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how would this fair for a short 2-3 weeker?

OMEGA

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oral dbol,
and oral winnie

10-15 mgs a day for each of them

since its so short of a cycle liver, and lipid prifile should be of no concern

also hpta wont shut down

whay do you think?

I have heard of a dbol and var pill cycle, but not winnie, and dbol


any ideas?
 
I have never tried the 2 week cycle but I like the sound of it, I'd do something like fina, prop, and winny, I don't know if you would keep alotta gain off a just oral cycle. Whats your post cycle plan, as far as clomid?
 
I was thinking of doing this

10-15 mgs of dbol in the AM

and then

10-15 mgs of winnie in the early afternoon
 
If you're set on only 2-3 weeks, my suggestion is:

Week 1-2: dbol 15-20mg/day
Week 1-3: winny 25mg/day
 
I'm going to try the same thing 20mg of dbol a day for 2 weeks and go off of it for 4. I sure hope this works cuz i dont want to gain 20lbs all at once and then play hell trying to keep it.
 
i really dont like the idea of the whole thing. but i dont see a problem with running both of them at the same time, esspecially at such a low dose. i just wouldnt expect much gains from this.
 
true I accept that, but its gotta do somthing.

especially if one is dieting, and traing hard, I mean 3-5 keepable pounds is alot.......I mean its worth it for the anticatabolic activity alone IMO
 
only one way to find out... JUST DO IT!

I have a post alos on my 2-3 weeks cycle I am starting on monday
 
Omega, I like the sound of your plans.

Spread out your orals throughout the day. But with a slight tilt toward the am. Thats just my preference because it is closer to circadian in nature and too much in the evening keeps me awake. That's just me.

I am a good responder as well. But I have some past experience from when I was younger so there may be some ancient muscle memory being activated. I am 43. My last AAS use was 1985. I weighed 250 that year.

I am on the second leg of my short cycle experience. In a little over two months I am up about 28lbs. I only gave myself 2 weeks off in between these short bursts. I am 6'1" and started at 199. Today I weighed 228. Yes I have been eating my ass off and have gotten a little fatter. But I am much more solid, strong, and feel great. It has been a great winter bulker.

First cycle started around Nov 17th:
Week 1,2 ....... 15mg dbol ed, and lots of prohormone stuff I had left over from previous experiments (making this a test/dbol cycle).
Week 3 .......... 5mg dbol ed in the am
Week 4-5 ....... 6oxo anti-estrogen

Finished at 216, gained about 17 pounds, kept gaining through most of the two weeks off, no crash symptoms

Second cycle started Dec 20th
Day 1 ............. 200mg Test Enanthate
Week 1-2 ....... 15mg dbol, about 25mg winnie ed (I drink it twice a day)
Week 3 .......... 10mg dbol, 10-15mg winnie am ed <-- NOW at 228
Week 4 .......... 5mg dbol am ed
Week 5-8 ....... Re-evaluate and follow post therapy as needed - nolva, arimidex, and clomid on hand.

The second cycle gets an extended bridge to allow the enanthate to clear out. I am not sure if I am going to use enanthate for short cycles in the future as its half-life is a little too long. I love how I feel from it, so I will need to evaluate how I recover from this second leg, before making my future plans.

My thoughts right now are to start cleaning up my diet a little. I am about as heavy as I want to be, just need to solidify and consolidate the quality of my gains.

There will be a short cycle of test/winnie by Spring. I want to run winnie by itself without the dbol. I have heard they may interfere with each other. My gains have continued but I am not feeling the mind blowing signature dbol pumps, and a certain factor seems lacking from the combo. But my strength is still up, up, up. So I want to isolate the winnie with test later on.

It is possible I may jump into a longer cycle at some point to get really cut. I'll just have to see how everything goes. The other factor I am considering, at 43, is going on some minimal level of test as HRT. The enanthate has me feeling like a teenager, I like the zone I am in from it, I have had only one shot mind you.

Can you tell I am pleased with short cycles? My approach is not purely by the book but yes, in my opinion thus far, you can make very good gains on the short 2-3 week cycles, comparable to longer cycles, with less drugs and less risks.
 
how willbe your spring cycle? Test and winni

I posted mine on another board... I just wated to see how you do it.
 
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