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trig1967

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I have been on HRT for almost 2 years now at a dose of 300 mg every 2 weeks of test cyp without any time off. I have regular checkups/blood work and everything is normal (bp, cholesterol, PSA, etc). I have gained about 30 lbs in the two years (althought I'm not as lean) for pretty good progress without raising any suspsicions.
However, it seems like I'm gradually getting more bloated, in my face and especially in my gut. I ate all kinds of junk food over New Year's weekend, but even after several days of eating clean, the bloat isnt going down much.
I had always thought that with the very low does of test used in HRT bloat would not be a problem, but now I'm wondering if I'm just going to slowly keep getting a more distended gut.
Any thoughts?
 
Sounds like fat.. Maybe since your body has gotten used to this dose of test, you can't get away with the diet that you got away with before. After holiday eating I have some chest fat & I had a gyno freakout. lol.. If you are worried have your docter check your estrodiol level. Estrogen is what causes bloat from test use. But imo it is prolly just some fat & you need to adjust your diet.. Good luck..
 
My first thought was that maybe I had gained a little more fat. But I had my bf measured and it had not gone up very much. And usually when I start to put on fat, I gain it in the lower portion of the belly and in the love handles. Now, my waist is about 35" (I'm 6', 220lbs), but if I measure my mid section about 2" above my belly button, it's 42"!
So maybe I should have my doctor check my estrodiol level. I have not tried any diuretics yet as I thought that might throw off my system and eventually make things worse.
 
"my waist is about 35" (I'm 6', 220lbs), but if I measure my mid section about 2" above my belly button, it's 42"!"


Trig, you must look like you swallowed a bowling ball! :D
 
trig1967 said:
My first thought was that maybe I had gained a little more fat. But I had my bf measured and it had not gone up very much. And usually when I start to put on fat, I gain it in the lower portion of the belly and in the love handles. Now, my waist is about 35" (I'm 6', 220lbs), but if I measure my mid section about 2" above my belly button, it's 42"!
So maybe I should have my doctor check my estrodiol level. I have not tried any diuretics yet as I thought that might throw off my system and eventually make things worse.
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test at that dose will 99% of the time NOT BE THE CULPRIT.....In my opinion, or theory.....you are getting fat. Plain and simple. Not a flame bro, but 42" is HIGH and is def. a gut........I'm going to wager your belly hangs over your belt when you sit....cut back on the cals, or increase the activity......fat isnt a bad thing, as I'm sure you are strong too, but if you want to reduce the "bloat" check your diet first.
 
OK, its seems the people have spoken. I didn't think that this low a dose of test, even at a longer period of time, would cause much bloat. I'll try cleaning up the diet and adding another cardio session and see if my gut goes down.
Anyone else have anything like this while on HRT for an extended period of time?
 
couple of things about hrt -

you want to keep blood levels even. if your blood levels are all over the map, as a result of not injecting twice/wk or more, you may be getting some big estrogen surges which can lead to bloat and fat gain, even at a rather modest or low dosage (in terms of mg/wk). if the estrogen is present, the bloating can be dramatic as per what type of diet you eat as well.

most men over 35 or 40 should probably be using an anti-aromatase with their HRT programs or even if they are still natural in order to decrease estrogen, increase natural T levels, and specifically increase free T levels. i hate to mention a specific age as this will vary from person to person with genetics and condition (the leaner the better). it is a fact that as a man ages he will start to convert more T to E. only blood work can provide firm answers. but remember if you are on hrt and not injecting frequently, your values will vary dramatically depending on if the testing is done the day after the shot, or three days, or five.
 
Interesting, Triple J, as I've been wondering if I should be injecting more frequently even before this recent bloat/fat issue. I'm 44, and I've been injecting only once every two weeks the entire time I've been on HRT. I havent noticed that I feel poorly or more tired or that my strength in the weight room is less on those last couple of days before I inject again, so I just assumed the long time between injections wasn't a problem. I'll mention this to my doctor next appointment (in a few weeks) and see what he thinks.
Do most men over 40 on HRT also use an anti-aromatase? I didnt think they did, but maybe its more common than I know.
I'll admit I ate a TON of junk food for several days in a row starting on New Years Eve and continuing through the Rose Bowl; much more than my normal once in a while cheat meal. But it did seem my midsection got bigger in just a short period of time.
 
