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Hypothetical question Re: drunk driving

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Hypothetically speaking....

If someone is wasted drunk (i.e. slurring speech, crossed eyes, stumbling) and they insist on getting behind the wheel despite many warnings that if they do so, the cops will be called (for their safety but more importantly the safety of OTHERS), and when they leave, the cops are called and they are arrested and convicted of DUI.....whose fault is it that they were arrested? The drunk driver's fault? Or the person who called the cops?
 
Drunk driver's fault, they are the ones in the wrong. The other person is looking out for their best interests even though it may not seem that way at first.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
the drunk, he shoudnt have put his friend in the situation of HAVING to call the cops on him
 
Bors,

It's the driver's fault. But stop trying to be everyone's Mom. The overwhelming majority of drunk drivers don't hurt anyone.
 
It is the person who got too wasted and decided to drive in the first place. But personally, I've never driven when I was too wasted to drive.
 
Well if the guy is that drunk then it's his fault.

I feel sorry for the people who get DUIs for blowing around .1 though. That isn't very intoxicated IMO. The difference can be a beer and the guys life can get rocked.
 
Neither the driver or friend are at fault. All the blame rests solely on the arresting officer, the hard-ass bastard can't give a guy a break?

Seriously, though, I'd rather wake up in jail the next morning for a DUI than for vehicular homocide or manslaughter.
 
tbuz67 said:
Neither the driver or friend are at fault. All the blame rests solely on the arresting officer, the hard-ass bastard can't give a guy a break?

.

you wanna drive on the roads with somebody that is so drunk his buds call the cops on him?
i don't
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Bors,

It's the driver's fault. But stop trying to be everyone's Mom. The overwhelming majority of drunk drivers don't hurt anyone.

My uncle was killed by a drunk driver on his wedding rehersal day.
 
daisyduke6 said:
My uncle was killed by a drunk driver on his wedding rehersal day.

Yeah, but you gotta remember, MattTheSkywalker is the same person that spent over $20K to beat a DUI. He can do no wrong.
 
the driver for sure,I had to call the cops on someone once for doing that,I hate people who do that,but cant say I havent driven after a few to many once
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Bors,

It's the driver's fault. But stop trying to be everyone's Mom. The overwhelming majority of drunk drivers don't hurt anyone.
That has to be the stupidest post I have ever read by you. Even if it was meant to be sarcastic.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Bors,

It's the driver's fault. But stop trying to be everyone's Mom. The overwhelming majority of drunk drivers don't hurt anyone.


Dude, matt, that reasoning is in poor taste. I've had a DUI, and basically I felt fucked by the law - spent 12k on a lawyer and we did what we could. If there's anything that the whole experience taught me its that drinking and driving is not acceptable. I dont preach it to anyone, I will inform them that what they're about to be doing is not worth the risks and give them a little insight to the law.
 
Smurfy said:
Hypothetically speaking....

If someone is wasted drunk (i.e. slurring speech, crossed eyes, stumbling) and they insist on getting behind the wheel despite many warnings that if they do so, the cops will be called (for their safety but more importantly the safety of OTHERS), and when they leave, the cops are called and they are arrested and convicted of DUI.....whose fault is it that they were arrested? The drunk driver's fault? Or the person who called the cops?

Smurfy, was that you who called the cops on my last weekend?

I was soooo drunk I don't remember anything in the cell. When I woke up my underwear were on backwards :worried:
 
If it's a member of the family or a close friend I wouldn't let them get anywhere near their car regardless of how much they insist.

Last thing in the world I'd do would be to call the fuzz.
 
If this is a trick question, then the answer is Driver.

The key to it, is the word "fault". It canNOT be the friend's "fault" for the guy getting arrested because the intent of the friend was to stop the driver and keep him and others from harm. So "fault" would not be accurate dictionary.

Using "fault" as the key word in this little puzzle of yours, missy, changes everything.

EVERYTHING. e





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My father is a science teacher here in IL. One day the kids were all excited about a question in the previous class which was health. The question was if a boy takes advantage of a drunken girl after prom and the girl gets pregnant, whos fault is it. OF course my father says it's the girls, she shouldn't have illegally drank causing her inhibitions to lower... of course later he told them the boy, but still it was funny

So yeah, I say the drunk driver

Whiskey
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
But stop trying to be everyone's Mom. The overwhelming majority of drunk drivers don't hurt anyone.
Werd...
I drove drunk everyday for years, never even got a speeding ticket.
 
the drunk driver. if they still get in the car knowing that the cops are on their way, theyre frankly out of control and should be nipple clamped to a tree until the booze wears off

if you can afford to drink at a bar, you can afford an alcohol tester, or a cab.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
the drunk driver. if they still get in the car knowing that the cops are on their way, theyre frankly out of control and should be nipple clamped to a tree until the booze wears off

if you can afford to drink at a bar, you can afford an alcohol tester, or a cab.
This guys so good looking and so smart :qt:
 
Was this person drinking Miller or Budweiser? If they were drinking Budweiser then it's the beer company's fault. If they were drinking Miller then it's the drunk's fault. :)
 
it's the mother's fault for giving birth. i'm not sure which mother, so i blame them all.

also, i don't think it's right that god should get out of this without catching some serious heat.
 
Would the drunk driver have been pulled over if the cops hadn't been called? If not, then I say it's the fault of the rat who decided to be a busybody and cost their friend $10,000+ in legal expenses.
 
Jay Cartwright said:
If it's a member of the family or a close friend I wouldn't let them get anywhere near their car regardless of how much they insist.

