How to workout at 2x the strength/endurance

[I2ancid]

((((This is not a post intended to direct athletes into useing any drug they wouldent normally use. it's just what I have discovered.))))


Dissociative Anaesthetics are a class of illegal and non illegal drugs. in this post I will be addressing the use of DXM to mask the pain of workouts (super endurance) with the gain of strength sometimes 2x that of before.

Maybe you have heard of people taking the illicit drug 'PCP' it is a drug that causes people to have an incredibly strong will to be destructive and have the strength of 10 men. it is in the dissociative anaesthetic class. DXM is a close relative that rarely causes psychotic episodes but has the benefit of it; it is also legal. dissociative anaesthetics are given to people who are about to under go surgery to kill all pain. It was also used in ww2 for people who were injured.

How does this benefit an athlete? Well since it masks all pain you can easily workout longer/harder. Cardio workouts are also 10x easier because you never get tired or 'feel the burn' plus for some reason it gives you a huge strength gain. DXM (dextromethorphan) can be bought from a few large and small chemical supply houses. I recommend this to only athletes who are extremely serious about maximizing their gaines, it has helped me immensly. Also this drug is almost never used by people for body building because noone knows about it but a few select people like me. take care

 

[SithE19]

Is it expensive, what would a recommended dose be? What are the side-effects? I.E stunted growth, anger loss of hair, something like that or what? Also you could take punches and shit and not even flinch hah.

 

[TraxZBT]

DXM is also what killed many raver kids back in the day when it was the main ingredient in ecstacy pills.

User Beware.

 

[osujudoman]

Very interesting.... could you address the subjects that Sithe19 mentioned? Price, sides, how it's taken (inj or oral), studies on long term effects, etc. I'm very interested in how this may benefit training.

- Judoman

 

[40butpumpin]

Benefits? I don't see how anyone could benefit from something like this. Sounds like you're just increasing your chances for muscle, ligament or tendon tears, and that's just if you could control it which I doubt highly. Just playing with fire if you ask me. $0.02

 

[beefybull]

Very interesting.... could you address the subjects that Sithe19 mentioned? Price, sides, how it's taken (inj or oral), studies on long term effects, etc. I'm very interested in how this may benefit training.

Benefit training... possibly, but not likely. Still, a good idea in theory, Rancid. I might be a believer if you can convince me.

EROWID.ORG DXM VAULT

Price - $3.50-5 for a bottle of Vicks 44 Cough containing only DXM as its active ingredient, More for Robitussin... You'll only find it in cough medicenes unless you can get the pure shit from a chemical company

Dextromethorphan (DXM) Chemical Formula: C18H25NO

From 'DXM Effects' by Erowid:
POSITIVE
mood lift
dissociation of mind from body
creative dreamlike experiences

NEUTRAL
pupil dilation
visual and aural hallucinations
decreased sexual functioning (difficulty achieving orgasm)
confusion, disorientation

NEGATIVE
upset stomach, vomiting
dizzyness
body itching
rash, red blotchy skin
diarrhea
fever
tachycardia (racing, pounding heart)
Contraindications:


Avoid using DXM in combination with alcohol.
READ THE LABEL - avoid using cold remedies which contain tylenol or other medications in combination with DXM. Make sure the product contains only DXM as the active ingredient.

 

[beefybull]

DXM comes in many different forms. The most common are various over-the-counter cough suppressants (including Robitussin, Delsym, Pertussin, Drixoral, Vicks formula 44, Coricidin and several generic brands). Each brand contains different quantities of dextromethorphan, generally in the 20-30 mg per capsule range, as well as a variety of other potentially dangerous drugs. Calculate dosages carefully and check to ensure that the product does not contain other dangerous active ingredients. The chart below shows approximate recreational dosages for pure dextromethorpahn, measured in milligrams (mg), for a 175-200lb person.

Threshhold 80-90 mg
Light 100 - 200 mg
Common 200 - 400 mg
Strong 300 - 600 mg
Heavy 600 - 1500 mg
Risk of Death 2500 - 20000 mg 1

Duration : 4-8 hours

Some users report that DXM dosages are affected significantly by bodyweight and lighter users should start with lower dosages. Users should always start lower and work up because everyone reacts differently and some people are very sensitive to the effects and may be overwhelmed by dosages that are minimal to others.

POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS CHEMICALS FOUND WITH DXM IN COUGH MEDICINES

 

[beefybull]

INGREDIENTS SOMETIMES FOUND IN COUGH MEDICINES YOU WANT TO AVOID:

Acetaminophen
High doses of Acetaminophen can cause serious liver damage and possibly death. Symptoms of overdose may include bloody, black, or tarry stool; bloody or cloudy urine; pain in lower back and/or side; sores, ulcers, or white spots on lips or in mouth; sore throat; or unusual bleeding or bruising.
We have seen recommendations that no more than 4000 mg of acetaminophen be taken in a day (and no more than 2600mg/day for long-term use).
ReadersDigestHealth.com


Aspirin
Symptoms of overdose may include rapid breathing, difficulty swallowing, ringing in the ears or loss of hearing, bloody urine, diarrhea, nausea, dizziness, fever, swelling of eyelids, face or lips, and convulsions.
Toxic Aspirin overdoses can be seen beginning at 150-300 mg/kg (10,000 mg for a person weighing 160 lb).
HealthCentral.com