bingo - don't fret over what your doctor says I am here to tell you, you need to inject at least twice a week. a once every two week injection protocol is going to have your blood levels all over the place and that is the issue to address first. then proceed to modifying diet and adding an anti-aromatase if still needed (verify through blood work)
 
trig1967 said:
I have been on HRT for almost 2 years now at a dose of 300 mg every 2 weeks of test cyp without any time off. I have regular checkups/blood work and everything is normal (bp, cholesterol, PSA, etc). I have gained about 30 lbs in the two years (althought I'm not as lean) for pretty good progress without raising any suspsicions.
However, it seems like I'm gradually getting more bloated, in my face and especially in my gut. I ate all kinds of junk food over New Year's weekend, but even after several days of eating clean, the bloat isnt going down much.
I had always thought that with the very low does of test used in HRT bloat would not be a problem, but now I'm wondering if I'm just going to slowly keep getting a more distended gut.
Any thoughts?
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Usually 'bloating' will not go away in mere days, it can take up to 2 weeks to fully get back to where you were before the sodium+carb pig-out. Drinking distilled water for 3-5 days, increasing Vitamin C intake and adding glycerin will help the process along

I suggest looking into adding light AI to your HRT - only with doctor's advise of course. Plus, clean up your diet, increase potassium, taurine and vitamins+minerals intake. Also, ask your doctor about adding HGH to your HRT.
 
trig1967 said:
I have been on HRT for almost 2 years now at a dose of 300 mg every 2 weeks of test cyp without any time off. I have regular checkups/blood work and everything is normal (bp, cholesterol, PSA, etc). I have gained about 30 lbs in the two years (althought I'm not as lean) for pretty good progress without raising any suspsicions.
However, it seems like I'm gradually getting more bloated, in my face and especially in my gut. I ate all kinds of junk food over New Year's weekend, but even after several days of eating clean, the bloat isnt going down much.
I had always thought that with the very low does of test used in HRT bloat would not be a problem, but now I'm wondering if I'm just going to slowly keep getting a more distended gut.
Any thoughts?
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maybe your doctor could help you out with some arimidex?
 
that's a lot of bloating, take some fiber in addition to my recommendations above
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that's a good idea; I gotta do as much as I can I feel like I'm about to pop! Have you ever seen bloating this bad?
 
Dude, I'm going through the same thing you are. I'm on EQ 500/wk and primo 300/wk. From x-mas till now, my gut has gotten huge! I can't open you pick, but my bloating is on top of my gut. I alaways feel full, and yesterday I went to get an upper GI thingy (with no anesthesia) cause I has to go back to work. He found nothing. I do cardio 6 times a week, eat pretty clean and I'm still bloated. I have taken 750 mg of test a week and I've never been this bloated. I've been thinking about arimidex. what do you bros think?
 
trig1967 said:
that's a good idea; I gotta do as much as I can I feel like I'm about to pop! Have you ever seen bloating this bad?
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I've never had it that bad naturally, but on anadrol it was really bad - very close to your problem (70%)
 
Hey, gyumpin, good to hear from someone who's in the same boat (bloat!). I don't know what happens over at community webshots but my pics keep dropping off. I reloaded them so you should be able to see them now.

http://community.webshots.com/user/trig1967

Is this what you look like?

I always feel full and heavy whether I have eaten a lot or not. I bought a fiber supplement today and I'm gonna start that tonight.
 
Great pic man! Don't worry about the bloat so much; you're pecs are looking good and the round gut just makes you look like a powerlifter. And I'll bet you're super strong now!
 
TbarTexas said:
Great pic man! Don't worry about the bloat so much; you're pecs are looking good and the round gut just makes you look like a powerlifter. And I'll bet you're super strong now!
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agreed. you still look strong. cool thing about being a guy is you can still have a gut like that and not look bad.
 
trig1967, saw the pic, I have the same bloat, but I get here and there. I always feel heavy and full as well, even though I might npt have any food. It's really high on my abdomen just like your. I'm looking into fiber as well as other cleansing products. My doc recommended zelnorm, you should also try consulting a gastro doc. I'm kinda pissed, becuase I used to have to the most ripped abs around :(
 
Hey, thanks guys, I was kinda freakin out about my gut intially, but I'm more ok with it now. I was just a little shocked at how big it's gotten. Hey, at least it's the middle of winter not summer :) And it has been great being stronger; the guy I usually work out with weighs a lot less than me but he's very strong for his size, so I normally only lift a little more than him. But I've blown him away in our last few workouts!
That's good advice about the gastro doc too. I hadn't thought about it but now that I do it does seem like I take a lot less big dumps than I was before. And especially since the top part of my belly is so distended he might be able to help.

and glennds - thanks for the note - I'm good now
 
Hey, thanks Tbar my gut's deflating a little bit, but it's still really distended. I've cut back on total cals, carbs and eating super clean. I've aslo added in some fiber. If it doesnt go down much more by Monday, I'm going to see a gastro doc.
 
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