Human Growth Hormone - Not unless you HAVE TO!

[Essie]

I know that this is supposed to be AAS only, but with the amount of people wanting to incorporate human growth hormone into their cycles, I figured I'd do a short write up on HGH, post it in 'Science, Biology, Pharmacology' and link it here.

Seriously, HGH is not something you would want to incorporate into your daily life or your AAS lightly. It has MANY advantages ... true ... but there are also certain criteria which I personally feel have to be met before you would require those advantages.

Read more herehttp://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...logy/human-growth-hormone-yes-no-1291903.html

 

[Arabian]

Great article Essie. I have often thought of using HGH however I have heard to many studies where it drastically increases the risk of cancer in users , so I have stayed away from it. Thanks for sharing this Essie, good post..K

 

[stevesmi]

I've been saying this for years but have always been attacked for it.

the cons outweigh the pro's.. if you compete then all bets are off, but otherwise no reason to mess with it if you are young

 

[RickRock13]

There not much point in running GH unless you are trying to get to that next level IMO. Too many people are using it when they dont need it. I will probably never touch it

 

[Essie]

Great article Essie. I have often thought of using HGH however I have heard to many studies where it drastically increases the risk of cancer in users , so I have stayed away from it. Thanks for sharing this Essie, good post..K

Thanks Bud. Yap, it causes growth on a cellular level, and cancer is nothing more than malignant cells, so even if you would've never developed cancer naturally, you might very well end up with it if you decide to run HGH. Hey, sharing is caring and on EF we care! (Corny, I know).

 

[Essie]

I've been saying this for years but have always been attacked for it.

the cons outweigh the pro's.. if you compete then all bets are off, but otherwise no reason to mess with it if you are young

Indeed, if you are a Pro BB & your bread and butter depends on you placing or winning, you gotta do what you gotta do. If age requires and tests confirm, sure ... Otherwise, not a chance!

 

[Essie]

There not much point in running GH unless you are trying to get to that next level IMO. Too many people are using it when they dont need it. I will probably never touch it

For sure Rick. Many People don't fully grasp what they are doing to their bodies when they introduce AAS into it, so it is safe to assume the same for HGH.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

If one wants to go that route then I'd suggest a small amount of Ipamorelin once or twice a day. It releases your own GH. Theres no risk of pituitary shut down. Its infinitely cheaper. Doesn't give blood sugar issues like GHRP-6, 2 will. Is a much "cleaner" peptide than the latter also. Even a simple 100mcg in the A.M. daily will give you way more than you had without using it at all. People get caught up in peptides too with the more is better shit. Ipam/CJC 300mcg each 3x ed ect....fuck that shit. Not to mention something about CJC scares the shit out of me.

Anyways I'm not advocating using Ipam. Just considering it might be a much healthier option for ones little white mice. Not to mention the benefits are notices way faster.

My wanting to use HGH (never have) or using Ipam were never really size or strength related though. It was always for connective tissue/joint support. Tendon repair ect...
But as you guys have said....its the possibility of dealing with the big C word that you may have otherwise never would have been exposed to. Many of these noobs are too young, but when I think anything "hgh" I always think of Dennis Newman first and say nevermind.

 

[digit0x]

If one wants to go that route then I'd suggest a small amount of Ipamorelin once or twice a day. It releases your own GH. Theres no risk of pituitary shut down. Its infinitely cheaper. Doesn't give blood sugar issues like GHRP-6, 2 will. Is a much "cleaner" peptide than the latter also. Even a simple 100mcg in the A.M. daily will give you way more than you had without using it at all. People get caught up in peptides too with the more is better shit. Ipam/CJC 300mcg each 3x ed ect....fuck that shit. Not to mention something about CJC scares the shit out of me.

Anyways I'm not advocating using Ipam. Just considering it might be a much healthier option for ones little white mice. Not to mention the benefits are notices way faster.

My wanting to use HGH (never have) or using Ipam were never really size or strength related though. It was always for connective tissue/joint support. Tendon repair ect...
But as you guys have said....its the possibility of dealing with the big C word that you may have otherwise never would have been exposed to. Many of these noobs are too young, but when I think anything "hgh" I always think of Dennis Newman first and say nevermind.

Zyg (If I recall properly) has had great results from IPAM. I'm going to give it a try eventually.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

It's a good point, I think a lot of steroid abuse and HGH abuse is going on out there in the BB world. It would be great to explain to our brothers and sisters that we should shine away from abusive behavior.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Zyg (If I recall properly) has had great results from IPAM. I'm going to give it a try eventually.

I ran it for 5 months straight on my white mouse. 100mcg 2x ed. Experimented with 150mcg 2x ED(which was better) and even 200mcg pre workout.
I noticed some strength increase, a little fat loss, way more stamina during workout, after a few months I noticed I could eat a little more crap that maybe I shouldn't and it didn't affect me. Joints felt really good and sleep was great.

