hpta never recovering?

[airsmith2k]

is it possible after using heavily for year after year, that your hpta will never recover no matter how much pct u do? someone told me once if u juice hard for years that youll never have a natural testosterone production again and u will be infertile? any truth to this

 

[CremasterBlaster]

Everytime I read a post like this the first though thing that crosses my mind is Keith Richards.
I am sure that some people are more "naturally" prone to hard shut downs, just like some alcoholics and rec drug users are more prone to cirrhotic liver, kidney failure etc........then there's Keith Richards.......if he were a bodybuilder he would easily weigh 450 lbs at 3 % bf......he would eat the Munzer stack for breakfast, follow it up with an eightball or two and down it with a fifth of bourbon

 

[airsmith2k]

ok that didnt really answer my question tho i wanna know if its possible after several years of heavy gear usage if your natural test production will ever return to normal

 

[CremasterBlaster]

Ok...........just read a study that was done on Stallions (no.....not the lab)

Stallions were given exogenous (not in the body) test, deca, and winstrol

Changes in sperm number and quality were noted.......and changes in Leydig Cell function were also noted.....

Its the Sertoli and Leydig cells that are the culprits behind "shut down"......these are the cells that are affected by LH (from the pituitary) after receiving signals (GnRH) from the hypothalamus......

The only damn conclusion I could find was that...."changes are USUALLY reversible in time" (doesn't say if its irreversible)
Average time length was 3 months to a year (very vague)
No mention was made of compounds to restore natural test production (HCG, etc)

The only other thing mentionable is that steroids are contra-indicated (not recommended) if the stallion is to breed.......on juice notable decrease in scrotal width etc...etc....etc.....

Very GOOD question.......

 

[Stryker1992]

Ok...........just read a study that was done on Stallions (no.....not the lab)

Stallions were given exogenous (not in the body) test, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , and winstrol

Changes in sperm number and quality were noted.......and changes in Leydig Cell function were also noted.....

Its the Sertoli and Leydig cells that are the culprits behind "shut down"......these are the cells that are affected by lh - leutenizing hormone - (from the pituitary) after receiving signals (GnRH) from the hypothalamus......

The only damn conclusion I could find was that...."changes are USUALLY reversible in time" (doesn't say if its irreversible)
Average time length was 3 months to a year (very vague)
No mention was made of compounds to restore natural test production (HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , etc)

The only other thing mentionable is that steroids are contra-indicated (not recommended) if the stallion is to breed.......on juice notable decrease in scrotal width etc...etc....etc.....

Very GOOD question.......

How long were they given the juice?