Howdy-First Cycle

[Taodragon1964]

Hey guys and gals. Long time lurker, first time poster.

I'm 29 yrs old. 220lbs. 6ft tall and am planning my first cycle. Years ago I tried Andro Poppers by Pinnacle, and by years ago, I mean when I was 16, it was recommended by a personal trainer at the sports complex that I was working at. Believe it or not, the GNC rep recommended them too and sold them to me. I started taking them 2 a day and pyramided up to 10 a day as the trainer recommended. My bench went up as well as my other lifts. I had no idea at the time that prohormones could fuck you up but I guess I was lucky because I suffered no ill effects from them, other than a HUGE amount of body hair.

So onto my first actual cycle. I have some Test Prop from a very awesome Uncle of mine and was looking at pinning every day. I have a very high threshold for pain and I want my levels to be as stable as possible which is why I'm leaning towards ED. I'd like some opinions on the doseage, if you guys dont mind. I'm bouncing between 50 and 100 ED. I hear that either one is good but there has to be a difference between the 2 in regards to gains. I'm looking to build some good LBM while pulling off just a hair of fat. Im thinking of 6-10 weeks on cycle.

I read the do's and dont's of the board so I'm hoping that I didnt miss anything here with my first post if so, I'd be more than happy to add it in.

I'll be completely honest, I'm still piecing together my PCT. I am currently researching it as PCT tends to very slightly from person to person. Oh and I have some Adex to go with my prop.

Thanks

 

[nickb86]

i would personally run the prop 100-150 mg eod buddy ed is alot of pinning and youll end up with more scar tissue especially if you run it a longish time. if you do go each-day id stay with 75mg otherwise youll be doing quite alot for a 1st test cycle. You will prob build more muscle with a higher dosage but there will be more sides and greater suppression so may make recovery and side prevention harder, so may not add that much more in the longer scheme of things. Diet and training are what counts and your gains will come from your food. cycle length is up to you really but id run it min 8 weeks.

Run your cycle like this mate imo.

1-8 test prop
1-8 aromasin 12.5mg/eod (ai to control eastrogen on cycle)
1-8 hcgenerate (keep your balls ok)
Pct.
9-12 Unleashed/post cycle
9-12 clomid 25/25/25/25
9-14 Forma stanzol
9-14 Daa

 

[joeblow12345]

Id go with 75 mg eod on the prop. For pct run the layout above.

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[luv2hunt43]

Good luck with your cycle, keep us updated

 

[Taodragon1964]

Thanks guys! Once I get all of my PCT gear then I'll create a log.

Lovin the forum and the support!

 

[digit0x]

You'll find the pain is not necessarily the issue with pinning everyday. Its a hassle. That being said there's no reason not to, but personally I ping as little as possible.

 

[Taodragon1964]

Ok so my other question is this.

Let's say that I have enough TP to run 525 a week for 7 weeks, well the TP I currently have is from a certain place that is currently not in business, actively, so if I get some different TP and run it with my current stash, should I be concerned about the dosage? I guess what I'm asking is if brand x is weaker than brand y, how bad will that fuck me up on cycle? Or will it at all?

 

[rustilldown]

Ok so my other question is this.

Let's say that I have enough TP to run 525 a week for 7 weeks, well the TP I currently have is from a certain place that is currently not in business, actively, so if I get some different TP and run it with my current stash, should I be concerned about the dosage? I guess what I'm asking is if brand x is weaker than brand y, how bad will that fuck me up on cycle? Or will it at all?

Unless seriously Underdosed I wouldn't worry about it at all. As for what to run. Being 220 you could get away with 75ED but I would not go any higher especially for a first go.
Test prop will be a nice run for a first cycle if you don't mind the pinning. Pick many places to pin, and warm your oil under the tap prior to injecting ( personally I find this helps alot with the pain. And be prepared for some crippling shots, like where you go to take a shit and have to use your hands to brace yourself down to sit so you don't fall into the shitter.


Ride it like you stole it!!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Your running test prop. It's going to feel like it hits hard and fast as far as when you feel it and how much. its your first cycle too. Take it from a vet, ed and even eod gets old real quick. However..... First cycle.....so.....50mg ed or 100mg eod. It's as simple as that. It's definatley enough to accomplish a great first cycle.

Anti estrogen: arimidex is fine. Have it on hand. You should not need it while on cycle with this dose of test. UNLESS your gyno prone. Obviously if you get symptoms then you need to start using it.

 

[Power Cord]

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