DOB: 10/59 Height: 5’8”
My general health is excellent except for some slight elevations regarding certain items on my cardiac lipid profiles. I currently take no medications for anything and only take natural substances such as Red Yeast Rice, Policosanol and Niacin for my lipid profile although I limit the Red Yeast.
IF THE SUPPS AREN'T NORMALIZING YOUR LIPID PROFILE, THEN DROP THEM. GIVEN YOUR BF%, A FAT LOSS PROGRAM WILL PROBABLY NORMALIZE YOUR LIPIDS.
November 2002
42 Years Old - 155 lbs – 22% body fat
BF% IS TOO HIGH TO BEGIN USING AAS. AT THIS LEVEL OF BF, YOU WILL AROMATIZE TESTOS LIKE CRAZY, EVEN WITH AROMASIN. I ALWAYS ADVISE MY OVERWIGHT CLIENTS TO LOSE BF FIRST BEFORE BEGINNING ANY AAS/BULKING CYCLE.
Using ZMA, Tribulus, Chrysin, Muira Puama, not working out but generally fit & slim.
Total Test: 666/714
Free Test: 17.58
GREAT NATURAL LEVELS. AGAIN, YOU SHOULD AHVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THESE LEVELS WITH PROPER DIET AND WEIGHT TRAINING. GET THE BF DOWN TO 10-12%, RETEST AND SEE WHERE YOU ARE AT.
March 2003
Stopped natural supplements, went back to gym and lifting
Blood work prior to cycle:
Total Test: 598 low and I would like a regular level of 718-827 and a dosing level about 1000-1200
Free Test: 14.59 low and I would like a regular level of 21-26.5 and dosing level that is higher
Estradiol: 43 high and I would like a regular level of 10-30
DHT: 52 high and I would like a regular level of 10-50
DHEA: 495 good and I would like a regular level of 400-560
LH: lab screwed up and didn’t take this test but I would like a regular level of 6.2-9.3 ???
IGF-1: 171 low and I would like a regular level of >350
PSA: 1.3 good and I would like a regular level of <2.6
I KNEW YOUR ESTRADIOL WOULD BE HIGH--FROM YOUR BF%. ALSO, REALLY INCOMPLETE BASELINE TESTING--NO FSH, NO LH, NO PROLACTIN, NO CORTISOL, NO LIPID PROFILE, NO CBC, AND NO COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL.
March 25, 2003
Started a Cyp cycle of 100mg per week, after 5 weeks no significant gain in weight or body fat composition. Increased appetite, increased strength, sexual appetite slightly increased(always rather high so again hard to tell)
NOT SURPRISING. YOU NEEDED AN ANTIESTROGEN BIG TIME. YOUR ESTRADIOL LEVELS ARE PROBABLY THROUGH THE ROOF. THIS COULD ALSO ELEVATE PROLACTIN.
April 29, 2003
Week 6 - increased my dose to 200 mg per week(100mg 2x/week) and lengthen cycle from 10 weeks to 12
A LONGER CYCLE AND NO ANTI-ESTROGEN.
May 20, 2003
Week 9 - high energy level, good strength, good sex drive, huge appetite. My weight and body fat really wasn’t changing much though and I was monitoring it everyday so I was some still concerned
Added Tomoxifen through the end of the 12 week cycle
WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? FAT LOSS? STRENGTH/SIZE AT 22%BF? THIS LOOKS LIKE "PUTZING" AROUND. THEN ADDING NOLVADEX AT THE END OF THE CYCLE--WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? NOW YOU HAVE HIGH TESTOS LEVELS AND HIGH FREE ESTRADIOL LEVELS CIRCULATING. BOTH ARE VERY SUPPRESSIVE TO THE TESTES AND TO THE PITUITARY.
June 16, 2003
Week 12 – end of Cyp cycle, I had gained about 4 lbs and lost about 2-3 % body fat. 160 lbs - 19.5% body fat My body “looked” better and I was definitely getting comments about “looking” good. I had expected more from the cycle though and was somewhat disappointed especially since I was working out hard and following a significantly modified and improved diet plus I was eating a large amount of food. I was curious what a second cycle would do for me and if it was worth it.