Last thing in the world I'd do would be to call the fuzz.
if one of my family members tried getting in the car drunk after i told them not to, id swing the mofo around by the fuzz :evil:
 
daisyduke6 said:
My uncle was killed by a drunk driver on his wedding rehersal day.

I am sorry for your loss. My uncle was killed by falling debris from a skyscraper; an ironworkers lunchbox fell on him and caused a brain hemorrhage. He died a few days later.

One bad event does not make public policy; if it did we would ban cars altogether.

And skyscrpaers.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
That has to be the stupidest post I have ever read by you. Even if it was meant to be sarcastic.

Drunk driving kills fewer people than speeding. And most drunk drivers don't hurt anyone. The hype around driving drunk is as overblown as saying "steroids are bad".

A lot of the anti-DUI stuff is nothing more propaganda; in the US, 25 years of propaganda and legislation have had no effect on the DUI death rates. No effect. They are having no effect because there is no problem to fix. People will always die in car accidents. It is one of the classic "quanitiy of life" vs. "quality of life" arguments wherein people will accept a slight decrease in the quantity of life for a massive increase in quality.
 
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Drunk driving kills fewer people than speeding. And most drunk drivers don't hurt anyone. The hype around driving drunk is as overblown as saying "steroids are bad".

A lot of the anti-DUI stuff is nothing more propaganda; in the US, 25 years of propaganda and legislation have had no effect on the DUI death rates. No effect. They are having no effect because there is no problem to fix. People will always die in car accidents. It is one of the classic "quanitiy of life" vs. "quality of life" arguments wherein people will accept a slight decrease in the quantity of life for a massive increase in quality.

As always my dear you make a good argument but there is no way in hell I am agreeing with you. It is one thing to make a choice to be put your own life in danger completely another thing to put the life of an innocent person in danger. That is what you do every time you get in the drivers set after having one to many. Sorry there is just not justifying it and if in this case I am a slave to the media so be it.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
As always my dear you make a good argument but there is no way in hell I am agreeing with you. It is one thing to make a choice to be put your own life in danger completely another thing to put the life of an innocent person in danger. That is what you do every time you get in the drivers set after having one to many. Sorry there is just not justifying it and if in this case I am a slave to the media so be it.

:busy:

Sorry lost track of the topic.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Drunk driving kills fewer people than speeding. And most drunk drivers don't hurt anyone. The hype around driving drunk is as overblown as saying "steroids are bad".

A lot of the anti-DUI stuff is nothing more propaganda; in the US, 25 years of propaganda and legislation have had no effect on the DUI death rates. No effect. They are having no effect because there is no problem to fix. People will always die in car accidents. It is one of the classic "quanitiy of life" vs. "quality of life" arguments wherein people will accept a slight decrease in the quantity of life for a massive increase in quality.

Agreed. And the MADD types who wish to continue tightening the rules will have no effect. What's the point of lowering the legal limit from .1 to .08 to .06 won't save a single life, becuase it's the guys who are blowing .25 and above that are losing control.

This is just more political correctness gone rampant.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Drunk driving kills fewer people than speeding. And most drunk drivers don't hurt anyone. The hype around driving drunk is as overblown as saying "steroids are bad".

A lot of the anti-DUI stuff is nothing more propaganda; in the US, 25 years of propaganda and legislation have had no effect on the DUI death rates. No effect. They are having no effect because there is no problem to fix. People will always die in car accidents. It is one of the classic "quanitiy of life" vs. "quality of life" arguments wherein people will accept a slight decrease in the quantity of life for a massive increase in quality.

agreed.

i've got a dui and i don't want another so i don't drink and drive anymore. never worried about getting in a accident, always worried about going to jail and losing driving privledges
 
I was an awesome drunk driver haha.

When you're really hammered you just put the car on cruise control for a couple mph over the speed limit and all you have to do is stay between the lines.

The laws are too harsh regarding DUI's but ultimately its a responsibility thing. You have to think, I dont want to be responsible for potentially injuring other people and then getting fucked by the law.
 
Smurfy said:
Hypothetically speaking....

If someone is wasted drunk (i.e. slurring speech, crossed eyes, stumbling) and they insist on getting behind the wheel despite many warnings that if they do so, the cops will be called (for their safety but more importantly the safety of OTHERS), and when they leave, the cops are called and they are arrested and convicted of DUI.....whose fault is it that they were arrested? The drunk driver's fault? Or the person who called the cops?
the asshole who called the cops
no cops=no dui
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Drunk driving kills fewer people than speeding. And most drunk drivers don't hurt anyone. The hype around driving drunk is as overblown as saying "steroids are bad".

A lot of the anti-DUI stuff is nothing more propaganda; in the US, 25 years of propaganda and legislation have had no effect on the DUI death rates. No effect. They are having no effect because there is no problem to fix. People will always die in car accidents. It is one of the classic "quanitiy of life" vs. "quality of life" arguments wherein people will accept a slight decrease in the quantity of life for a massive increase in quality.
my question?
you've had a collision and you haven't been drinking
what's your fucking excuse?
 
UA_Iron said:
I was an awesome drunk driver haha.

When you're really hammered you just put the car on cruise control for a couple mph over the speed limit and all you have to do is stay between the lines.

The laws are too harsh regarding DUI's but ultimately its a responsibility thing. You have to think, I dont want to be responsible for potentially injuring other people and then getting fucked by the law.

great idea and i agree with everything matt has said.. majority do not hurt people..
 
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