How to run this PCT

[Mac173]

I'm thinking of adding a small dose of tren at the end of my cycle but know that nolva. and nandrolones are a no no. The problem is that I can't handle clomid either. What should be used for this type of pct? I can't see that HCG and an AI would be suffecient? So for those guys that can't handle clomid and cycle nandrolones, what do you do?

 

[Mac173]

bump

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Why can't you handle Clomid ?

M18

 

[DBBT]

I'm thinking of adding a small dose of tren at the end of my cycle but know that nolva. and nandrolones are a no no. The problem is that I can't handle clomid either. What should be used for this type of pct? I can't see that HCG and an AI would be suffecient? So for those guys that can't handle clomid and cycle nandrolones, what do you do?

proviron

 

[shivastool]

Nolva and nandrolones are a no-no when taken TOGETHER...not if running at a different time...like PCT. Still think Clomid, HCG and an AI are especially suited for nandrolone PCT. Try Toremifine in place of clomid if need be...works great and I think a certain board sponor now sells it. Run it 120/90/60/60 for four weeks. Again, HCG is very helpful too.

 

[Mac173]

Why can't you handle Clomid ?

M18

I get so depressed to the point of suicide. Temper is just rediculious. I'm pretty sure it was the clomid because I was fine all cycle and beginning of pct. This happened last pct after about two weeks on the clomid. I didn't frontload either, it was a constant 50mg ed. I have been contemplating giving it another go just to be sure. But I want to know what my options are just in case I would have to drop it again.

 

[tin2]

try taking 50mg/day at night .. i feel like a bitch on clomid but i tryed that and i seemed to be able to handle the sides pretty well

 

[Mac173]

try taking 50mg/day at night .. i feel like a bitch on clomid but i tryed that and i seemed to be able to handle the sides pretty well

I'll consider that, but doesn't clomid have a fairly long half-life. A couple days or so. Not sure the exact #.

 

[tin2]

I'll consider that, but doesn't clomid have a fairly long half-life. A couple days or so. Not sure the exact #.

i think it's 5-7 days.. I used to be a hater ofclomid and switched to nolva till i found nolva to kill my libido.. Most ppl get sides from clomid because they are using 300,150,100 dosage.. its shown that 50mg a day is just as good.. Try it and if u start feeling all depressed then stop taking it.. I've noticed the sides go away in a day or 2 after stopping .. good luck

 

[blut wump]

Nolva and nandrolones are a no-no when taken TOGETHER...not if running at a different time...like PCT.

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Unless one has taken the effort to run the nandrolone part of one's cycle through a half-life calculator and is confident about the reasonable accuracy of the half-life values worked with then it'd be careless to assume that the nandrolone had cleared just because PCT is under way.

Deca is, of course, the one to be most careful of. If you run deca and test each for the same amount of time and then start your PCT based on the usual 2-3 weeks clearance time of the Test then you're starting PCT while the Deca is still in full swing, dependent on dosage, of course. Tren and NPP are less of a concern.

 

[Mac173]

So, if I used tren a for last 6wks of cycle and waited a week before I started my HCG and nolvadex it wouldn't cause a problem. I know tren a has a very short half life and most of it would be cleared by 7 days out. I'm also on
test e and eq.

 

[shivastool]

Unless one has taken the effort to run the nandrolone part of one's cycle through a half-life calculator and is confident about the reasonable accuracy of the half-life values worked with then it'd be careless to assume... Tren and NPP are less of a concern.

Excellent points bw. Alot of people don't consider the long half-lives...and ANY PCT will be compromised as a result. I am becoming a big fan of Tor and Rolax for (3rd generation) SERMS as they don't seem to have the issues of Clomid and Nolva, and are in wide circulation now.

 

[ALIN]

I'm thinking of adding a small dose of tren at the end of my cycle but know that nolva. and nandrolones are a no no. The problem is that I can't handle clomid either. What should be used for this type of pct? I can't see that HCG and an AI would be suffecient? So for those guys that can't handle clomid and cycle nandrolones, what do you do?

Try Nolvadex and Tribulus if you cant use clomid.

 

[Mac173]

Excellent points bw. Alot of people don't consider the long half-lives...and ANY PCT will be compromised as a result. I am becoming a big fan of Tor and Rolax for (3rd generation) SERMS as they don't seem to have the issues of Clomid and Nolva, and are in wide circulation now.

What do you mean by Tor and Rolax?