Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
I got better results off PH than AS!
- Thread starter Studly Hungwell
- Start date
I know its illegal and all, but look at the money difference between a competent 8 week PH cycle and an 8 week AAS cycle
PH
4 bottles of 1-T ether gels (molecular nutrition) = $168
2 bottles of 4-Aderm (Avant labs) = $80
Totaling $248
______________________________________________
AAS
1 belt component T-H = $70
2 bottles of T-200 = $100
1 kit for conversion = $35
Totaling $205
________________________________________________
Wow, I thought the AAS would come out cheaper. Its almost not worth the risk. I got some thinking to do
. $40 isnt that big of a difference. I may have to give PH's another try.
PH
4 bottles of 1-T ether gels (molecular nutrition) = $168
2 bottles of 4-Aderm (Avant labs) = $80
Totaling $248
______________________________________________
AAS
1 belt component T-H = $70
2 bottles of T-200 = $100
1 kit for conversion = $35
Totaling $205
________________________________________________
Wow, I thought the AAS would come out cheaper. Its almost not worth the risk. I got some thinking to do
. $40 isnt that big of a difference. I may have to give PH's another try.
Nutri-Wrestler
New member
Lets look at this.
2 10ml bottles of QV enanthate: $44
2 cart finaplix-h: $75
1 conversion kit: $25 dollars
The feeling that you could beat anyones ass: Priceless
Mastercard, bringing juicers together all across the world.
P.S. The total is $144
2 10ml bottles of QV enanthate: $44
2 cart finaplix-h: $75
1 conversion kit: $25 dollars
The feeling that you could beat anyones ass: Priceless
Mastercard, bringing juicers together all across the world.
P.S. The total is $144
Nutri-Wrestler said:
And that oh so gleeful state fast in fleeting come when some 140 pound badass makes rueful the day you ever equated size with "kick-ass" abilities
Not that you said such a thing, but my God the stupidity of those that make such an assumption.That aside (somewhat on topic, and partially aside from the most recent posts), when comparing PH's (and 1-Test) to "gear", one has to compare the substance in question as to its effects. If one tasked use of 2.5 mgs of Halotestin and then used 200 mgs of 1-Test (each, per day), it would be facetious to state "this legal supplement gave me better gains as opposed to using 'real gear' ".
Likewise would it be absurd to compare the effects of 1-Test as one would have with an Anadrol cycle. So this constant comparison (pro or con) of PH's (and 'Pro-Steroids') with "gear" is a meaningless state of contrast unless one establishes the context (and that being, the substances in question [for their qualities] and the amounts used).
Nutri-Wrestler
New member
I would probably run from a 140 pound person, im not confontational. I dunno, give me a week and ill report back
"Have you ever tried Winny? Aside from Fina, out of everything I have tried, I have gotten the best strength response from 100winny/day. I have used it twice(the first time at 50/day)."
Okay, what I should have said is strength AND size, for from what I know about Winstrol, it does not cause tremendous increases in hypertrophy. However, 1-ad/1-test will. In fact, I am willing to be that 1-test transdermals can compete miligram per miligram with Tren transdermals. Don't believe me? Go read the results posts on Par's website.
12 lbs. in two weeks is not uncommon with a REDUCTION in bodyfat while on a 1-test gel, and tremendous strength increases come hand in hand. My wager is that winny, however good it is for cutting and strength, will not put mass on you like that.
That being said, I will confess, I have not tried Winny before, but from what I've read it's a drug that either people love or hate -
Some respond very well to it, others get nothing at all out of it, and cutting seems to be the most popular way to use it.
THE POINT BEING: 1-testosterone is a BONA-FIDE synthetic androgen. It is MUCH MORE POTENT than testosterone. And 1-AD can compare, QUALITATIVELY, with the hardest synthetic androgens when taken at the right QUANTITY. I'm just sick of PH bashers who don't even know WTF they're talking about.
Thaibox, out of curiosity and intrigue, what exactly were your strength gains from 100mg/day of Winny?
Okay, what I should have said is strength AND size, for from what I know about Winstrol, it does not cause tremendous increases in hypertrophy. However, 1-ad/1-test will. In fact, I am willing to be that 1-test transdermals can compete miligram per miligram with Tren transdermals. Don't believe me? Go read the results posts on Par's website.
12 lbs. in two weeks is not uncommon with a REDUCTION in bodyfat while on a 1-test gel, and tremendous strength increases come hand in hand. My wager is that winny, however good it is for cutting and strength, will not put mass on you like that.
That being said, I will confess, I have not tried Winny before, but from what I've read it's a drug that either people love or hate -
Some respond very well to it, others get nothing at all out of it, and cutting seems to be the most popular way to use it.
THE POINT BEING: 1-testosterone is a BONA-FIDE synthetic androgen. It is MUCH MORE POTENT than testosterone. And 1-AD can compare, QUALITATIVELY, with the hardest synthetic androgens when taken at the right QUANTITY. I'm just sick of PH bashers who don't even know WTF they're talking about.
Thaibox, out of curiosity and intrigue, what exactly were your strength gains from 100mg/day of Winny?
Thaibox
New member
Couldn't say exactly due to the other things in the cycle. I ran the winny with test enan and deca, both of which I've used several times. So, I'm able to safely assume that the strength increase compared to other substances was provided by Mr. Strol. I added winny from week 5-9 and felt a considerable jump on strength from weeks 1-4 with 50mg D-bol. I also always had an incredible pump on almost all lifts. The only things I don't like about Winny is the effect it has on my joints and pre-existing injuries requiring me to always take it with deca.
Thaibox -
When I said 600 mg. 1-AD vs. 75 mg Winny per day, I didn't mean 100 mg winny daily plus an unquantified amount of Nandrolone Decanoate and Testosterone Enanthate bi-weeky or however you took them.
600 mg 1-AD a day
Let's assume, for argument's sake, a 15% rate of conversion to 1-testosterone.
90 mg/1-test vs. 75 mg Winny daily.
Winny, according to the levator-ani test, is 6 times as anabolic as Testosterone, and is 0.6 times as androgenic.
1-Test, according to Ciba-Geigy, is up to 7 times as anabolic and I believe 2 to 3 times as androgenic as testosterone.
I still think, based on that rationale and at the proposed dosages, that the 1-AD would compete very well with if not outdo Winny qualitatively, not to mention the fact that with 1-test people don't report the same joint pain issues.
When I said 600 mg. 1-AD vs. 75 mg Winny per day, I didn't mean 100 mg winny daily plus an unquantified amount of Nandrolone Decanoate and Testosterone Enanthate bi-weeky or however you took them.
600 mg 1-AD a day
Let's assume, for argument's sake, a 15% rate of conversion to 1-testosterone.
90 mg/1-test vs. 75 mg Winny daily.
Winny, according to the levator-ani test, is 6 times as anabolic as Testosterone, and is 0.6 times as androgenic.
1-Test, according to Ciba-Geigy, is up to 7 times as anabolic and I believe 2 to 3 times as androgenic as testosterone.
I still think, based on that rationale and at the proposed dosages, that the 1-AD would compete very well with if not outdo Winny qualitatively, not to mention the fact that with 1-test people don't report the same joint pain issues.
