Hrt

[Curse]

I'm hoping someone can answer this. In regards to HRT, wouldn't using Test be just a " quick fix" to the problem? I had blood work done in June, had a low test level so the Doctor put me on HRT. 400mgs cyp per week. Did this for 10 weeks and felt great.
Had some blood work done last week, my test level was 92, seems I am a candidate for more HRT. Wouldn't it make more sense to try and elevate the natural production of test?

 

[Stillgoing]

Questions:

1- How old are you?
2- Previous use of anabolics?
3- How long have you been off the "HRT"?
4- Was any post cycle therapy conducted (HCG, nolv, clomid, etc)?
5- What were your initial test levels? Had you done any gear previous to that?
6- Do you have any symptoms of low test (low sex drive, low energy, depression, abdominal fat, etc)?

 

[40butpumpin]

I'm hoping someone can answer this. In regards to HRT, wouldn't using Test be just a " quick fix" to the problem? I had blood work done in June, had a low test level so the Doctor put me on HRT. 400mgs cyp per week. Did this for 10 weeks and felt great.
Had some blood work done last week, my test level was 92, seems I am a candidate for more HRT. Wouldn't it make more sense to try and elevate the natural production of test?

bro, hormone replacement therapy, as its name implies, is for people who are hypogonadal, and therefore, cannot produce enough hormone on their own, so need a replacement. it is done under the assumption that you will be on it for life so it isn't meant to be a quick fix but rather a permanent rerplacement.

if your doc thinks that 10 weeks will elevate your natural test levels you need to find another doc. maybe i'm misinterpreting what you're saying here, but that's how it sounds to me.

sure you can try to elevate your own natural production of test, but 10 weeks of exogenous test will only make this harder to do as it will keep supressing your natural production.

you need to either commit to trying to increase your natural production, which may take a while and in which case you cannot use any exogenous form of test, or you can go on permanent HRT. what makes sense is really dependant on whether you can get your natural levels to a normal level and/or whether you want the hassle of doing this. keep in mind, however, most docs will not write you a script for test even if you are just above the low bracket of what's deemed 'normal' by the AMA/FDA. in other words, you may find that you can only get your natural levels to 350ng/ml which a doc would consider normal. this would NOT allow you to be a candidate for hrt but you'd still feel like shit.

but i'm very surprised a doc prescribed you 400mg ew, i have never heard of that before. i had a hell of a time just getting my doc to prescribe 200mg ew.

 

[JerseyDevil]

And is 400mg of Cyp a week a lot for HRT? Im not too up on HRT but from what I read on this board people are hitting ETH or CYP @ 200mg every other week. Either way I hope everything works out Curse.

 

[Curse]

Sorry,
1) 39
2) First cycle was this year 6 weeks of Deca 400 mgs per week, 2nd was a couple of Months months later 10 weeks 400mgs cyp / 200 mgs deca / wk and the last was 5 weeks cyp / prop with 4 weeks of Dbol @ 30mgs ed.
3/4) Been off the last cycle almost a week will start clomid very soon.
5) Sex drive was kind of low, has gotten better , maybe be getting low again. energy has been getting low, no depression, some abdominal and lowere back fat.

Thanks for the help

 

[Stillgoing]

Sorry,
1) 39
2) First cycle was this year 6 weeks of Deca 400 mgs per week, 2nd was a couple of Months months later 10 weeks 400mgs cyp / 200 mgs deca / wk and the last was 5 weeks cyp / prop with 4 weeks of Dbol @ 30mgs ed.
3/4) Been off the last cycle almost a week will start clomid very soon.
5) Sex drive was kind of low, has gotten better , maybe be getting low again. energy has been getting low, no depression, some abdominal and lowere back fat.

Thanks for the help

Yeah ok but what i was obviously getting at was:

1- what was the baseline testosterone levels that resulted in your doctor putting you on HRT? Could you have been shut down at that time from previous anabolic use (let me help you here: if your 39 and you ran deca with no post cycle therapy after the answer is likely a big 'ole YES).

2- How long since you've been off the last "HRT" cycle? Did you do any post cycle therapy for that?

 

[CLOBRO]

Wouldn't it make more sense to try and elevate the natural production of test?

That's the problem is that this cannot be done effectively for most people with drugs or supplements. Some have had success with Avena Sativa but for me it didn't work. So if you have naturally low T, your choice is to live with it and feel like hell with low sex drive, get fat, make no gains in the gym or go on HRT.

It's a no brainer for me.... I am younger then you also. As long as your doc is monitoring you carefully, I see no problem with it.

Are you sure he put you on 400 mg per week? Max is usually 200 mg and most are on 100mg.

 

[Curse]

I don't remember what the first level was when I was put on HRT but I'm pretty sure I was shut down from the Deca, it hit pretty hard.
Just got off a test cycle am starting clomid tomorrow.

If a person does have low test levels is it safe to take test year round as part of HRT?

 

[Curse]

Re: Re: Hrt

Are you sure he put you on 400 mg per week? Max is usually 200 mg and most are on 100mg.

400mg per week, I'm sure. I felt great while on.

 

[Dial_tone]

No doctor is going to put you on 400mg for HRT. Standard would be 100mg'ish and nobody would take Deca for HRT. I believe only test is used.