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How often do you Max Out?

So with WSB you go all out with your 1rm once a week on the big moves. How can that not lead to overtraing?
 
almost never
 
on squat/deadlift/bench very rarely, on other exercises quite often
 
at max. once every two months. Sometimes I forget though.

It can be fun though. But doing it often will probably be discouraging because it's not likely to go up that quickly.
 
The thing about the WSB maxes is they are never the same exercises week after week, this allows you to maximally stress different muscle groups but more importantly the neurological aspect is completely different thus not wearing out the CNS. To answer your question about how it is not overtraining
 
bigguns15 said:
I max about 3-4 times per year, only at competitions. My goal is peak performance at a meet, not in a gym.
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Exactly. I only max out a full lift in a comp.
 
it doesnt lead to overtraining, the key is to change what you max out on every week. one week i do a squat VARIATION, the next week i may do some type of good morning, and the next week i may do some type of deadlift. i never max out on the same exercise to times in a row. its when you max out of the same thing 3 or more weeks in a row that your cns gets fried.
 
Liftbig said:
it doesnt lead to overtraining, the key is to change what you max out on every week. one week i do a squat VARIATION, the next week i may do some type of good morning, and the next week i may do some type of deadlift. i never max out on the same exercise to times in a row. its when you max out of the same thing 3 or more weeks in a row that your cns gets fried.
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Most of what you do is partial too. I mean, how often does Lou hae you max out a FULL ROM, comp squat? Never?
 
Liftbig said:
it doesnt lead to overtraining, the key is to change what you max out on every week. one week i do a squat VARIATION, the next week i may do some type of good morning, and the next week i may do some type of deadlift. i never max out on the same exercise to times in a row. its when you max out of the same thing 3 or more weeks in a row that your cns gets fried.
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OK, how does your CNS know the differance in the lifts if your still using the same muscle groups? Sorry but I never understood this CNS overtraing stuff.
 
competition stuff i only do at the meet. unless im taking a weight in my shirt. and yes alot of the stuff i do is partials, especcialy on bench.
 
Jordaz said:


OK, how does your CNS know the differance in the lifts if your still using the same muscle groups? Sorry but I never understood this CNS overtraing stuff.
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Not to change the subject of this thread, but I can see where you are headed with this.
 
It has something to do with the nerves firing in different patterns...oh damn, why can't I ever find these studies when I need to??? lol I'll keep searching. I should just save them to my favs when I find them, for future use. :D
 
just learn it, love it, and use it my freind. i suggest you read as many articles as you can from louie simmons.
 
It's a lot to ask someone to just believe what you're saying, and as much science as their is behind the way we train, there's really no reason to not present it.


Now back to my search... :mad:


lol
 
spatts said:
It's a lot to ask someone to just believe what you're saying, and as much science as their is behind the way we train, there's really no reason to not present it.


Now back to my search... :mad:


lol
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Cause who's Louie Simmons? :D
 
pwr_machine said:
Cause who's Louie Simmons? :D
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Why, I oughta....!!!!
 
Maybe if we fight judo style for a while, then like Bushidokan, then Tae Kwon Do for a while, we can trick our CNS into not overtraining. :idea:
 
Sorry ,I just dont see how your CNS knows the differance from a borad press, floor press, bench press, 3,2 board press...I'm just trying to fiqure out why I over trian so easy and get some type of PL training to increase my numbers.
 
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Jordaz said:
Still no explanation? I thought this board was to help people? I see pwr_machine making fun of my question, yet he has no awnser?
Sorry ,I just dont see how your CNS knows the differance from a borad press, floor press, bench press, 3,2 board press...I'm just trying to fiqure out why I over trian so easy and get some type of PL training to increase my numbers.
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I apologize. I had no intentions of making fun of your question. I have no answer. I have no answer because that whole idea is hard for me to grasp. I believe there are other feedback mechanisms that prevent us from overtraining our CNS. Those were touched on in another thread.
 
No problem, I thought you were razzing me:) I would like to know? You have the link to the other thread? So you dont follow WSB?
 
My thoughts:
Cl- ions have more negative potential than the resting neuronal membrane. When the Cl- channels open, allowing the ions to move inside, that will make the membrane potential more negative than normal. Opening the K+ channels will allow those ions to pass to the outside which will also make the membrane potential more negative than usual. The degree of intracellular negativity increases and is called hyperpolarization. This inhibits the neuron because the membrane potential in now further away than ever from the threshold for excitation.

When excitatory synapses are repetitively stimulated at a rapid rate, the number of discharges by the postsynaptic neuron is at first very great, but it becomes progressively less in succeeding milliseconds or seconds. This is called fatigue of synaptic transmission.

The motor unit is a motor neuron and all the muscle fibers it innervates. If the action potential doesn't reach a specific mV threshold, then it doesn't innervate the muscle fiber. I don't think that's due to fatigue, but due to other mechanisms such as the actions of the Cl- and K+ channels that I mentioned earlier that keep it from happening.
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Jordaz said:
Still no explanation? I thought this board was to help people? Sorry ,I just dont see how your CNS knows the differance from a borad press, floor press, bench press, 3,2 board press...I'm just trying to fiqure out why I over trian so easy and get some type of PL training to increase my numbers.
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I'm with you on this one. I believe your nervous will fire the same from exercise to exercise. However, is it sometimes inhibited by the actions of Cl- and K+? If it's inhibition, then it's not necessarily strict CNS fatigue or overtraining. It's a feedback mechanism. Just my opinion.
 
She would be delighted. Our powerlifting training methods have been around for 25+ years. However, they evolve as each meet passes and new training ideas are introduced. I could name 100+ lifters that have had success on a very similar program. Many of these lifters compete at the national and world level consistently.
 
How does your CNS know if you're squatting or deadlifting? How does your nervous system know if you're catching a ball or throwing it? How does your nervous system know if you're drinking iced tea or vinegar? How does your nervous system know the difference between a massage and a beating? Warmth and cold?





















It's magic!
:D
 
makedah said:
How does your CNS know if you're squatting or deadlifting? How does your nervous system know if you're catching a ball or throwing it? How does your nervous system know if you're drinking iced tea or vinegar? How does your nervous system know the difference between a massage and a beating? Warmth and cold?





















It's magic!
:D
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Thats enough from the peanut gallery!:p
 
Jordaz said:


any reason why?
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Because I'm a bodybuilder so single maxes arent important. When I do try them, my maxes arent as high as they could be as I'm not used to doing them, but I can still hold me own, ie, I've pulled over 600 raw on the deadlift just to see if I could
 
I haven't done a max lift since I was playing football in high school. Thats been 5 years ago. Maybe I'll test them in a few weeks to see how strong I am (1rm-wise) compared to when I was in school. I still remember all my max lifts from 5 years ago. :D
 
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