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I need something to get estrogen under control from doing long cycles and never runing anything.How well does the AIMF stack against the other stuff thats not over the counter?
How well does AIMF do against Aromasin for estrogen problems?
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gymratforlife
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Ok so this is what I think I will do to get my levels back to normal:Run 10000 ius of hcg at 500ius every 3rd day,run proviron 50 mg per day,aromasin,300mg test e per week,.Does that look alright to you Ulter or does it need any adjustment?
gymratforlife
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Yeah but the problem is not from the 300mg nw the problem is my nuts are the size of peas from being on for too long and never fully recovering like I should have.Ulter said:
njmuscleguy
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gymratforlife said:
I'm confused.... it sounds like you may be running a cycle (test) but you are also trying to do PCT.... which one is it?
gymratforlife
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Im not doing PCT I am just trying to get my system back to normal I ran a really long cycle and did a PCT and never really fully recovered and got back on so now I am having estrogen issues and or Progesterone issues also from the deca I ran so I am try to get my system back to normal before runing another thorough PCT.njmuscleguy said:
gymratforlife
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Here is a link to what is actually happening I just need a cut and dry list because I am going to start getting my ancilliaries and stuff today and I want to do the best I can to recover fully.http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500164 here is the link to other post
OK well thanks for letting me in on your situation. It's easier to anwer you with all the facts in hand.
Use HCG as you have it. I would recommend you use clomid as well as proviron. 300mg of test is too much for you to get your HPTA going again. You should consider just using the morning dbol method if you're very suppressed. 10mg upon rising. Use Aromasin or AIFM
Use HCG as you have it. I would recommend you use clomid as well as proviron. 300mg of test is too much for you to get your HPTA going again. You should consider just using the morning dbol method if you're very suppressed. 10mg upon rising. Use Aromasin or AIFM
gymratforlife
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clomid at 50mg per day?Also should I use bromo for the progesterone and Prolactin that may be in my system from the Deca?Or should the Deca be out by now?Its been like 2 months since Ive touched it now.Ulter said:
You can probably do fine on 25mg/day of clomid. You're scrabbling for too many drugs. Stop panicing. Just use what I told you. The blood levels of Deca are too small at this point to worry about. Deca is the progestin that causes problems. It doesn't "make" progesterone that lingers.
njmuscleguy
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gymratforlife said:
that's what I figured... I just don't know if running test is the way to go in order to get your system back to "normal"... I'm no expert in this area, so I couldn't say with certainty... my instinct would be to run another agressive PCT (HCG, Aromasin/AIFM, Clomid, Proviron)
Also, have you used bromo before? Be aware that many users reported a whole mess of side effects with that, so be careful!
gymratforlife
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Ok so clomid Proviron Aimf and HCG and Im on my way to make an order to AF thanx for the help Ulter and NJ.
njmuscleguy
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gymratforlife said:
recovery is frustrating as hell (believe me, I know)...good luck bro!
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gymratforlife said:
Just as good as the strongest drugs out there. I would almost venture to say that it is better all around than letro at high doses.
4pumps per day is considered on the high end. At this dose you will be drier than 20 year old shit. The best part is that it doesn't seem to restrict gains like all other AI's and serms do.
AF store is dead nuts with the AIFM!
i'd lay off the proviron with this PCT - it is suppressive and will do nothing to get you back on track.
you need to get clean bro - clomid, HCG (i recommend 500IU ED for 5 days, then nothing), a mild AI like 6OXO or formestane (not AIFM - too strong, IMO) and maybe a tribulus product, if for no other reason than to make you think you're back by giving you wood. maybe some IGF, too - has been shown to aid HPTA recovery in some ppl.
you need to get clean bro - clomid, HCG (i recommend 500IU ED for 5 days, then nothing), a mild AI like 6OXO or formestane (not AIFM - too strong, IMO) and maybe a tribulus product, if for no other reason than to make you think you're back by giving you wood. maybe some IGF, too - has been shown to aid HPTA recovery in some ppl.
njmuscleguy
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thebrakes said:
Actually, more and more the general consensus is that Proviron will not negatively affect the HPTA nor further suppress FSH and LH levels. In his case, proviron would be good during PCT only if libido issues are severe... Proviron also greatly reduces SHBG, which allows more free test available for the body to use
agree with clomid, HCG (though I'd run it at least 10 days)... 6OXO is reported to have some nasty rebound effects... tribulus is a crapshoot too... even pure Bulgarian tribulus is ineffective for many... IGF is a good idea for PCT as well
gymratforlife
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Ok so I got the HCG dbol and going to order the aimf today along with the provirons.That should do me good I hope.
gymratforlife
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Thats what Ulter said.Only 25 mg of clomid too,Im willing to give it a shot see whats the outcome.mikefear said:
njmuscleguy
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This is what I've read about the dbol bridging method...
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In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won´t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you´d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT.
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Just curious why I don't hear of more people using low doses of Dbol to bridge?
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In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you won´t lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you´d use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT.
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Just curious why I don't hear of more people using low doses of Dbol to bridge?
gymratforlife
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Nice exactly what I was leaning towards,fucking perfect.
njmuscleguy
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gymratforlife said:
Well, that info didn't come from a medical or scientific journal, so who knows if Dbol truly doesn't affect HPTA and recover?
If you try it, be sure to tell us how it works for ya. I've seen some guys run 10mg dbol ED between their last cycle day and PCT and others running it during PCT only and still others for both.
gymratforlife
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Im going to start runing it now.I took last shot of test 3 days ago.
