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How to do THIS with your GHB...

Stew Meat

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Some guy emailed me out of the blue and said he was manufactoring GHB and wanted to send me a free sample... (any of your other mods get this?)
Well, anyway, I said sure, why not... and gave the guy my address.
I got the stuff a couple days later and tried it last night... I couldn't believe this shit... There was almost NO taste.
Now everytime I've ever made GHB, it had a god-awful salty soap taste to it and was so bad it could barely be tolerated. But this stuff tasted like freaking water... with only a slight salty taste. I asked the guy how he did it like that and he says its his special recepie.

I asked him if he used charcoal to do it and he said that he purified it with charcoal but that wasn't what gave it the taste... Anybody got any idea how to do this? I couldn't get anything out of this guy!




-Stew
 
that was tha true shit

I used to get G from a guy back home who made it when it was still legal in my state and that is always how it tasted bro. Just kind of like a mild saline solution, basically like water with a little bit of salt, all though it was a little thicker than water. this guy definitely knows what he is doing. That is the way G is supposed to be bro, you are one lucky mofo. I haven't had it that good since 98. Enjoy :D
 
It was mixed up 2g per ounce which IMO is fairly concentrated... Its about as much as a really small shot glass. I took 4g and it knocked my dick in the dirt! :D



-Stew
 
I've heard that reducing with KOH, rather than NaOH, produces a more mild tasting liquid. I've never tried it, though.
 
I was always under the impression that KOH tasted worse than NaOH... but that it was better for you.



-Stew
 
GHB

Hey bro be careful with the GHB. I agree its great and you sleep like a baby, but you might have side effects in the future. I have a buddy in chi town whos a chemist. He was hooking me up with the cleanest most potent GHB I have ever had. Hell I used to take it like 5 days a week and I felt really good and rested. You only needed to take a cap full to be completing ripped too. Me and my fiancee used to take it also and have great sex. After taking it alot for about 9 month I quite taking it to see if it would fuck up my sleeping not having it. Well it did fuck up my sleeping cause I had convulsions like 5 different times. I would wake up in the middle of the night shaking and it was like I was paralized I could not move a muscle. I was hoping I was having a bad dream but I know that wasn't the case after the 3rd time. Well I never took GHB again and I have not taken it for 3 years and have never had another seizer. BRO BE CAREFULL I was once young and dump tooooooooo. It sounds alot like the shit I was getting. Mine looked like water and almost tasted like water and like you said the stuff I was getting floored me.
 
That is the first time I have heard something like that and I know people who have taken GHB for years... You probably just had a rare dependancy. Seizures are mostly caused by lack of dopimine as I recall... Since GHB binds to the dopamine receptor, your body may have slowed its production of dopamine. All of that could have been prevented if you had not quit cold turkey and simply reduced your consumption over a period of one week. GHB is relatively safe. If you've been taking ANYTHING for any period of time, it is always best to slow consumption to let bodychemistry normalize.




-Stew
 
Well stew in that case I woud take GHB again. Like I said I never felt so relaxed and rested as I was on GHB. What color was the GHB the guy sent you? I would do it again because I have been trying to work out hard and have not been able to get the sleep I need for good gains. Also my fiancee only did it that one time but damn what a good time we had. Is the guy going to send you more or did he give you info on hopw to get it?
 
From http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_faq2.shtml

Lab procedure for the synthesis of GHB:
Please follow common Lab Safety procedures. Wear a lab coat and protective glasses. You will work with hot caustic solutions and solvents! Be aware of the risks associated with the manufacture of GHB! Never work alone!
Place 30 grams of pure NaOH (do not use lye!) and 100 ml of 40% ethanol in a 250 ml two-necked round-bottomed flask and swirl it and dissolve as much of the NaOH as will be dissolved in the ethanol (Caution! The dissolution of NaOH is very exothermic!). All of the NaOH won't dissolve. Add some boiling stones. Place the flask in a heating mantle (do not turn it on yet!) and fit a condenser at the top neck of the flask, I use a 20 cm Graham condenser, but any water-cooled condenser will probably suffice. Connect the cooling water supply to the condenser and start the water flow. Fit a 100 ml addition funnel in the other neck of the RB flask and pour 65 ml of gamma-butyrolactone into it. Turn on the heating mantle, and bring the NaOH/EtOH mixture to a gentle boil. When all NaOH has dissolved, begin adding the gamma-butyrolactone from the addition funnel, a little at the time, if you add too much at once, the solution will start to boil heavily and choke in the condenser.