 

[Essie]

I ran it for 5 months straight on my white mouse. 100mcg 2x ed. Experimented with 150mcg 2x ED(which was better) and even 200mcg pre workout.
I noticed some strength increase, a little fat loss, way more stamina during workout, after a few months I noticed I could eat a little more crap that maybe I shouldn't and it didn't affect me. Joints felt really good and sleep was great.

I noticed that my rat has been showing signs of joint pain affecting it ... especially after his back injury when he came off his wheely-thing. I have seriously considered introducing some GHRP-6 and Ipam at moderate dosages, around 50mcg each fasted mornings and after training.

 

[Essie]

... Many of these noobs are too young, but when I think anything "hgh" I always think of Dennis Newman first and say nevermind.

You see, that is just it. No-one knows if he would have been diagnosed without hgh in the mix eventually or not ... BUUUUT ... for the same price, no-one knows if he would have remained without it had he not used hgh. Anyway, like I said before and I'll say it over and over again ... hgh promotes growth on a cellular level and Cancer is nothing more than a cell which can do NOTHING other than respond to the stimuli and grow.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I noticed that my rat has been showing signs of joint pain affecting it ... especially after his back injury when he came off his wheely-thing. I have seriously considered introducing some GHRP-6 and Ipam at moderate dosages, around 50mcg each fasted mornings and after training.

There is no need to mix the two. In comparison GHRP 6 is crap. Not to mention it can really give you blood glucose problems. I've experienced it.
The difference besides that is that GHRP 2 and 6 both have a saturation point. You can only do so much with it. After a certain dose its not more effective.
With Ipam 50, 100, 150, 200mcg all are effective differently. Ipam will cause the release of every drop of GH stored in your pituitary whereas GHRP will not. The trick is being able to find that dose.

 

[Essie]

Interesting. I have seen the increase in appetite when running GHRP-6 and it is close to driving one insane! I also considered running CJC (no DAC) with GHRP-6 ... seems like there is a nice symbiotic thing going with the 2 of them together.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Interesting. I have seen the increase in appetite when running GHRP-6 and it is close to driving one insane! I also considered running CJC (no DAC) with GHRP-6 ... seems like there is a nice symbiotic thing going with the 2 of them together.

CJC will not increase the spike of GH with will just extend the duration a bit.

 

[Essie]

CJC will not increase the spike of GH with will just extend the duration a bit.

Yeah, and I think the the extention could work very favourably. Instead of having this huge ass spike and then a sudden drop ... you get no spike, but it keeps the levels elevated for longer (which means better repairs) and also less of a sudden 'system-shock' level drop.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Yeah, and I think the the extention could work very favourably. Instead of having this huge ass spike and then a sudden drop ... you get no spike, but it keeps the levels elevated for longer (which means better repairs) and also less of a sudden 'system-shock' level drop.

all it means is you get a greater spike than with hgh. Yes it may not last long but its infinitely better than no spike at all. The green at the bottom is obviously CJC WITH DAC.
I personally would just run Ipam alone. 2xed.

I have monitored blood glucose continuously. Pre pin, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 min post pin. 35 minutes was spike time for me. Then at different times through the day and first thing before getting out of bed. All it really did was raise my glucose 10 points consistently while on it. After spike It would raise it about 20 points then it would settle down.
With GHRP it was doing the same thing but after I stopped monitoring it after two weeks I figured I had it all nailed down. Then I couldn't figure out why I felt all fucked up all the time for a few weeks...checked blood glucose again and it was like 62!! ALL THE TIME!! I was borderline hypo 24/7. Obviously I stopped immediately. Ipam never did that to me in 5 mos.

 

[digit0x]

I ran it for 5 months straight on my white mouse. 100mcg 2x ed. Experimented with 150mcg 2x ED(which was better) and even 200mcg pre workout.
I noticed some strength increase, a little fat loss, way more stamina during workout, after a few months I noticed I could eat a little more crap that maybe I shouldn't and it didn't affect me. Joints felt really good and sleep was great.

Healing old nagging injuries, good sleep, joint help... 3 really great things. Plus fat loss and cardio improvement. All of those things I find slipping with age. Worth it IMO..... executed properly of course.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Healing old nagging injuries, good sleep, joint help... 3 really great things. Plus fat loss and cardio improvement. All of those things I find slipping with age. Worth it IMO..... executed properly of course.

IMHO the key here is its your own GH. Not exogenous synthetic HGH.

 

[Jack steel]

Good thread. Thanks for rleveryone's input!

 

[Essie]

IMHO the key here is its your own GH. Not exogenous synthetic HGH.

Exactumondo!