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mr_cobra

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i got some gear a while back (2 20ml bottles of t200) and i've been taking 1cc a week for about the last 39weeks. obviously i've stopped gaining and my nuts are very disappointing right now (small/elevated) and the bottle has 1cc left. i intend to take .5 this week and .5 next week but then what do i need to cycle off? the guy i got it from said norovdex and clomid but that he can't get it. what should i really be taking and any suggestion on where to get it? -they're not illegal are they?
 
OMG !

For starters, I think you're trying to say Nolvadex. The fact that you hve spelt it so wrong in your post, suggests you're not sure of its pronunciation either. Which means your knowledge of PCT is quite frankly non-existent. All this and a 39 week cycle ? Frieghtening to say the least !

Bumping this one for your own sake. You need a more experienced man than me to help you outt this one. Good luck.
 
39 weeks? WTF? good luck getting ur nuts back within the next 3-4 months....

you need some serious PCT for that, and dont be surprised if you end up on HRT
 
You're doing so many things wrong I don't even know where to begin. You're shots are too far apart. You're tapering off your doses when they should remain even throughout. You no PCT meds a week before you cycle ends. You should have started HCG already and you should have used an aromatase inhibitor throughout your cycle and PCT. You're looking at a major crash. I suggest you go the AF Store right now and get AIFM so at least you've go an aromatase inhibitor for your PCT. Yes you should have clomid and there are a million and one places to get it.
 
mr_cobra said:
i got some gear a while back (2 20ml bottles of t200) and i've been taking 1cc a week for about the last 39weeks. obviously i've stopped gaining and my nuts are very disappointing right now (small/elevated) and the bottle has 1cc left. i intend to take .5 this week and .5 next week but then what do i need to cycle off? the guy i got it from said norovdex and clomid but that he can't get it. what should i really be taking and any suggestion on where to get it? -they're not illegal are they?

Editted because apparently I cant do simple multiplication anymore!

You need to get Nolvadex or clomid ASAP and you should get some AIFM from the AF store. You would be even smarter to get some pregnyl (HCG) You need to do a LOT of Research in a very verry very short time. YOu more than likely are gonna get flamed because you obviously have no knowledge of what you have been doing to your body. You are going to loose all your gains probably grow some bitch tits, may not get your natural testosterone production system fully back otherwise!!!
 
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mr_cobra said:
i got some gear a while back (2 20ml bottles of t200) and i've been taking 1cc a week for about the last 39weeks. obviously i've stopped gaining and my nuts are very disappointing right now (small/elevated) and the bottle has 1cc left. i intend to take .5 this week and .5 next week but then what do i need to cycle off? the guy i got it from said norovdex and clomid but that he can't get it. what should i really be taking and any suggestion on where to get it? -they're not illegal are they?



here man, you'd better order quick. Holy cow dude. ag-guyz.com liquinolva and liquiclom. I'd buy a shitload of both and due some serious reading. Your gonna need one helluva long post cycle therapy. Go plat and due some serious research before you really harm yourself.
 
CO B-man said:
your math has to be wrong. If you only had 2 20 ml bottles and you injected 1cc a week you could have only have cycled for 19 weeks if you have one cc left so what is the correct. You need to get Nolvadex or clomid ASAP and you should get some AIFM from the AF store. You would be even smarter to get some pregnyl (HCG) You need to do a LOT of Research in a very verry very short time. YOu more than likely are gonna get flamed because you obviously have no knowledge of what you have been doing to your body. You are going to loose all your gains probably grow some bitch tits, may not get your natural testosterone production system fully back otherwise!!!

jesus meng.... he is fucked up enough..

2 20 ml bottles= 40 ml or 40cc

1 cc week = 40 weeks

and the bottles were prob underfilled.... AND underdosed!
 
CO B-man said:
your math has to be wrong. If you only had 2 20 ml bottles and you injected 1cc a week you could have only have cycled for 19 weeks if you have one cc left so what is the correct. You need to get Nolvadex or clomid ASAP and you should get some AIFM from the AF store. You would be even smarter to get some pregnyl (HCG) You need to do a LOT of Research in a very verry very short time. YOu more than likely are gonna get flamed because you obviously have no knowledge of what you have been doing to your body. You are going to loose all your gains probably grow some bitch tits, may not get your natural testosterone production system fully back otherwise!!!


