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How much VITEX to lower prolactin levels?
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RdStrcklnd
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macrophage69alpha
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panerai said:
it was not an answer to the original but a caveat to the implication that prolactin induced gyno was an extreme rarity.
issue RE: prolactin and tren is not clear as the amount of info is VERY limited and there is considerable evidence of progesterone/progestin influencing prolactin... (i will pull up a couple of the studies whne I have some time)
macrophage69alpha
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btw- the prolactin issue may be soemwhat a red herring HERE( or a least a less important issue), but the benefits of vitex are also in its ability to restore NORMAL progesterone levels (offsetting suppresion and PR binding of Tren)
Well, prolactine induced gyno is extremely rare, due to use of steroids. GHB is not a steroid, right?
That's why, I brought the analogy with Finasteride.
To make it even more clear, when you said, that prolactin induced gyno is more common then reported...well, sorry, but it doesn't make any sence. Our main source of information, is what's reported. Speculation is not fair, I can say anything also...
I have yet to see a study that shows increase of prolactin level due to trenbolone. On a contrary, there's a study, that shows no effect of trenbolone on prolactine level in male cows(lol, don't know the proper name, bulls, may be?)
Now, be logical, in healthy males, like us, it should take some tremendous amount or effect of something, like Trenbolone or any other steroid (Trenbolone is just a steroid mimiking Testosteron, basically) to increase prolactine level to such a degree when gyno might devellope.
Be serious...
That's why, I brought the analogy with Finasteride.
To make it even more clear, when you said, that prolactin induced gyno is more common then reported...well, sorry, but it doesn't make any sence. Our main source of information, is what's reported. Speculation is not fair, I can say anything also...
I have yet to see a study that shows increase of prolactin level due to trenbolone. On a contrary, there's a study, that shows no effect of trenbolone on prolactine level in male cows(lol, don't know the proper name, bulls, may be?)
Now, be logical, in healthy males, like us, it should take some tremendous amount or effect of something, like Trenbolone or any other steroid (Trenbolone is just a steroid mimiking Testosteron, basically) to increase prolactine level to such a degree when gyno might devellope.
Be serious...
Speaking of "trend"...on first page we have at least 4 threads about prolactin. Over the years on the boards, I've heard of only one guy who got gyno from high prolactin level "Fukkenshredded", and even that is not a fact, because he associated the return of gyno symptoms to Fina only cycle, which shows how unaccurate our assumptions are.
The experiment is very simple. Let's make someone who's after long time off is doing Fina only cycle do blood test. Prolactin level will shows.
The experiment is very simple. Let's make someone who's after long time off is doing Fina only cycle do blood test. Prolactin level will shows.
macrophage69alpha
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actually there are a number of people that have gotten gyno from GHB-- the reason that I said that it was under reported(here) is because a great number of those who use ghb for recreational purposes are not bodybuilders or on the net for that matter.
and RE: tren and prolactin.. that is the issue.. ONE study in cows, which may or may not translate to humans.. but the issue is ONE study.. where there are a number of studies showing a strong relationship between prolactin and progesterone/progestins.
but agree that it MAY not be prolactin that is the issue with tren, but that vitex MAY help due to its ability to restore natural progesterone.
and RE: tren and prolactin.. that is the issue.. ONE study in cows, which may or may not translate to humans.. but the issue is ONE study.. where there are a number of studies showing a strong relationship between prolactin and progesterone/progestins.
but agree that it MAY not be prolactin that is the issue with tren, but that vitex MAY help due to its ability to restore natural progesterone.
macrophage69alpha
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btw- in the case of tren the implications, at least on my part, were that prolactin increase might aggravate the symptoms but that the source was PR related.
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