How often are your posts deleted?

[BackDoc]

I do not know if this post will be allowed to exist, however, I appeal to board administrators to let non-moderators use this thread to voice how they feel regarding those who have allowed personal feelings rather than sound, rational reason to silence others. I also appeal to moderators to allow this thread to remain.

I have recently come to know exactly how some of you feel who have had posts deleted. A certain moderator who claims to champion freedom and allowing everyone's voice to be heard recently crossed the line and deleted my opinion that he did not agree with. I am absolutely convinced that much of the liberal agenda is, in fact, socialist/ communist based. I am not looking for an explanation nor to discuss this matter. Rather I would like to find out how everyone feels when their non-threatening, non-slandering, non-profane posts are deleted. However, I would urge the board administrators to maintain the caliber of this board by allowing ALL voices to be heard that do not violate the board rules. When censorship occurs simply out of disagreement with opinion then the board quality will diminish.

When I was a moderator, I made it a point to not delete messages unless they were in violation of the board rules. Granted, I was a mod only on the life extension board, and did not have many posts to work with, but the principle was the same: free speech must exist unless it infringes on someone else's rights or violates board rules. I am rightfully no longer a moderator due to the fact that I did not visit the board as frequently as I should have due to circumstances beyond my control. Anyway, I have returned to the board to spend my time and efforts in spite of my fall from grace because it is one of the last bastions of free speech existing on the internet, regardless of how I may agree or disagree with what is often posted here.

What's your stance on those who have edited your right to free speech? Share your experiences here.

 

[WODIN]

If a post is edited or deleted from a serious topic because of simple disagrement then I do agree with your stand.

I did delete a triedia bashing thread today. Why even start that type of stupidity is my opinion and it has no place on any board.


It seems that it's getting to the point where people do not exercise common sense or courtisy anymore. Even in a chat forum this is something we should all still aspire to incorporate.

So with that note, anyone posting molestation, pedophilia or scat topics, or pics I will personally delete them. See it's really sad that I even have to say this. Shows a lot of peoples parents have really failed and then the people let that failure continue on in themselves.

 

[BackDoc]

I completely agree. It is a common sense issue as well. Some people will use freedom of speech as an umbrella to post filth. 99% of the board post valid opinions that I for one would like to read--sometimes there is very strong profanity--but the underlying opinion remains the same. If the pictures that you describe had appeared on the board where I used to be, I would have done exactly the same and deleted them. Deleting the post about triedia is probably a good idea since it would pretty much only contribute to discord and arguments between websites.

 

[MrMuscle]

i've had 1 post edited and 1 post deleted since i started posting here..and thats a couple of years ago. So if you post things that are not fucked up, you dont get edited. But if you absolutely have to write fucked up shit, the prepeare to take the condequences.

 

[2 ton hoss]

THERE IS NO RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH ON A PRIVATELY OWNED BULLETIN BOARD.

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, YOU CRETIN.

THEY CAN EDIT AND DELETE WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT. YOU ARE FREE TO MOVE ALONG IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

GAWD DAMN. PISSES ME OFF "OH! OH! YOU VIOLATED MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH" YEAH, AND WOULD YOU CLAIM THE SAME THING IF THE NEWSPAPER WOULDN'T PRINT YOUR EDITORIAL?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

 

[MrMuscle]

also, people that yell should be raped by a rhino

 

[BackDoc]

THERE IS NO RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH ON A PRIVATELY OWNED BULLETIN BOARD.

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, YOU CRETIN.

THEY CAN EDIT AND DELETE WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT. YOU ARE FREE TO MOVE ALONG IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

GAWD DAMN. PISSES ME OFF "OH! OH! YOU VIOLATED MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH" YEAH, AND WOULD YOU CLAIM THE SAME THING IF THE NEWSPAPER WOULDN'T PRINT YOUR EDITORIAL?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

It wasn't always this way on this board. When I joined this board it was much less restricted in terms of posts being deleted. Now we have a moderator who is taking liberty at deleting anything they don't happen to like or agree with. These are NOT the actions of the administrators, these are the actions of individuals who also happen to belong to the board just like you and I do. The administrators set up the board but there are people who do not have the board's best interest in mind making executive decisions. Big difference.

It may piss you off that you don't want to hear how this restriction has irritated someone. When it happens to you then you can accept it or move on as you so eloquently put it. However, you can stew in your anger, but don't expect others to do the same. I've been here far longer than you have and I've seen pretty much the gamut in terms of what goes on here...much of it from a moderator's perspective that you will likely never see.

An editorial is a different matter entirely as they reserve the right. A message board is quite another as people are encouraged to post as they see fit within the confines of the message board rules. If said actions of a moderator are to be encouraged, then there should be a disclaimer that posts may be deleted by moderators for any reason without any recourse (I don't know, maybe there already is).

Remember you have free speech to namecall all you want, and that is a real freedom in terms of not being face to face. So the very things that piss you off about my post are the very freedoms you enjoy.

