50mg---4 weeks
arimidex-- whole cycle
clomid post
milk thistle ED
Lot's of cranberry juice!!:)
 
Macpimp, i was once like you. I really know where you're coming from. I think it is a great first experience to do a short, low-dose dbol cycle. If you are anything like I was, then your max flat bench is around 250-275. If you do a light 6 week dbol cycle you will break the great 300 mark, or even 315! It was a huge accomplishment for me. Of course, all of the other weights and reps went up too, but that was what I focused on for my first cycle. You may not believe me, but I weighed around 190 at the time, and ONLY 1-2 dbol a day brought all of my workouts to the next level. If you are new to AS, then go small and dont waste anything. Sure, you could do 25mg ed, but you really might only get more sides then gains versus 10mg ed. I say, try just dbol, and start very low dosage (5-10mg ed). THERE IS NO NEED TO INCREASE DOSAGE IF YOUR WEIGHTS KEEP GOING UP! Just make sure you get some clomid on hand, and do your research! Also, it is a little advanced, and requires a lot of researching, but if you cant get dbol, fina is always available online.....
 
The TEST of Truth, you post some interesting points.

Also, why would it be harder to keep gains from orals? I've read here that it's a good idea to switch to short ester compounds at the end of a cycle to preserve your gains. From this line of thought, it would hamper your ability to keep your gains.
 
You can always try to stick the amps in your ass and hope they work like an anal suppository.

C:toilet:
 
Your only option is to grow some balls and get the needles. C'mon man your 20 freakin years old, hit the Test!
 
LMAO at Citricide's comment. You're not ready for AS bro. Or like Citricide you can always stick it up your ass and see if it will work rectally. Don't be such a damn pussy.
 
MaCPiMP1n said:
I've been researching about AS for a while now. I was gonna go on my first cycle(dbol/sust/winny/clomid last summer but i chickened out =(... btw i'm 20 and i've been training for a bit over 3 years..
I was just wondering if I would get any gains if I were to go on dbol alone(flame suit on =)
25mg ED for 6 weeks.. I was also looking at winny pills but it's quite difficult to find a source here.. What else are my other options? Please comment...

thanks in advance,
andrew
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atleast you are admitting you are afraid of needles. i know a lot of guys that are. but that makes me wonder, if you are afraid of needles how tough could you possibly be? your workouts must be pussy anyway:) stick with creatine kid
 
You guys are really hard on needlephobics! I'm a needle phobic and I'm a bit ashamed of it. I think that if your goal is to be very big and muscular, you don't really have a choice but inject. My goal is to be symmetrical, athletic with some mass. I used finasol and was very happy about the results. Next time, I will stack with a little d-bol and winny. I'm 5'10.5 and my goal is to be about 200 lbs w/10% bodyfat or less. I can't really be bigger than this and still have credibility in the job I'm doing. For me, gear is there to give me an edge, an advantage over the natural BB. But I respect and admire the ones who go all the way.

Andre
 
I always get a kick out of these threads :). I dont know about the rest of you, but pushing weights in the gym can sometimes be pretty damn painfull when your pushing to muscle failure. The pain/burn is a good thing though, but in my opinion the prick of the needle, even doing ED injections is nothing compared to how your workouts should make you feel.
 
Only other option that will give some decend gains is Finaplix applied transdermally (i.e. on the skin). You can use DMSO, Plogel, or Androsol (a prohormone product by Biotest), or even 99% isopropyl alcohol as the compounding agent. Just grind up the pellets and mix. For a topical solution go with a concentration of at least 25mg/ml and apply at least 200mg to the skin per day (that would be 8 ml at 25mg/ml). Only about 25% of the Fina actually makes through the skin so you'll be getting around 50mg/day. Not bad for a cheap transdermal cycle. You can add Winny in at 50mg/day and have a good stack. I would run this for no more than 6 weeks. Since these compounds don't aromatize you have no risk of gyno during the cycle. Use clomid for 3 weeks post to recover natural T production.

See it can be simple.

Alternative is to use the pins - eventually we all get there.

DrG
 
well well I kinda scare of not the pin or sticking myself but I don't like to have those drugs lurking around my body 24/7 that's why I have done a couple of dbol cycle with good result and I have no problem keeping what I have gained and my liver is fine I check it every time! guess im a chicken :(
 
First of all, thanks for all the post =). Much appreciated guys.
Ok back to the needle discussion. I'm not really afraid of needles, it's just that I don't trust myself with one; especially if I'm going to stab myself with it. To make things worst, I think I developed a little phobia when I was 12. For me, I was very unfortunate when my parents decided to leave that piece of skin that use to hang on my ding aling. So ya, picture this(maybe not) before I had to go to the operating room they injected my glutes /w i'm guessing a pain killer(and it was suppose to put me to sleep) of some sort.. anyways, it was the !!!MOST!!! painful thing that I've ever experienced in my life. I remembered creating a big ass commotion in that room and I was balling my eyes out and calling for mommy.. I don't really know what happened after but when I woke up I saw my german's head surrounded /w this stitching.. That was a pretty horrific experience... NOTE: I never minded needles prior to this experience..
LOL - most of you guys are probably laughing your asses off right now.. how embarrassing.. remind me to blur out my face when I post the before & after pics =/

Ok back to the subject and sorry for the long story.
I'm not looking for massive gains, I'm looking at putting on a solid 10#'s to my frame and overcome some minor plateus. I guess my best option would be to go on dbol 10mgED(1-2), 15mgED(3-4), 20mgED(5-6). One more question, is it imperative that I take clomid after I'm done my "pussy" cycle? :-)

Thanks again fella's..
 
HELP WITH INJECTING

I work in the medical field and have training in delivering IM/IV injections. I have a friend with the same worries so everytime he is due for an injection I give the injection to him. Now the needles dont bother him at all. You want to, for the most part try to inject AS, due to the fact that it is alot less toxic to your liver and kidneys, but it also usually makes the effect of the steroid stronger.
 
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