How to use clomid and HCG for PCT?

[AvatarJ]

Whats the best way to use Clomid and HCG for PCT (14days after last injection) after a 10 week cycle of 300mg test?

Is it better to use the HCG first then after that use clomid. or use both at the same time? or start with HCG 7 days after last test injection of test and start clomid 14day after last test inj?

Any advice please.

Thanks!!

 

[stevesmi]

run hcg during.. then you run your SERM day 1 after the ester clears. read my sig for details. you also want to run natty supps like unleashed/post cycle.. thats what they were designed for.

 

[glimmerman70]

run hcg during.. then you run your SERM day 1 after the ester clears. read my sig for details. you also want to run natty supps like unleashed/post cycle.. thats what they were designed for.

Just asking because I am a noob but with only running 300mg of test for 10 weeks do you really need PCT..or wont your body reset from a light cycle like that..of course I am doing TRT because I need the test anyways..

 

[GrownUp]

Don't need PCT if ur on TRT, only HcG!

 

[glimmerman70]

Don't need PCT if ur on TRT, only HcG!

Thanks GrownUp..

 

[stevesmi]

if you are on TRT you are on TRT... that isn't cycling.

when you cycle on for 10 weeks.. you need to pct and cycle off.

 

[mryar]

I would use 500iu of HCG twice a week in the two weeks leading up to the clomid. But don't pin the hcg the final time (hcg half life is 4-5 days). Then when you take the clomid you're jumpstarting the HTPAxis without any substances messing it up (like residual HCG or testosterone ester). Also, according to the pct calculator I'm using, it takes ~18 days for the 300mg/wk of testosterone to come down to 125mg levels. You don't want to jumpstart the axis with > 125mg of test still in your system. Personally, I'd wait another couple days after that just to be sure. Day 71: 698.6mg T Last Injection Day Day 72: 633mg Day 73: 573.2mg Day 74: 519mg Day 75: 470.4mg Day 76: 425.7mg Day 77: 385.9mg Day 78: 349.4mg Day 79: 316.4mg Day 80: 286.9mg Day 81: 259.5mg Day 82: 235.3mg Day 83: 213mg Day 84: 192.9mg Day 85: 174.9mg Day 86: 158.1mg Day 87: 143.4mg Day 88: 129.8mg Day 89: 117.5mg Start PCT I had it all formatted nice, but the board software made it all one paragraph

 

[AvatarJ]

I would use 500iu of HCG twice a week in the two weeks leading up to the clomid. But don't pin the hcg the final time (hcg half life is 4-5 days). Then when you take the clomid you're jumpstarting the HTPAxis without any substances messing it up (like residual HCG or testosterone ester). Also, according to the pct calculator I'm using, it takes ~18 days for the 300mg/wk of testosterone to come down to 125mg levels. You don't want to jumpstart the axis with > 125mg of test still in your system. Personally, I'd wait another couple days after that just to be sure. Day 71: 698.6mg T Last Injection Day Day 72: 633mg Day 73: 573.2mg Day 74: 519mg Day 75: 470.4mg Day 76: 425.7mg Day 77: 385.9mg Day 78: 349.4mg Day 79: 316.4mg Day 80: 286.9mg Day 81: 259.5mg Day 82: 235.3mg Day 83: 213mg Day 84: 192.9mg Day 85: 174.9mg Day 86: 158.1mg Day 87: 143.4mg Day 88: 129.8mg Day 89: 117.5mg Start PCT I had it all formatted nice, but the board software made it all one paragraph

Isnt it a waste if you use HCG while the test is still high in your system... Should you not wait until the test is "out" your sytem before starting PCT (hcg)? just a question? Confused :/

 

[AvatarJ]

And another question... Lets say I am using the HCG 7 days after the last shot of Test e (300mg). Is it still fine to use proviron while using HCG right up until the day before I start clomid (which will be 16days after the last shot of test)

Your thoughts please?

 

[stevesmi]

ask Nelson.. he is on TRT. most guys on here cycle.

according to what nelson writes you still should come off TRT for a couple weeks throughout the year to give the body a rest, and he also says you should take hcg as well.

how old are you?