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Hypothetical solution to Suspension soreness

ryno9000

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I've never used test suspension, but as a bodybuilder turned power lifter I am interested in it as I hear the strength is unmatched by an esterfied test. I also hear it leaves you immobile and sore as hell. I know winny does.

Is there any reason test suspension should not be/cannot be injected IV instead of IM? Skip soreness, go right into the bloodstream. Thoughts?
 
I've never used test suspension, but as a bodybuilder turned power lifter I am interested in it as I hear the strength is unmatched by an esterfied test. I also hear it leaves you immobile and sore as hell. I know winny does.

Is there any reason test suspension should not be/cannot be injected IV instead of IM? Skip soreness, go right into the bloodstream. Thoughts?


I have personally never heard of iv use of testosterone, and I think there would be a lot of controversy surrounding it being used this way. That said, I would think it COULD work but only at a very low dose.

I am sure you are aware that when you put it in your muscle, it is slowly transported into your blood stream where it is circulated and begins landing on receptors. By putting it directly into your bloodstream, you are simply bypassing the slow absorption from a muscle depot.

This being said, I think it would be VERY easy to overdo the dosage this way. I am not a doctor, but I have a hard time believing that way too much testosterone at once wouldn't have some negative impact on your body. Maybe it isn't very bad, but I just don't see how it can be very good. But then again, maybe it is like vitamin C where whatever your body can't use is simply eliminated from the body?

Considering the half life of, say, testosterone enanthate and a 500mg/week dose, and the half life of testosterone itself, I would think somewhere between 3 and 5 mg could be injected iv every 2 hours or so safely. This is just based on some quick math, so definitely do your own math based on how much testosterone ester you normally run.

But within a day of mainlining testosterone base every 2 hours, you will be looking like a straight up junkie.

So, in short, I personally wouldn't recommend doing it, nor would I ever personally consider it. However, I could maybe see running a regular long ester, and then right before a competition doing maybe 5 or 6 mg of base iv for a major boost in strength.

Is talking about this even allowed? Any other thoughts on this? Am I banned yet?:worried:
 
I would not inject anything IV that does not dissolve in water or saline.

I actually started thinking about this right after I posted, so I'm glad you said something.

I didn't even think about it, but definitely DO NOT inject the aqueous suspension. Unless we are talking micronized testosterone, you are asking for bad problems.

But then I thought about oil based testosterone base. I have to imagine that when esters of testosterone are injected I.M. that both the test and the oil find their way into the bloodstream.

So I would also think that oil based test base would be okay i.v. especially considering the low dose idea. I don't know what concentration test base would hold at in oil, but even if it is only 50mg/ml and you are using a 5mg dose, that is only 1/10th (0.1) cc's.

I can't say that I would do it, nor can I suggest it, but to be fair I have seen people put a lot more of a lot worse in their veins.
 
I have to admit after reading this post was thinking about this as well but didn't reply in fear that someone would try it :) but perhaps IV testosterone complexed with HPBCD would work. I know HPBCD is safe to IV and also know that testosterone base complexes well. Then I was thinking about something like an insulin pump filled with complexed testosterone. Laying on the bench giving yourself a quick dose before a heavy set lol.
 
I've never used test suspension, but as a bodybuilder turned power lifter I am interested in it as I hear the strength is unmatched by an esterfied test. I also hear it leaves you immobile and sore as hell. I know winny does.

Is there any reason test suspension should not be/cannot be injected IV instead of IM? Skip soreness, go right into the bloodstream. Thoughts?

Please don't inject ANYTHING IV, period. There are just too many things that can go wrong. I had a client almost die when he chose to disregard my advice and injected lasix IM.
 
I appreciate the input- and believe me this is pure theory, I'm not planning on doing this.

But suspension particles are smaller than actual blood cells (I think) so what complications could arise?

Semi-related: how to prevent suspension soreness??
 
if you want to experience something similar to tren cough then go for it.. i would imagine it would be brutal.

otherwise find a source that can tolerable prop.. they exist.. i was skeptical about primo cause pharma grade i am in agony and i found some that is painless

there is no magic thing to prevent soreness.. you can try warming the oil blah blah blah.. all this makes very little difference in my experience.. the only real way is to find a source that is smart enough to hook you up with painfree stuff
 
I appreciate the input- and believe me this is pure theory, I'm not planning on doing this.

But suspension particles are smaller than actual blood cells (I think) so what complications could arise?

Semi-related: how to prevent suspension soreness??

If it is a well-made suspension from a skilled/talented/experienced maker, then yes. But I have had suspensions that wouldn't go through a 23gauge.

Something about flocculation. Non polar molecules in polar solvents. Something like that.
 
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