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How much of your first cycle gains did you keep?
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immortalis
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I was 195 pounds when I started my first. I peaked at 218, and level'd off at 210 where I stayed for the remainder of my college career.
I had no idea what PCT was at the time, so I didnt do any. I just maintained the same workout and eatting regimine that i had been on.
I had no idea what PCT was at the time, so I didnt do any. I just maintained the same workout and eatting regimine that i had been on.
karachi183
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In terms of actual weight gained and lost not sure. But gained size and kept it all. Also gained a little unwanted abdominal fat but that comes with the territory. dbol 4 weeks!
tryionlannister
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I gained 36 but kept 20.
Bulldog333
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Beastdrol 20/30/30/30
Pct
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Unleashed/post
Gained 23 and kept 17 also retained about 75% of my strength. I had to tighten up on my diet post cycle. Being "on" allowed me to cheat a lot more than normal
Pct
Forma
Unleashed/post
Gained 23 and kept 17 also retained about 75% of my strength. I had to tighten up on my diet post cycle. Being "on" allowed me to cheat a lot more than normal
Krazie Apparel
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Gained 25 kept 15. Didnt know about oct then just used adex during. I never had sides either. I now hover around 202-208 naturally was 185 before cycle
hmm think i gained 12kg and lost about 2-3kg, strength went down alittle foreksampel 5kgs on benchpress.. But after pct was done i easly took those 5kgs on the bench again
All in all, ive done 2cycles and i am lifting the same as when i quitted the cycle in most exercises.. Deadlift,Squat,Benchpress,Dips,Pullups,Biceps ect.
The thing that i lost after my cycles was the look, the swolen look of just being giant.. All though my messurements are all most the same now the "look" is now only there when i am pumped up? maybe its due to higher blood pressure while cycleing i dunno
All in all, ive done 2cycles and i am lifting the same as when i quitted the cycle in most exercises.. Deadlift,Squat,Benchpress,Dips,Pullups,Biceps ect.
The thing that i lost after my cycles was the look, the swolen look of just being giant.. All though my messurements are all most the same now the "look" is now only there when i am pumped up? maybe its due to higher blood pressure while cycleing i dunno
GreenBastard
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see this is one of those big fat questions in which the only real answer is, IT DEPENDS! every person is different. many of the specific types and sources and labs in terms of each drug are different. every pct is a little different. in general, if your committed and you really want to keep your gains, if the work ethic is there then yes you will keep almost all your muscle gains with some leaner bulk/cutting cycles, this cant be said for heavy bulking cycles where you pile on 15+lbs of water and fat. I know lots of guys who run light var cycles and gain 6 or 7lbs at a time and put a couple dozen pounds on their big 3 lifts and they keep 90% of that, same goes with guys who do test cycles with proper pct.
personally, i find the best way to hold onto my gains is to keep the diet and supplement intake high while tapering off the gear, then adding pct drugs (im always trying different stuff) as i start to taper off, increasing the dose of the nolva, clomid, arimidex or whatever it may be for usualy half of the total cycle duration after cesation. (12 week cycle =6 week pct) then i usually take a few months off. now, with hard training, even if you loose some of your gains post cycle, give it a couple months and you will back up pretty close to where u were on cycle (depending on the cycle of course) in terms of strength, ive done this often, and have alotta buddies who also go natty for months at a time and still make good gains. old school juicers often point out that this is a good sign that your natural test production is still going and working properly too (at least when it comes to training that is)
personally, i find the best way to hold onto my gains is to keep the diet and supplement intake high while tapering off the gear, then adding pct drugs (im always trying different stuff) as i start to taper off, increasing the dose of the nolva, clomid, arimidex or whatever it may be for usualy half of the total cycle duration after cesation. (12 week cycle =6 week pct) then i usually take a few months off. now, with hard training, even if you loose some of your gains post cycle, give it a couple months and you will back up pretty close to where u were on cycle (depending on the cycle of course) in terms of strength, ive done this often, and have alotta buddies who also go natty for months at a time and still make good gains. old school juicers often point out that this is a good sign that your natural test production is still going and working properly too (at least when it comes to training that is)
thedarkhalf
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Keeping gains is easier than you think. Calculate your new caloric maintenance for your new body weight when coming off cycle. Eat at maintenance and the gains will stay.