Ideally, you should monitor the reaction with TLC, but a simple pH check with universal pH paper will suffice. When the pH comes down to 7, stop the heating. This normally occurs within an hour, probably after just half an hour. If the pH isn't down to 7 after an hour of refluxing, adjust the pH to neutral with dilute HCl or conc. citric acid. Watch out, as the addition of acid is exothermic and makes the solution boil again. You can also add some more of the lactone, and let the solution boil for another minute.

Now reduce the volume of the solution through boiling it in the flask without the condenser attached to approx. 75-100 ml. You can recover the solvent with a distillation setup here, and recondense the ethanol, water and excess butyrolactone if you wish. When the solution is down to 75 ml, the temperature of the solution is usually around 135øC. Dilute the stirred solution while still hot to 150ml with distilled water to prevent it to solidify when it returns to room temperature again. With this dilution, the dosage is around 5 ml, as it is approx. a 50% GHB solution.

The solution is perfectly clear and tastes slightly salty. It may be very slightly yellow colored, but not much if pure enough butyrolactone was used. If any neutralizing acid was used in the process, crystals of Na-citrate or NaCl may deposit in the solution, as well as the taste is severly impaired. Better dissolve some in a glass of OJ before experiencing.

An HPLC analysis on a batch made as above gave the following result:

Weight %
Na-GHB 54.4
Water 39.5
Ethanol 5.6
Lactone 0.3
Other 0.2

Some simple chemistry but with expensive equipment.

Also, regarding KOH:



Different salts:
Substituting NaOH for KOH (molarly, that is, use 42 grams of KOH in the above synth instead of NaOH) gives a similar product, and also gives users of this chemical that Potassium supplement that is by some said to be needed in connection with administration of GHB. It is not clear (for me at least) if it is the sodium intake or the GHB intake that gives the drop in plasma potassium levels. Better use a mixture of the two. Bear in mind that K-GHB is slightly less active (by weight) than Na-GHB as the K ion is heavier than the Na counterpart. Differences between K-GHB and Na-GHB is that the K salt is more soluble in water than the Na salt, and the taste is more like salt/licorice instead of the salt/soap taste of Na-GHB. In the book "Better Sex Through Chemistry" by John Morgenthaler it is pointed out that "[GHB] has a salty/licorice flavor" and it is obvious that the author tried the K salt. The purer the lactone used in the synthesis, the better the taste of the final product. LiOH or Mg(OH)2 could be dangerous to use, as would NH3 (formation of pyrrolidon). Ca(OH)2 *could* work, but I cannot find any point in using it.
 
Stew

I was a regular consumer of G, and always purchased from the same source.

On one occasion the G was twice as potent and I ended up overdosing, taking an ambulance to the ER and being resuscitated in the hospital.

This was a year ago last May and I have not touched it since.

Please use with caution.
:(
 
BeMassive said:
How do I go about getting my sample? I would love to try some. It sounds like it gives you almost an extacy feeling...


Sorry... samples for mods only ;)


LOL @ 1Mistake! I know it... what in tarnation am I doing having illegal things sent in the mail.



-Stew
 
Stew Meat said:
It was mixed up 2g per ounce which IMO is fairly concentrated... Its about as much as a really small shot glass. I took 4g and it knocked my dick in the dirt! :D



-Stew


The following statement is purely ficticious...

That's it? That's why it barely tasted like anything. I concentrate my G to around 1g per ml.
 
Stew Meat said:



Sorry... samples for mods only ;)


LOL @ 1Mistake! I know it... what in tarnation am I doing having illegal things sent in the mail.