Chlorpheniramine Maleate
High doses of Chlorpheniramine Maleate (CPM) can cause severe and life-threatening symptoms including seizures; shortness of breath or troubled breathing; weakness; loss of consciousness; severe dryness of mouth, nose, or throat; bleeding from skin, mouth, eyes, rectum, and vagina; and possibly death.
We have seen recommendations that no more than 24 mg of CPM be taken in a day.
HealthandAge.com,ReadersDigestHealth.com
See Experiences with CPM Containing DXM Products


Guaifenesin
High doses of Guaifenesin can cause severe nausea and vomiting.
HealthandAge.com


Pseudoephedrine (Hydrochloride)
High doses of pseudoephedrine can cause irregular heartbeat, headaches, difficulty breathing, anxiety, and seizures. Though some people use pseudoephedrine recreationally, there is too much pseudoephedrine in these products to use them as a source for DXM.
HealthandAge.com, ReadersDigestHealth.com

 

[SithE19]

DXM

Supplmenting with cough syurp, interesting, are those dosages an ed dose? How long should one cycle DXM? At low doses would it be safe enough to take, and would you see results? Would the strength and endurance gains be long lasting or only short time?

 

[I2ancid]

Yes it comes in cough syrup which I really dont recommend taking as a source for dxm, because of deadly OTHER active ingrediants by the way ravers died from taking it because they were stupid and chugged cough syrup which contained pseudo ephedrine and chlorean maleate. DO YOUR RESEARCH www.erowid.org is a good site for information on it. You can get the pure powder stuff legally from a few chem supply houses (just do a quick search you'll find one)

a good dose of dxm for the purposes I mentioned above would be around 400mg (always weigh it out with a scale dont eye it), never go higher unless you want to really want a good look at life (oob - out of body experience) its some incredibly strong shit and it wont be legal in 10 years I can almost guarentee you that. At 300-400mg motor skills wont be affected. maybe just the slightest bit. You dont know how helpful it is in workouts till you try it yourself, just take my word for it, when on dxm you will train much harder and much longer BUT REMEMBER. Youre not invinceable dont push yourself TOO far.

 

[TraxZBT]

there is a way of extracting it from cough syrup and what not... I forgot the chemistry behind it but it looked fairly easy if you had access to a lab.
i wouldn't be surprised if theres a kit out to convert the stuff already.

 

[beefybull]

DO NOT Take DXM with Yohimbine

ANOTHER HUGE, HUGE WARNING!!!!!

DO NOT Take DXM with anything containing Yohimbine (Yohimburn, NYC, etc.) Unless Brain Damage (specifically Olney's Lesions) sounds good to you

"This is Your Brain on Dissociatives" By William White

 

[I2ancid]

I discovered it when I was useing it recreationally and decided 'hey it would be cool if I could ride my bike while high on this' so I did and I was going at full speed much faster then previously able and for a lonnnnng ways I was hauling ass like a rocket ship. Then I tried pullups and I was able to do almost twice as much. he strength and endurance usually begins about 2 hours into the trip (it absorbes slow) and lasts up to 12 hours. By the way, for those interested I wouldent recommend working out with it on your first try as it can be a little weird and others will probably be able to tell your 'on something' but after about 5 times you will learn to act completely normal. There is very very little tolerance to the drug also. if anyone has anymore questions you can aim me at 'i2ancid1'.

There isent really an example of a cycle I can give you, just to take it 2 hours before you workout and to drink ALOT of water. For those interested in the higher doses i'll let you know what it is before you try doing it yourself and freak out about how strong it is. A high dose will completely disconnect your mind from your body and you will be typically 'insane' and HIGHLY euphoric, when it was used as an ingrediant in Ecstacy that was where most of the euphoria came from. it is a very pure euphoria and can be extremely addicting so be careful. once again http://www.erowid.org is a great site for more info

 

[Counterstrike]

sems like vicks 44 is best choice. right or wrong? I like to improve my endurance b/c it sucks i haven't jogged in 2 months since i had shin splints butstarting back tommorrow should itry alow dose for a week of icks 44 total of 75mg per day or no? i like ot jump to doing4-5 miles instead of two seems to be the barrier for me

 

[I2ancid]

vicks 44 is ok, i've tried it a few times. Personally the formulation is too thick therfore harder to down about 1 1/2 4oz bottles.

A better brand would be the rite aid brand cough suppressant, or CVS. Those are both much thinner and easier to down. but remember I dont recommend taking the cough syrup as you can get 30 grams powder for $50. and if someone overheard you talking about 'getting high on cough syrup' they might go down to the pharmacy and chose the wrong type of cough syrup and end up very messed up. if not dead.

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

i found a place to order the pur stuff:

$65 for 30grams
$125 for 50 grams
$197 for 100 grams

 

[I2ancid]

sems like vicks 44 is best choice. right or wrong? I like to improve my endurance b/c it sucks i haven't jogged in 2 months since i had shin splints butstarting back tommorrow should itry alow dose for a week of icks 44 total of 75mg per day or no? i like ot jump to doing4-5 miles instead of two seems to be the barrier for me

Dont take it on a daily schedule, it is hard on the brain. It should be taken at the most once or twice a week. 75mg will definatly not help you much at all. thats a very low dose and you will definatly still feel pain. 400mg is where you stop feeling pain. I've went outside in 20 degree weather and felt no cold AT ALL while on it.

 

[wartime100]

Fuck that shit! They only painkiller I need I will power! You must break the pain barrier. I like pain. It makes you tougher!