How much suppression?

[njmuscleguy]

Hey folks...

I'm about to start PCT... the cycle I just finished was:
Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Wks 1-10 Test Prop 100mg ED
Wks 1-10 NPP 100mg EOD
Proviron 100mg ED
AIFM ED

My history with PCT has been pretty grim.... I've started HCG during my last 10 days of the cycle (500iu ED) then I'm hopping onto Clomid at 50mg ED and continuing AIFM.

I'm considering continuing the Proviron and even doing the morning dbol method (10mg every morning)....was even contemplating IGF for 30 days...I'm wondering if I should be concerned with any significant suppression from running BOTH proviron and dbol during PCT? There is huge debate on whether either of those will be suppressive during PCT, I'm wondering if running both will be bad.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

 

[AhMadKooL]

Hey folks...

I'm about to start PCT... the cycle I just finished was:
Wks 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Wks 1-10 Test Prop 100mg ED
Wks 1-10 NPP 100mg EOD
Proviron 100mg ED
AIFM ED

My history with PCT has been pretty grim.... I've started HCG during my last 10 days of the cycle (500iu ED) then I'm hopping onto Clomid at 50mg ED and continuing AIFM.

I'm considering continuing the Proviron and even doing the morning dbol method (10mg every morning)....was even contemplating IGF for 30 days...I'm wondering if I should be concerned with any significant suppression from running BOTH proviron and dbol during PCT? There is huge debate on whether either of those will be suppressive during PCT, I'm wondering if running both will be bad.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Proviron is suppresive:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catprov.htm

It says:
"Unlike what some suggest or believe, its not advised that Proviron be used when not used in conjunction with another steroid, as it too is quite suppressive of natural testosterone, leading to all sorts of future complications upon discontinuation. Ranging from loss of libido or erectile dysfunction all the way up to infertility. One would not be aware of such dangers because Proviron fulfills most of the functions of normal levels of testosterone."

 

[njmuscleguy]

Yah, I've seen that before.... but for every "authoritative" article that says yes, it is suppressive, there is one that says no, it isn't....

I guess personal experience is the best way to judge (especially with bloodwork results)

 

[nydj66]

I've always had an awful time with recovery and just recently found out I have low testosterone production (likely the reason my recoveries sucked).

But, the best recovery I ever had was while using proviron during PCT. I didn't experience a crash after I stopped the proviron so I must conclude that it wasn't suppressive to me.

 

[acneman]

considering youve had pct problems in the past
i would run the hcg for another 10 days after last injection and then start clomid and continue aifm for 3 or even 4 weeks and monitor for low test sides

if i detected low test sides i would start pct over again with 10 days of hcg followed by clomid and continuing aifm

thats how i would handle it if it was my body