Hey Ben Stein. 2 x 20ml or cc = 40 cc or ml. 1 per week @ 39 weeks gives him 1 cc/ml left. Just bustin your balls LOL
 
cboogsrun said:
here man, you'd better order quick. Holy cow dude. ag-guyz.com liquinolva and liquiclom. I'd buy a shitload of both and due some serious reading. Your gonna need one helluva long post cycle therapy. Go plat and due some serious research before you really harm yourself.

okay i ordered the nolvadex and clomid. i've been reading about aifm - do i need that too or will these two suffice?

i know i've been doing it all wrong.. and hopefully the bottles were underfilled and underdosed so i have less reprocusions. i didn't do any research i just took this one guys advice - who obviously didn't do research either but claimed to know it all. all these replies have me pretty worried so i'll give a little more info about myself to maybe help you help me. :worried:
i'm 6'1", 175lbs, 7% bodyfat, 23 yrs old, my workout goals are to stay lean and gain moderate size, i do atleast an hour of cardio 5 days a week, i eat a lot! (also have an extremely high metabolism), and i hit the gym 6 days a week. i don't have any glypos or side effects that i've noticed - except for increased depression and slight roidrage (but it's very moderate).

i know you hate newbies and sadly i can't disguise myself as anything else. i want to take care of my body and will certainly do a lot of research before beinging another cycle. i just need to do something quick - like this week - so i can start recovery. hopefully someone very knowledgeable can give me some specific instructions :)
 
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cboogsrun said:
Hey Ben Stein. 2 x 20ml or cc = 40 cc or ml. 1 per week @ 39 weeks gives him 1 cc/ml left. Just bustin your balls LOL

did u read my post i made over an hour before you said that? lol in such a hurry to prove someone wrong... and got urself owned
:evil:
 
Ha ha my math is fu%cked up nevermind! Put a fork in me! I still had he should have done twice a week. I think I will stick to my calculator for even simple 2+2 from now on! What an idiot and believe it or not I am an Engineer. Of course that would not surprise many!
 
mr_cobra said:
okay i ordered the nolvadex and clomid. i've been reading about aifm - do i need that too or will these two suffice?

i know i've been doing it all wrong.. and hopefully the bottles were underfilled and underdosed so i have less reprocusions. i didn't do any research i just took this one guys advice - who obviously didn't do research either but claimed to know it all. all these replies have me pretty worried so i'll give a little more info about myself to maybe help you help me. :worried:
i'm 6'1", 175lbs, 7% bodyfat, 23 yrs old, my workout goals are to stay lean and gain moderate size, i do atleast an hour of cardio 5 days a week, i eat a lot! (also have an extremely high metabolism), and i hit the gym 6 days a week. i don't have any glypos or side effects that i've noticed - except for increased depression and slight roidrage (but it's very moderate).

i know you hate newbies and sadly i can't disguise myself as anything else. i want to take care of my body and will certainly do a lot of research before beinging another cycle. i just need to do something quick - like this week - so i can start recovery. hopefully someone very knowledgeable can give me some specific instructions :)

Depression increase? You should have had a better mood. I think your estrogen levels are screwy. Go to the anafit store under Ulters post and order some AIFM may want some liquidex. your nipples are not puffy and sore are they? Dude nobody hates newbies we hate seeing someone do it wrong. You can hurt yourself if you think you can just stick a needle in your body and gain muscle. I should not have as hard on you with the bomb. You should have injected at least two times a week I assume you had either testosterone enanthate or cypionate. some types you inject more frequently depends on the types. You would have probably seen only small to no gains with that low a dose. Most of your gains is water since you used no AI to help minimize that.
 
CO B-man said:
Depression increase? You should have had a better mood. I think your estrogen levels are screwy. Go to the anafit store under Ulters post and order some AIFM may want some liquidex. your nipples are not puffy and sore are they? Dude nobody hates newbies we hate seeing someone do it wrong. You can hurt yourself if you think you can just stick a needle in your body and gain muscle. I should not have as hard on you with the bomb. You should have injected at least two times a week I assume you had either testosterone enanthate or cypionate. some types you inject more frequently depends on the types. You would have probably seen only small to no gains with that low a dose. Most of your gains is water since you used no AI to help minimize that.

no nipple puffiness or soreness. i agree about my estrigen levels. do i take aifm as well as the novadex and clomid? or just the aifm enough pct?
 
mr_cobra said:
no nipple puffiness or soreness. i agree about my estrigen levels. do i take aifm as well as the novadex and clomid? or just the aifm enough pct?

Bump for ya.
 
mr_cobra said:
no nipple puffiness or soreness. i agree about my estrigen levels. do i take aifm as well as the novadex and clomid? or just the aifm enough pct?

Yes take AIFM with Nolvadex or clomid you probably do not need both. No AIFM is there to inhibit aromatization. Clomid &/or Nolvadex are used to stimulate your natural production of testosterone. Just a second I will PM you an entire article on PCT I found and thought was very good. Its huge but worth reading
 
man count yourlelf lucky you still have balls and don't wear a bra. lol. but seriously, read b-man's pct info and never ever listen to that friend again...and maybe even go knock his ignorant ass out.
 
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