 

[2 ton hoss]

THERE IS NO PROBLEM IN TRYING TO CHANGE A BOARD'S MODERATION, IF YOU ENJOY THE BOARD AND THE PEOPLE ON IT. THAT IS COMMENDABLE, IF THE MODERATION IS LOUSY. I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT IS OR NOT. I AM JUST ARGUING AGAINST YOUR CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH ON A PRIVATE BULLETIN BOARD.

YOU DO NOT. NOT BY ANY MEANS. NO MORE THAN YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH IN MY HOUSE, ON MY NETWORK, OR ON MY AIRWAVES.

An editorial is a different matter entirely as they reserve the right. A message board is quite another as people are encouraged to post as they see fit within the confines of the message board rules.

NO. YOU ARE WRONG. 100% DEAD WRONG. THE BOARD IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THE NEWSPAPER IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THE NEWSPAPER CAN CENSOR YOU AT THEIR WHIM. THE OWNER OF THE BOARD CAN CENSOR YOU AT HIS WHIM.

THANKS FOR TRYING THOUGH. YOU PUT UP A VALIANT EFFORT.

 

[Julez]

In over 5 years I have never had any posts deleted or edited, had one post moved and it was moved back damn quick.

I have only ever edited 2 posts, and never deleted any.

What is it with the mod bashing the past few days

 

[BackDoc]

THERE IS NO PROBLEM IN TRYING TO CHANGE A BOARD'S MODERATION, IF YOU ENJOY THE BOARD AND THE PEOPLE ON IT. THAT IS COMMENDABLE, IF THE MODERATION IS LOUSY. I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT IS OR NOT. I AM JUST ARGUING AGAINST YOUR CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH ON A PRIVATE BULLETIN BOARD.

Like it or not I agree with you that free speech is neither a reality nor the rule, whether it be on most message boards or as an editorial, as I am learning all too well. Free speech does not exist for the most part in the world outside of message boards either. I stand behind the notion that this board is one of the last few places where one can voice their opinion no matter how unpopular, and I would like to see it remain that way. Keep in mind that it is not absolute free speech that I am striving for...as I am against anyone NOT abiding by the rules of the forum AS SET FORTH BY THE ADMINISTRATORS. I hate to see it change because of 1 person wanting it so and having the ability to do so. If it continues to happen it will turn into a private message board populated only by those who think alike or are unable to post what they really think. As much as I might like to think that we all should have free speech, I agree with you that this is a freedom that is fast going the way of the carrier pigeon. My opening this thread is exactly for the reasons that you mentioned: I am wanting better moderation. So we have no argument there.

NO MORE THAN YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH IN MY HOUSE, ON MY NETWORK, OR ON MY AIRWAVES.

No argument there either. But to clarify, technically speaking, one's house does not have a delay, and free speech can take place there by anyone since it cannot be edited before it takes place. However, you and I both have the option in our own houses to exercise whatever action IN RESPONSE to those exercising their right to free speech. So in that sense, free speech can be positively or negatively reinforced. There is a difference, but maybe I'm being argumentative or getting too much into semantics.

NO. YOU ARE WRONG. 100% DEAD WRONG. THE BOARD IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THE NEWSPAPER IS PRIVATELY OWNED. THE NEWSPAPER CAN CENSOR YOU AT THEIR WHIM. THE OWNER OF THE BOARD CAN CENSOR YOU AT HIS WHIM.

I completely agree that "the owner of the board can censor at his whim." However, unless this 1 moderator is the owner of the board, then he is not the one who should be doing the censoring at his discretion when there are differences of opinion within and following the context of the rules. Allowed to do so, they are not working in the best interests of the masses.

A newspaper is hardly a bastion of free speech. Very seldom does a newspaper allow the general public to voice their opinions, unless doing so in the context of the aim of the editorial. If they do, it is not in real time and there is generally no allowance for replies in an ongoing issue. And they are free to do as they wish without recourse. With an editorial there is generally an agenda. Is there one here?

You see, we can all have our right to opinions. Now if someone had deleted or changed your responses wouldn't it have made you mad? I'm surprised this thread has not been deleted already, but I glad it remains.

THANKS FOR TRYING THOUGH. YOU PUT UP A VALIANT EFFORT.

Well, try I have, but quit I will not...I'm trying to make sure that I'm the last loyal and rule-abiding member to be censored. I am not trying to win against you; I have no beef with you siding your thoughts or opinions...I am even arguing for your freedom to say what you like though it is on the other side of the debate.

This was my point entirely.

 

[BackDoc]

In over 5 years I have never had any posts deleted or edited, had one post moved and it was moved back damn quick.

I have only ever edited 2 posts, and never deleted any.

What is it with the mod bashing the past few days

To clarify, I am certainly not bashing mods, as I was a mod in the not too distant past. I am arguing that 1 mod who deleted my post because it presented an argument that negated his did so in preservation of his side of the argument. I've never taken issue with any mods who have done exceptional work given the tide of favor against them at times.

I admire the work the rest of the mods as they have really weathered the storm since the new ones were first introduced. This was the first post of mine since joining the board that has been edited or deleted.

I respect the mods as much hatred is usually given them undeservingly. However, in this one case with this one mod I am of the belief that he has acted with poor judgement.