-Stew

Stew, I'll be trying the GHB in question shortly.

My sample is 2.0L btw.......hehe j/k

Godspeed
 
Big Johnson said:
From http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_faq2.shtml

Lab procedure for the synthesis of GHB:
Please follow common Lab Safety procedures. Wear a lab coat and protective glasses. You will work with hot caustic solutions and solvents! Be aware of the risks associated with the manufacture of GHB! Never work alone!
Place 30 grams of pure NaOH (do not use lye!) and 100 ml of 40% ethanol in a 250 ml two-necked round-bottomed flask and swirl it and dissolve as much of the NaOH as will be dissolved in the ethanol (Caution! The dissolution of NaOH is very exothermic!). All of the NaOH won't dissolve. Add some boiling stones. Place the flask in a heating mantle (do not turn it on yet!) and fit a condenser at the top neck of the flask, I use a 20 cm Graham condenser, but any water-cooled condenser will probably suffice. Connect the cooling water supply to the condenser and start the water flow. Fit a 100 ml addition funnel in the other neck of the RB flask and pour 65 ml of gamma-butyrolactone into it. Turn on the heating mantle, and bring the NaOH/EtOH mixture to a gentle boil. When all NaOH has dissolved, begin adding the gamma-butyrolactone from the addition funnel, a little at the time, if you add too much at once, the solution will start to boil heavily and choke in the condenser.

Ideally, you should monitor the reaction with TLC, but a simple pH check with universal pH paper will suffice. When the pH comes down to 7, stop the heating. This normally occurs within an hour, probably after just half an hour. If the pH isn't down to 7 after an hour of refluxing, adjust the pH to neutral with dilute HCl or conc. citric acid. Watch out, as the addition of acid is exothermic and makes the solution boil again. You can also add some more of the lactone, and let the solution boil for another minute.

Now reduce the volume of the solution through boiling it in the flask without the condenser attached to approx. 75-100 ml. You can recover the solvent with a distillation setup here, and recondense the ethanol, water and excess butyrolactone if you wish. When the solution is down to 75 ml, the temperature of the solution is usually around 135øC. Dilute the stirred solution while still hot to 150ml with distilled water to prevent it to solidify when it returns to room temperature again. With this dilution, the dosage is around 5 ml, as it is approx. a 50% GHB solution.

The solution is perfectly clear and tastes slightly salty. It may be very slightly yellow colored, but not much if pure enough butyrolactone was used. If any neutralizing acid was used in the process, crystals of Na-citrate or NaCl may deposit in the solution, as well as the taste is severly impaired. Better dissolve some in a glass of OJ before experiencing.

An HPLC analysis on a batch made as above gave the following result:

Weight %
Na-GHB 54.4
Water 39.5
Ethanol 5.6
Lactone 0.3
Other 0.2

Some simple chemistry but with expensive equipment.

Also, regarding KOH:



Different salts:
Substituting NaOH for KOH (molarly, that is, use 42 grams of KOH in the above synth instead of NaOH) gives a similar product, and also gives users of this chemical that Potassium supplement that is by some said to be needed in connection with administration of GHB. It is not clear (for me at least) if it is the sodium intake or the GHB intake that gives the drop in plasma potassium levels. Better use a mixture of the two. Bear in mind that K-GHB is slightly less active (by weight) than Na-GHB as the K ion is heavier than the Na counterpart. Differences between K-GHB and Na-GHB is that the K salt is more soluble in water than the Na salt, and the taste is more like salt/licorice instead of the salt/soap taste of Na-GHB. In the book "Better Sex Through Chemistry" by John Morgenthaler it is pointed out that "[GHB] has a salty/licorice flavor" and it is obvious that the author tried the K salt. The purer the lactone used in the synthesis, the better the taste of the final product. LiOH or Mg(OH)2 could be dangerous to use, as would NH3 (formation of pyrrolidon). Ca(OH)2 *could* work, but I cannot find any point in using it.



---theres a much much much much easier way to do it without the need of the equipment.. you still need to know a little chemistry

http://shovelcat.com/ghb_info/recipe.html
 
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