I didn’t do any blood work during the 12 week cycle
SINCE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR GOAL IN MIND (GAINING LBM AND LOSING BF IS NOT A REALISTIC GOAL), YOUR RESULTS WERE PROBABLY FINE. NO BLOODWORK-SHAME. WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO VERIFY ALL THE PROBLEMS YOU CREATED FOR YOURSELF.
July 11, 2003
Week 16, my fourth “off cycle” week decided to do a two week cleanup cycle of Clomid and HCG
INADEQUATE RECOVERY. YOU WAITED TOO LONG TO BEGIN USING HCG. MY RECOVERY PROGRAM BEGINS THE WEEK AFTER LAST AAS INJECTION. IT IS IMPERATIVE TO BEGIN HCG/NOLVADEX ASAP TO QUICKLY GET THE TESTES BACK TO FULL SIZE. THE NOLVADEX WOULD STIMULATE THE PITUITARY TO BEGIN SECRETING LH/FSH AGAIN AND IT WOULD BLOCK INCREASING ESTRADIOL LEVELS. YOU CREATED A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR YOURSELF BY ALLOWING YOUR ESTRADIOL TO SKYROCKET DURING YOUR CYCLE. YOU WANT ESTRADIOL LEVELS TO BE VERY LOW DURING THE CYCLE. ONLY THE LIVER WILL BE ABLE TOR EMOVE THE FREE ESTRADIOL AND THAT TAKES TIME. AND IT STRESSES THE LIVER. SO, TO RECAP, POOR AAS CYCLE, LACK OF ANTI-ESTROGEN (AROMASIN OR ARIMIDEX) USE DURING CYCLE, AND INADEQUATE RECOVERY CYCLE.
August 11 & 22, 2003
Could “feel” things were not right, strength, energy and sex drive were low, “state of mind” was not quite right either but work and personal pressures were enormous so it did not overly concern me. I was losing weight.
Total Test 357, lower than ever and Free Test 12.8, my doctor noticed the low testosterone levels and prescribed Androgel for me and wanted to see me get blood work in another month. My DHT level was very high.
I started using the Androgel
Total Test: 357 low and I would like a regular level of 718-827 and a dosing level about 1000-1200
Free Test: 12.8 low and I would like a regular level of 21-26.5 and dosing level that is higher
Estradiol: 38 high and I would like a regular level of 10-30
DHT: 148.2 high and I would like a regular level of 10-50
DHEA: 536 good and I would like a regular level of 400-560
LH: 3.3 low and I would like a regular level of 6.2-9.3 ???
IGF-1: 178 low and I would like a regular level of >350
PSA: lab screwed up and didn’t take this test but I would like a regular level of <2.6
BASED ON TESTOS AND LH LEVELS, YOU ARE SUPPRESSED. THE ANDROGEL IS A FOOLISH ADDITION, FOR IT FURTHER SUPPRESSES THE HPTA.
September, 2003
Joined a Martial Arts program training 3 or 4 times per week, not lifting much due to work schedule. I continued to lose weight and body fat and was looking much thinner.
September 23, 2003
Androlgel for 1 month, feel better but still not quite “right”. I had blood work drawn within 2 hours of my Androgel application: my Testoterone level was elevated to a pretty good range from the Androgel but my other levels are all out of optimal ranges.
Total Test: 705 low and I would like a regular level of 718-827 and a dosing level about 1000-1200
Free Test: 15.6 low and I would like a regular level of 21-26.5 and dosing level that is higher
Estradiol: 31 high and I would like a regular level of 10-30
DHT: 88.4 high and I would like a regular level of 10-50
DHEA: 171 low and I would like a regular level of 400-560
LH: <1 low and I would like a regular level of 6.2-9.3 ???
IGF-1: not done but I would like a regular level of >350
PSA: .6 good and I would like a regular level of <2.6
YOU ARE STILL SUPPRESSED, THE ANDROGEL IS WHAT IS SHOWING UP AS TOTAL/FREE TESTOS, NOT YOUR NATURAL OUTPUT.
October 18, 2003
Broke a rib and pulled a hamstring in Martial Arts. Slow recovery unable to work out or do any exercise at all for over 2 months.
December 2003
Stopped taking Androgel and started a few natural substances to see if I could get back to a baseline of where I started before my cycle.
January 5, 2004
Started back in my Martial Arts, still not lifting at all.
January 30, 2004
Testosterone levels are MUCH lower than my normal ranges before I ever did the Cyp cycle, Estradiol and DHT have fallen to good ranges for the first time since I have been monitoring them, DHEA and IGF-1 are starting to rise, LH is low and concerns me.
Total Test: 392 low and I would like a regular level of 718-827 and a dosing level about 1000-1200
Free Test: 7.3 low and I would like a regular level of 21-26.5 and dosing level that is higher
Estradiol: 14 good and I would like a regular level of 10-30
DHT: 38.5 good and I would like a regular level of 10-50
DHEA: 381 low and I would like a regular level of 400-560
LH: 1.8 low and I would like a regular level of 6.2-9.3 ???
IGF-1: 201 low and I would like a regular level of >350
PSA: .9 good and I would like a regular level of <2.6
STILL SUPPRESSED AND BACK WHERE YOU STARTED AFTER AAS CYCLE.
February 2004
I haven’t been lifting at and I feel the low Testosterone levels. My strength, energy and sex drive are all low.
During the last 6 months I continued to lose weight and body fat so I am currently 142 Lbs - 15% body fat.
I am particularly concerned at my low LH value.
Using ZMA, Tribulus, Chrysin, Muira Puama, IC3, DHEA, Secregogue
May 2004
Using ZMA, Tribulus, Chrysin, Muira Puama, IC3, DHEA, Secregogue
Testosterone levels are MUCH lower than my normal ranges before I ever did the Cyp cycle, Estradiol, DHEA and DHT good IGF-1 lower than ever, LH is low and concerns me
Total Test: 229 very low and I would like a regular level of 718-827 and a dosing level about 1000-1200
Free Test: 7.9 low and I would like a regular level of 21-26.5 and dosing level that is higher
Estradiol: 14 good and I would like a regular level of 10-30
DHT: 35 good and I would like a regular level of 10-50
DHEA: 454 low and I would like a regular level of 400-560
LH: 2.6 low and I would like a regular level of 6.2-9.3 ???
IGF-1: 149 low and I would like a regular level of >350
PSA: .6 good and I would like a regular level of <2.6
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU MADE EVERY MISTAKE POSSIBLE. HOPEFULLY, YOU HAVEN'T PERMANENTLY DAMAGED YOUR PITUITARY AND TESTES. AN MRI WILL RULE OUT PITUITARY TUMORS. YOU NEED TO DO A PROPER RECOVERY CYCLE (OR TWO).
BEGIN IMMEDIATELY:
WEEKS ONE THRU THREE: 1,000U OF HCG, IM, MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY; 20MG NOLVADEX DAILY; 50MG CLOMID DAILY.
WEEKS FOUR THRU SIX: 20MG NOLVADEX DAILY; 50MG CLOMID DAILY.
WEEKS SEVEN, EIGHT: CLEAN. NEED BLOOD TESTING FOR LIPID PROFILE, TESTOS LEVELS, LH, FSH, ESTRADIOL AND PROLACTIN. REPEAT CYCLE IF NOT RECOVERED.
YOU NEED TO EAT A HIGH PROTEIN, MODERATE CLEAN CARB, LOW CLEAN FAT DIET (LOOKING TO REDUCE CALORIES FOR FAT LOSS). PROPER TRAINING--WEIGHTS AND MARTIAL ARTS ARE FINE TOGETHER. TAKE A MULTIVITAMIN AND A CHELATED MULTIMINERAL DAILY. CUT OUT THE SUPPS FOR NOW..YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO BASICS.
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